Milk: Good for you or not?

Page 2 - Seeking answers? Join the AnandTech community: where nearly half-a-million members share solutions and discuss the latest tech.

torpid

Lifer
Sep 14, 2003
11,631
11
76
Originally posted by: nakedfrog
Originally posted by: cjchaps
I see the NDC has gotten to most of you sheep. Cow Juice is unnatural for humans to drink. It also explains the rise of cancer, obesity, and heart disease in this country. It's better to get your calcium from veggies than milk. Ice cream tastes good.

<puts on flame suit and runs away>

http://www.notmilk.com/

Yes, WE'RE the sheep... certainly not someone who ascribes the rise of cancer, obesity, and heart disease to a single factor. I mean, humans have only been drinking milk for what, hundreds upon hundreds of years?

To be fair, the milk our ancestors drank probably was a lot better tasting and free of some of the weird crap we put into cows these days. I kind of envy them for their milk... the local unhomogenized, low scc milk I've tried here is incredibly delicious.
 

Soundmanred

Lifer
Oct 26, 2006
10,780
6
81
Originally posted by: Ns1
Originally posted by: FoBoT
in moderation, milk is fine and good

unless you are lactose intolerant, then it messes with your p00p or something

i am lactose intolerant, and it sucks ass.

Same here. I always thought it was the sugary cereal that made me sick, but I was wrong... :(
Can't eat too much ice cream, etc. Very sad.
 

Saint Michael

Golden Member
Aug 4, 2007
1,877
1
0
Originally posted by: Soundmanred
Originally posted by: Ns1
Originally posted by: FoBoT
in moderation, milk is fine and good

unless you are lactose intolerant, then it messes with your p00p or something

i am lactose intolerant, and it sucks ass.

Same here. I always thought it was the sugary cereal that made me sick, but I was wrong... :(
Can't eat too much ice cream, etc. Very sad.

Get lactase pills.
 

nakedfrog

No Lifer
Apr 3, 2001
62,925
19,156
136
Originally posted by: torpid
Originally posted by: nakedfrog
Originally posted by: cjchaps
I see the NDC has gotten to most of you sheep. Cow Juice is unnatural for humans to drink. It also explains the rise of cancer, obesity, and heart disease in this country. It's better to get your calcium from veggies than milk. Ice cream tastes good.

<puts on flame suit and runs away>

http://www.notmilk.com/

Yes, WE'RE the sheep... certainly not someone who ascribes the rise of cancer, obesity, and heart disease to a single factor. I mean, humans have only been drinking milk for what, hundreds upon hundreds of years?

To be fair, the milk our ancestors drank probably was a lot better tasting and free of some of the weird crap we put into cows these days. I kind of envy them for their milk... the local unhomogenized, low scc milk I've tried here is incredibly delicious.

Yeah, I think it should be legal to sell milk like that, as long as the buyer is aware of the risks (and probably has to sign some stupid waiver preventing liability).
 

purbeast0

No Lifer
Sep 13, 2001
53,656
6,532
126
i drink 2-3 protein shakes a day mixed with milk, and probably like 1 or 2 cup by itself.
 

cjchaps

Diamond Member
Jul 24, 2000
3,013
1
81
Originally posted by: nakedfrog
Originally posted by: cjchaps
I see the NDC has gotten to most of you sheep. Cow Juice is unnatural for humans to drink. It also explains the rise of cancer, obesity, and heart disease in this country. It's better to get your calcium from veggies than milk. Ice cream tastes good.

<puts on flame suit and runs away>

http://www.notmilk.com/

Yes, WE'RE the sheep... certainly not someone who ascribes the rise of cancer, obesity, and heart disease to a single factor. I mean, humans have only been drinking milk for what, hundreds upon hundreds of years?

Google "The China Study"

In 1983 a joint British-Chinese-American study known as the "Study of Diet, Nutrition and Disease in the People's Republic of China" was begun for the purpose of studying the relationship between selenium and other nutrients and death rates from all forms of cancer. Because of its scope and the unique opportunity it offered, the study was expanded to examine many other health issues. It took exhaustive data--367 items per person were followed--on the lifestyle nutritional intake, and health status of 6,500 adults, half men, half women, spread throughout mainland China, over a six-year period. I want to emphasize that this was not an American-style survey in which "researchers" phoned a lot of people and asked them what they had for supper last night. It involved urine and blood analyses, extensive questionnaires, measurements of foods consumed, and detailed examination of a broad spectrum of data that would have been impossible before the age of computers.

Although it will be years before all the China study information is analyzed and available, the earliest reports have been shocking, although not unexpected by many. Dr. T. Colin Campbell of Cornell University, who directed the massive study, told Jane Brody in a New York Times interview (May 8, 1990) that the study affirms that "we're basically a vegetarian species and should be eating a wide variety of plant foods and minimizing our intake of animal foods." On the question of osteoporosis, Dr. Campbell said:

"Ironically, osteoporosis tends to occur in countries where calcium intake is highest and most of it comes from protein-rich dairy products. The Chinese data indicate that people need less calcium than we think and can get adequate amounts from vegetables."

Specifically, Dr. Campbell told the Times that the Chinese study found an average daily calcium intake of of 544 mg. in China, almost none of this from animal products, and "there was basically no osteoporosis in China." In the U. S., by contrast, where there is an average calcium intake of 1,143 mg per day, mostly from dairy products, "osteoporosis is a major public health problem."
 

torpid

Lifer
Sep 14, 2003
11,631
11
76
Ah good, no tin foil hat discussion is ever complete without referencing the china study.
 

cjchaps

Diamond Member
Jul 24, 2000
3,013
1
81
Originally posted by: torpid
Ah good, no tin foil hat discussion is ever complete without referencing the china study.

Ah good, no conspiracy discussion is ever complete without the anti-conspiratist!
 

Firebot

Golden Member
Jul 10, 2005
1,476
2
0
Research studies like that are so full of holes, that if you were to stack them up together, you would never be able to eat any food at all.
 

Miramonti

Lifer
Aug 26, 2000
28,653
100
106
<---------- has dairy allergies. :(

I can digest it but it makes me tired and sluggish.
 

Slew Foot

Lifer
Sep 22, 2005
12,379
96
86
Milk is perfectly fine unless you're drowning yourself in cream everyday, and youre not lactose intolerant.

I drink a glass a day myself and so far have zero medical problems at 32 years old (not to imply any relation between the two).
 

Special K

Diamond Member
Jun 18, 2000
7,098
0
76
My only complaint about milk is that the price of a gallon has skyrocketed over the past 1.5 years or so.
 

lyssword

Diamond Member
Dec 15, 2005
5,630
25
91
Originally posted by: Special K
My only complaint about milk is that the price of a gallon has skyrocketed over the past 1.5 years or so.

Yeah, poor college students like me noticed that :eek: It's good with cereal :)
 

gorcorps

aka Brandon
Jul 18, 2004
30,741
456
126
There's not that much calcium in milk... it's better to get it from somewhere else. But it has a lot of other stuff and I like it.
 

nakedfrog

No Lifer
Apr 3, 2001
62,925
19,156
136
Originally posted by: cjchaps


I'm supposed to believe that milk is basically Liquid Satan? on the basis of one study?
I don't buy that this guy doesn't have an agenda that he's pushing.
 

AbAbber2k

Diamond Member
Mar 1, 2005
6,474
1
0
The China Study has been shown on numerous accounts to be full of wholes. And www.notmilk.com is the biggest load of bullshit I've ever seen. Check out what they have to say about Casein... the prime protein found in cows milk. ZOMG :shocked: it's used to make GLUE THUS IT R BAD 4 U AND GIVES U ASTHMA!!1eleven.

Oh wait... I forgot to mention that human breast milk protein content is 40% CASEIN YOU FUCKING TOOL. I guess human breast milk is bad for babies. :roll:

*pours himself a tall glass of milk*

Ba-ah-ah :|
 

torpid

Lifer
Sep 14, 2003
11,631
11
76
Originally posted by: cjchaps
Originally posted by: torpid
Ah good, no tin foil hat discussion is ever complete without referencing the china study.

Ah good, no conspiracy discussion is ever complete without the anti-conspiratist!

True. We call them "the voice of reason". Usually they are completely ignored.
 

AbAbber2k

Diamond Member
Mar 1, 2005
6,474
1
0
Originally posted by: torpid
Originally posted by: cjchaps
Originally posted by: torpid
Ah good, no tin foil hat discussion is ever complete without referencing the china study.

Ah good, no conspiracy discussion is ever complete without the anti-conspiratist!

True. We call them "the voice of reason". Usually they are completely ignored.

:thumbsdown:

The correct response to this was actually "Ah good, no anti-conspiracy discussion is ever complete without the anti-conspiracy-conspirators conspiring against conspiracy discussion!"