Mike Pence is NOT anti-gay.

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balloonshark

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Anti-gray?
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MtnMan

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Spidey would like us all to know that a guy who:

1) sponsored a constitutional amendment to ban gay marriage, saying that gay people marrying would cause societal collapse.

2) said he would only approve AIDS care funding if it included money for gay conversion therapy.

3) voted to continue to ban gay people from the military.

4) opposed a law banning discrimination against gay people in employment.

5) has a wife that works at a school which bans gay people.

Is totally not anti-gay.

Lol. Are you trying to make conservatives look stupid?
They don't need help looking stupid, they have it well under control.
 

UglyCasanova

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Of course it wasn’t, don’t be silly. Regardless of the stupidity of that stance though it’s clearly anti-gay.


It’s not though. Respecting someone’s constitutionally guaranteed rights of religion doesn’t mean they are anti gay. The baker very well may be anti gay (obviously is) but the court made the correct decision that someone shouldn’t be forced to created something that goes against their religious beliefs.
 

fskimospy

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It’s not though. Respecting someone’s constitutionally guaranteed rights of religion doesn’t mean they are anti gay. The baker very well may be anti gay (obviously is) but the court made the correct decision that someone shouldn’t be forced to created something that goes against their religious beliefs.

Okay, try convincing a single gay person that fighting for the rights of a business to discriminate against gay people isn’t anti-gay.
 

allisolm

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I, for one, am glad to know that Pence is not anti-gray.
He is, unfortunately, still anti-gay.
 
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SlowSpyder

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What has Trump done that isn’t friendly to LGB? The T is a totally serepate issue and I can’t understand why it’s lumped into the same category as the others.


If you look at his history he's really rather LGBT-friendly. This article paints Pence in a very different light than the leftist narrative and shows how Pence has even been an ally of theirs fighting for their rights.
 

Meghan54

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If you look at his history he's really rather LGBT-friendly. This article paints Pence in a very different light than the leftist narrative and shows how Pence has even been an ally of theirs fighting for their rights.

So which of these was the gay friendly part? (And I'm shamelessly copying fskimospy's post)

Sponsoring a constitutional amendment to ban gay marriage, saying that gay people marrying would cause societal collapse? Was that the one?

Maybe when he said he would only approve AIDS care funding if it included money for gay conversion therapy. That's the one, right?

When he voted to continue to ban gay people from the military. Is that the gay friendly support you're talking about?

Maybe it was when he opposed a law banning discrimination against gay people in employment. Yeah. that's got to be the gay friendly, pro-gay stance he took. Right?

Or maybe you could point out a few other stances he took that were actually supportive of gay issues......but you probably won't because you can't. The man is homophobic down to his twitching rectum....a closeted gay if there ever was one, that Pence is.
 

PJFrylar

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There may be times where he has done positive things for the LBGT community, but his support of conversion therapy is a non-starter. Being pro LBGT and supporting conversion therapy are mutually exclusive. The rabbit hole that is conversion therapy begins with seeing being homosexual as a mental illness to be cured. Compounding this, conversion therapy has typically had terrible success rates and no firm science behind it whatsoever. I'll give Pence credit and assume he draws the line at psychotherapy and does not support the aversion therapy that is basically torture or the debilitating lobotomies of the past.

Edit: I suspect that external pressures are his motivation when he does things that benefit the LBGT community, not internal ones.
 
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If you look at his history he's really rather LGBT-friendly. This article paints Pence in a very different light than the leftist narrative and shows how Pence has even been an ally of theirs fighting for their rights.

Pants still on fire.
 
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Did we really need a thread saying this? Duh, its obvious, just look at the guy's hair. Also, he's not anti-gray because that's just the intermediate step in conversion therapy to making things all white (which is All Right to conservatives).
 

woolfe9998

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Spidey would like us all to know that a guy who:

1) sponsored a constitutional amendment to ban gay marriage, saying that gay people marrying would cause societal collapse.

2) said he would only approve AIDS care funding if it included money for gay conversion therapy.

3) voted to continue to ban gay people from the military.

4) opposed a law banning discrimination against gay people in employment.

5) has a wife that works at a school which bans gay people.

Is totally not anti-gay.

Lol. Are you trying to make conservatives look stupid?

Slow's article only addresses one of these, which is point #2. The author claims that by conditioning AIDS funding on also providing money “directed toward those institutions which provide assistance to those seeking to change their sexual behavior” that Pence was referring to promiscuity and unprotected sex, not male/male relations. If so, I have no idea what "institutions" he was referring to. Also difficult to explain why Pence has never come out and said he doesn't believe in/support gay conversion therapy given that he's been accused of supporting it for decades now. If this author is correct, it would seem some clarification from Pence is in order. It's been 19 years now and AFAIK Pence has not bothered to set the record straight.

It doesn't address any of these other points. It does address some wild remarks made by a few Pence opponents about how Pence allegedly wants to put gays in concentration camps. Seeking out the most extreme comments to refute, and cherry-picking from real information, are classic propaganda techniques.