Military Ballots; must see

[Snoop]

Most of you have probably seen this but I was so pissed when I read it I thought it needed to be posted again.

All this time the democrats have been preaching "the voter must be heard" and "we cannot disenfranchise even 1 voter" well if that was true then why did one of AL GORE'S lawyers circulate this memo: FRIGGAN HYPOCRITES

 

[thebestMAX]

This surprises you?

 

[bigbootydaddy]

Can we talk bout other stuff already...i like loss all care for the election

 

[nd]

Yeah, obviously they're gonna have a double standard. They want every vote to count in the heavily democratic areas, and they want as few to count as possible coming from the military. This is understandable.

The fact that they're advocating ways to do this, fairly successfully (getting hand recounts in democratic areas, and being leniant in determining the voter's intent, while at the same time discounting thousands of military absentee ballots), disgusts me.

 

[Snoop]

Can some of the democrats on this board exlpain to me why this does not repulse them. I mean doesnt this FLY in the face of all the propaganda they have been feeding you? Do the democrats Support This?

 

[Tripleshot]

So what is the problem? It is a memo of what to look for in attesting the validity of a vote.Specify your hang up?

 

[Harvey]

Echo 3Shot. Beyond that, any paper used to print anything by Matt Drudge is no longer suitable to wrap dogsh8 or line a bird cage.

 

[Snoop]

Well my hang up is exactly what you said "Attesting a vote." It is what i call a double standard. The democrats want everyone to believe that the "intent" is all that is needed to affirm a vote, yet they circulate a letter with Specific info on how to CONTEST a vote

 

[Snoop]

Harvey, so you believe this document is false????

 

[Tripleshot]

Snoop,

Nothing in that memo suggests blocking a legal vote according to Florida and Federal law. You imply that Dems know what is inside a sealed envelope. Friggin ammazing! Get a life!

 

[Fathom5]

That memo was shown to Leiberman on MSNBC Sunday and all he could do stammer his way around any answer doing his best political softshoe to keep from looking foolish. He fits in well with the Clinton/Gore administration.

 

[BoberFett]

<< no longer suitable to wrap dogsh8 or line a bird cage. >>

Fortunately we still have your writings with which to accomplish these unenviable tasks.

 

[Snoop]

Tripleshot: OMG, HEHE, if you cannot see the intent of that memo their is no need for me to explain. What are you looking for an admission &quot;Throw out all votes you can, or gore will lose, the military votes for him, so these votes need to be discarded&quot;
LOL

 

[nd]

Tripleshot,

The memo is disguised to appear as a simple legal guide to counting the ballots. Read the commentary before the memo and see what they're really doing.

I cannot understand how you could possibly accept this as OK. How can you not see the motive? Do you think this was distributed for people hand counting in Dade/Palm Beach County? Do you think this memo would hold up in court? (hell no) There's a reason this memo had to be &quot;leaked&quot; in the first place.

A 5 year old could see the double standard here. And no, I'm not a Republican (or Democrat)

Edit: Please don't take offense the &quot;5 year old&quot; remark. I know you're not stupid. Just don't be so quick to defend &quot;your side&quot; always, and I'll be happy

 

[kranky]

This has been reported in the mainstream media, and let's not dismiss it out of hand because Drudge also reported it.

I would have assumed the election commission would have disqualified absentee ballots from people who voted twice, the ones whose signatures didn't match, etc., without being prompted. What is distasteful is that those who would count dimpled/pregnant chad and plead about disenfranchisement (like snoop said) would turn around and claim the letter of the law to disqualify votes. Regardless of what side you're on, you can't defend both positions at the same time.

But I understand they have backed off using the postmark to disqualify absentee overseas ballots, and they will now be counted.

 

[ride525]

That memo simply looks like some instructions on what to look for when accepting overseas ballots. What specifically do you find wrong with it?

The Republicans were writing instructions too.......
Here is a quote from a memo written by Bush's Florida Campaign Co-Chair on Thursday, the day before overseas ballots were to be counted (She also happens to be Florida's Secretary of State) :



<< With regard to the status of overseas absentee ballots, they must have been executed as of last Tuesday. They must bear a foreign postmark as provide in Section 101.62(7), and they must be received by the Supervisors of Elections by midnight Friday. They are not required, however, to be postmarked on or prior to last Tuesday. >>



I would like to see as many ballots counted as possible too. Florida's law is very clear on the postmark issue. What would you do, given the law?

Now, the Florida law is not so clear on the issue of chad, and how far a chad must be punched to count as a vote. Perhaps the Florida Supreme Court will provide some guidance.

 

[Preyhunter]

Red Dawn (Dead Wrong),

I may have missed it in an earlier thread, but I would like to ask:

Who DID you vote for?

 

[DaBoneHead]

Red,


Me owes you 2 beers now...



When I saw the memo was from the drudge report, I didnt bother reading it. I'd suggest you take the same attitude. AP, CNN, MSNBC, Reuters... Yes. Drudge, No. Next you will be quoting Bigfoot's political input from the National Enquirer.

 

[Russ]

Anyone else notice that, as usual, the Bore apologists are skirting the REAL issue? On the one hand, the democrats argue vociferously that they should have a right to &quot;guess&quot; the &quot;intent&quot; of the voter, while on the other hand doing everything in their power to ignore that &quot;intent&quot; if the block of voters involved happens to be predominantly Bush supporters.

The memo itself is not the issue. The blatant hypocrisy is.

Russ, NCNE

 

[FettsBabe]

So what is the problem? It is a memo of what to look for in attesting the validity of a vote.Specify your hang up?

The hang up is that the certification for Florida has already passed, but the Dems keep trying to push that so they can count their votes. If we are following law by statute then shouldn't we follow every law? Yes, in fact the certification should be done (several days ago!), and no further changes by hand count should be allowed.

What else is my hang up?

That there is no particular way to read the ballot to determine voter intention. In fact, representatives of Florida election has stated that there is different techniques being used in each county, so how is that consistent? Its not! Hand count = Dem BS.

If Gore is elected President, I think all of the voters (that did vote) should file a lawsuit against him for pushing to change the current law to benefit his past election. I also feel a lawsuit should be filed against all representatives of the democratic party as well as the judicial system for not upholding the law. If Gore does prevail it will be a snow balls chance in hell that there won't be multiple lawsuits by American citizens feeling cheated by him and his party. I guess he had a great role model &quot;Clinton&quot; in breaking laws/changing laws to benefit his own agenda.
:| Oh, and someone please get that racist Jesse Jackson out of the spotlight.

 

[Russ]

BTW, attack the source all you want. The memo is real. It is no less credible simply because it was not first published by the Clinton News Network or some other liberal biased media outlet.

Russ, NCNE

 

[Russ]

<< In fact, representatives of Florida election has stated that there is different techniques being used in each county >>



Not only that, in Broward county they changed the criteria, lowering the standard, at about 40% through the hand count. Only the blind, or a democrat, would be incapable of seeing what's going on here.

Russ, NCNE

 

[ride525]

So, Russ, what would you do?

Given Florida law on overseas absentee voters, and trying to insure that the votes were exectuted by election day, what would you suggest?

Should we accept ALL overseas ballots without postmarks, even when the head of elections in Florida said you cannot?

I would like to see the overseas votes without postmarks counted, if there was some way to show they were executed by election day.

But Florida law clearly says you can't count them. Are they legal votes, if they are received, but not meeting Florida law?

 

[FettsBabe]

The law should be followed. As far as overseas ballots - further research would need to be conducted to determine why there was not a postmark. I find it hard to believe that when the ballot arrived at a Florida/US postoffice that it was not postmarked by our country. Why would a postmark be missing? That sounds &quot;fishy&quot; to me.

 

[Snoop]

Ripped from CBS news fellas



<< Last week, Mark Herron, a Tallahassee lawyer helping shepherd Democratic presidential election lawsuits through the local courts, sent a five-page letter to Democratic attorneys throughout Florida giving them tips on how to lodge protests against overseas ballots. >>



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