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Military people get additional $750 off FORD VEHICLES.....

Too bad Ford only makes decent trucks and terrible cars.

Nice deal though, any other company doing something similar?
 
Hey there,

It's on the FORD commercials on TV or at least in my area. They did not designate a specific area,but
I believe I heard them say ALL FORD dealer ships.

Slade
 
Originally posted by: Oaf357
Too bad Ford only makes decent trucks and terrible cars.

Nice deal though, any other company doing something similar?

whats wrong with mustang
 
Mustang...

Other than it being overpriced and underpowered, nothing.

That and the fact I like my insurance.
 
I'm renting a Ford Escape right now and I like it very much (compared to my 93 Jeep Cherokee). I would consider buying one if I needed a new car (But I'm to type to drive a car until the wheels fall off).
 
It is a good deal. All the US car makers have done/are doing it. Additionally here in TN if you are stationed at the Navy base in Millington (Memphis) or at Ft. Campbell you don't pay state sales tax. (9.5%)
 
Originally posted by: Ultra Quiet
Additionally here in TN if you are stationed at the Navy base in Millington (Memphis) or at Ft. Campbell you don't pay state sales tax. (9.5%)
Wow! Now a deal like that is smoking hot!
 
Not sure about Ford, but with Chrysler if you're an immediate family member of an active or retired military person you are also eligible for the discount.
 
Originally posted by: Oaf357
Mustang...

Other than it being overpriced and underpowered, nothing.

That and the fact I like my insurance.
Yes Insurance is expensive but how is it overpriced. When I got mine a year ago I couldn't find a V6 190HP sports car with power everything, 6-cd changer MACH 460 (or equivalent), leather seats, ABS, traction control, 16" Rims under $22K out the door at .9% for 5 years (course it's better now) with Ford OEM alarm and 5 yr top level extended warranty.
Heck I couldn't even find a inline-4 Eclipse for that price.
It's one of the most inexpensive V6 sports cars out there, baring the Tiburon I think. And since I had a 95 Mustang previously with no problems, pretty darn reliable.

As for insurance, any V6 sports car with have higher premiums than most. If you can spare the extra dough and you want the Mustang spring for a convertible it has a lower premium than the coupe, at least with State Farm (something about most Vert mustangs being driven by women 25-40). It's also the cheapest V6 sports convertible (read that somewhere as to the reason for it popularity).

The Escapes are pretty good too. We also have one of those (it's a sibiling is the Mazda Tribute) and we love ours. Peppy V6 engine, doesn't bore me and I drive a stick. It's not too big but carries tons of stuff (ie. full sized assembled computer desk 50"Lx30"Wx30"H) especially with the back seat folded flat down. I find it much more comfortable than a CRV (never sat in a RAV4 so I can't compare), especially if you have to sit in the cargo space with another full grown adult (never try that in a CRV you'll hurt yourself like me, no cargo space).
 
Originally posted by: Mysterie
Originally posted by: Oaf357
Mustang...

Other than it being overpriced and underpowered, nothing.

That and the fact I like my insurance.
Yes Insurance is expensive but how is it overpriced. When I got mine a year ago I couldn't find a V6 190HP sports car with power everything, 6-cd changer MACH 460 (or equivalent), leather seats, ABS, traction control, 16" Rims under $22K out the door at .9% for 5 years (course it's better now) with Ford OEM alarm and 5 yr top level extended warranty.
Heck I couldn't even find a inline-4 Eclipse for that price.
It's one of the most inexpensive V6 sports cars out there, baring the Tiburon I think. And since I had a 95 Mustang previously with no problems, pretty darn reliable.

As for insurance, any V6 sports car with have higher premiums than most. If you can spare the extra dough and you want the Mustang spring for a convertible it has a lower premium than the coupe, at least with State Farm (something about most Vert mustangs being driven by women 25-40). It's also the cheapest V6 sports convertible (read that somewhere as to the reason for it popularity).

The Escapes are pretty good too. We also have one of those (it's a sibiling is the Mazda Tribute) and we love ours. Peppy V6 engine, doesn't bore me and I drive a stick. It's not too big but carries tons of stuff (ie. full sized assembled computer desk 50"Lx30"Wx30"H) especially with the back seat folded flat down. I find it much more comfortable than a CRV (never sat in a RAV4 so I can't compare), especially if you have to sit in the cargo space with another full grown adult (never try that in a CRV you'll hurt yourself like me, no cargo space).

190 HP... Come on man, my 1997 Toyota Camry V6 has 200 HP.

The Escape is a decent truck (I wish I would have bought it as opposed to a RAV-4 for the wife).
 
190 HP... Come on man, my 1997 Toyota Camry V6 has 200 HP.

The Escape is a decent truck (I wish I would have bought it as opposed to a RAV-4 for the wife).

I have heard many people complain over the years about the HP of Ford engines compared with other cars. (If you are interested in performance, you should be comparing torque as well. I'd be curious to see the torque comparison with the Camry. There is also a factor called "torque rise" that is important for hard acceleration. No matter, this is not the point of my post.)

Anyway, Ford has been forced to "de-tune" many of their engines to meet CAFE standards. Actually, all auto makers are forced to do this and have been for years. However, Ford is affected more than any other and I will tell you why. Each auto maker must meet an average fuel mileage standard for their vehicle lineup. This is a composite number derived from the volume of all models sold by a company. Basically, a company that makes a lot of large, inefficient vehicles has to make up for it somewhere. Cars like the Focus help bring up the average mileage. Also, a "de-tuned" engine is another way to bring the mileage up.

Why does this affect Ford the most? Simple. They make more Class 1, 2, and 3 trucks than anyone. They also make many full size vans and many SUV's. Therefore, they have to do whatever they can to save fuel mileage. The V-6 Mustang was a likely victim of that train of thought.

The nice thing about this is that you can spend a little on performance parts and reclaim the lost HP. (And the insurance company never knows!)
 
Originally posted by: vetteguy
Not sure about Ford, but with Chrysler if you're an immediate family member of an active or retired military person you are also eligible for the discount.

Do you have the details?


Does anyone know if Chevy or Toyota offer discounts? I would love a shiny Avalanche or Celica!

My '88 Camaro was saved from the salvage yard. It has a slightly bent frame, the passenger side door lock was ripped off, engine blown, broken passenger seatbelt and windshield wiper. I won't go into the body defects. I've had to rely on that mess for four years! ...obviously I prefer to carpool. As an E3 with 2 years of service, I make $1,450 a month - $870 after taxes!
 
Originally posted by: Amploud
I have heard many people complain over the years about the HP of Ford engines compared with other cars. (If you are interested in performance, you should be comparing torque as well. I'd be curious to see the torque comparison with the Camry. There is also a factor called "torque rise" that is important for hard acceleration. No matter, this is not the point of my post.)

Anyway, Ford has been forced to "de-tune" many of their engines to meet CAFE standards. Actually, all auto makers are forced to do this and have been for years. However, Ford is affected more than any other and I will tell you why. Each auto maker must meet an average fuel mileage standard for their vehicle lineup. This is a composite number derived from the volume of all models sold by a company. Basically, a company that makes a lot of large, inefficient vehicles has to make up for it somewhere. Cars like the Focus help bring up the average mileage. Also, a "de-tuned" engine is another way to bring the mileage up.

Why does this affect Ford the most? Simple. They make more Class 1, 2, and 3 trucks than anyone. They also make many full size vans and many SUV's. Therefore, they have to do whatever they can to save fuel mileage. The V-6 Mustang was a likely victim of that train of thought.

The nice thing about this is that you can spend a little on performance parts and reclaim the lost HP. (And the insurance company never knows!)
True, my 95 only had 145hp but with the amount of torque behind it's supposed was faster than the average Camry with the higher horsepower. I kinda think V6 Camry's used to have very little torque, my aunts always complained their car's didn't have the pick up of most vehicles especially accelerating, but I'm talking about pre-96. My aunt's 2002 Camry seems vastly improved as she complains about it less and I notice it accelerates faster. Also I always wondered with my newer 190HP Mustang I have less torque (probably sacraficed for more HP) but is it any faster than my older 95 Mustang with only 145HP but more torque.

Anyhow, Oaf357 you can't compare the Camry with the Mustang. Two different type of cars for different functions. One is a sport car/sports coupe, whatever. The other is supposed to be a family sedan (no matter how much tuners like to change that image). On my darkest moment I thought of getting an Accord but the automatic was too boring (course I thought the automatic Mustang was boring too and it was a pretty fast accelerator), I guess I'm a sport car person 😀 If you can find me other brand new V6 sports coupes similiarly equiped for a much lower price then you can say it's overpriced. Insurance is adjusted accordingly. You don't think the Insurance of any sports car is the same as a Camry right? BTW a V6 XLT Escape's insurance premuim should be lower or equivelant to the Camry, if you wanted to know (worked for an insurance company for a while and they are at the same rating or less).
 
Hey there,

A biggie for FORD.........I just bought a VUE for the MRS. here. The 0% fin. for 5yrs was very appealing and the
people at Saturn gave us a very nice deal on warranties. All we do for the next 9 yrs. Is oil changes and a few
general maintanence things here and there. I will say though the only thing I did not like about
Saturn was the frame, and transmission when it came to towing. The VUE can only tow 1500lbs. where as the
Escape can tow 3500lbs. Definately, something to thing about while being in the military :Q. If I could have gotten
a FORD escape for 0% for 5yrs. I would probrably be driving it.
BTW- I enjoyed driving both. Saturn handles like a small car, very nice. If you have questions about Saturn VUEs I am
all ears 🙂.

BTW2- Toyota Camrys are the #1 stolen cars in the USA...just something to think about. 🙁

Just my $0.02

Slade 😉
 
NEW Toyota Camrys are the most stolen car, yes. Not a 1997 Toyota Camry. When Accord was the best selling car it was the #1 most stolen car too. I see a trend here. Hmm...
 
I thought 1992 model was #1 stolen car? I saw the top 10 list for this year somewhere but I don't think there were any newer models (2000+) on the list. I think car makers made cars harder to steal.
 
#1-1989 Toyota Camry
#2-1991 Toyota Camry
#3-1990 Toyota Camry
#4-2000 Honda Civic Si
#5-1994 Honda Accord EX
#6-1994 Chevy C1500 4x2
#7-1995 Honda Accord EX
#8-1988 Toyota Camry
#9-1994 Honda Accord LX
#10-1996 Honda Accord LX
According to the June/July Issue of Mobile Entertainment I just got.
 
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