Microwave vs stove - Heating water

[LTC8K6]

http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=stove-versus-microwave-energy-use

Gas and electric stoves are more efficient.

However, you probably already have a big tank of hot water just sitting there, and using that already heated water would probably be the most efficient way to get boiling water.

 

[destrekor]

Honest username.

:hmm:

I am one.

lmftfy

 

[IronWing]

The most efficient method of boiling water

 

[Gibson486]

Microwave and stove are right next to each other.



wtf, are you dumb? That would be the worst because it's just like the stove but only at a lower voltage.

you have no idea what YOU are talking about.

 

[Phoenix86]

Are you dumb?

Office of redundancy office, how may I help you?

 

[fleabag]

"Despite these tips for cooking greener, Bluejay reiterates that most of us will hardly put a dent in our overall energy use just by choosing one appliance over another. According to his analysis, for someone who bakes three hours a week the cheapest cooking method saves only an estimated $2.06/month compared to the most expensive method."

Yeah I know this but I figure, what the hay..

 

[Sho'Nuff]

Fire is the best. You will use 0% billed gas, and 0% electric draw.
Think of how much energy you can save if you never turn the microwave and/or stove on for the rest of your life if you used fire to heat your water.

And WTF are you burning to get fire? Or are you one of those guys at Otacon that thinks he is a Mage from Final Fantasy and can conjur Bahamat every time he needs to light his cherry flavored cigarette?

 

[darkxshade]

I broil my water... yup

 

[Sho'Nuff]

Masturbate in a bath tub full of water and hope the thermal energy from metabolism transfers to the water :hmm:

Don't forget to account for friction.

 

[TwiceOver]

Hmm I had never heard of these, just read the Wiki. Awesome!

Very nice. Though you need to have the pots/pans for it or buy new.

 

[gaidensensei]

And WTF are you burning to get fire? Or are you one of those guys at Otacon that thinks he is a Mage from Final Fantasy and can conjur Bahamat every time he needs to light his cherry flavored cigarette?

You new around these parts?
Everyone knows that fleabag lives up in the hills and takes a few hours to get into the city. He takes a few hours in office max to mull over storage cabinets, and 12 hour trips in Fry's.
He's got plenty of natural resources around to use from where he is.

Just to bring you up to speed, his goal isn't green earth but extreme dollar savings to the max. THIS WHY YOU MUST pump your tires to sidewall.
Everyone knows this.

 

[Sho'Nuff]

You new around these parts?
Everyone knows that fleabag lives up in the hills and takes a few hours to get into the city. He takes a few hours in office max to mull over storage cabinets, and 12 hour trips in Fry's.
He's got plenty of natural resources around to use from where he is.

Just to bring you up to speed, his goal isn't green earth but extreme dollar savings to the max. THIS WHY YOU MUST pump your tires to sidewall.
Everyone knows this.

Nah, not new to ATOT. But I didn't know fleabag has unlimited natural resources to burn.

And WTH is up with all the "inflate your tires to sidewall" stuff on the board?

 

[gaidensensei]

http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=335140
http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2028977
http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2052762
http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2043038
http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2046348

Here's your resources.. now hit the books up! :awe:
Don't want you failing on future ATOT meme pop quizzes.

 

[ConstipatedVigilante]

Is being unable to boil water efficiently enough going to keep you from making tea/coffee, just like your car not being efficient enough keeps you from exercising?

 

[zinfamous]

fleabagging in a sidewall thread

 

[alevasseur14]

It shocks me you're survived this long. Come to think of it, it also shocks me that you'd knowingly open yourself to ridicule by asking the best way TO BOIL WATER. Christ...

 

[IronWing]

It shocks me you're survived this long. Come to think of it, it also shocks me that you'd knowingly open yourself to ridicule by asking the best way TO BOIL WATER. Christ...

Given the length of the hard boiled egg thread, this should not be shocking. ATOTers are the folks who look for the USB port on a bag of Doritos.

 

[ShawnD1]

It shocks me you're survived this long. Come to think of it, it also shocks me that you'd knowingly open yourself to ridicule by asking the best way TO BOIL WATER. Christ...

Seems stupid but it took me years to figure out the stove is bullshit. My parents are old school people who learned to cook without microwaves, so everything they did and showed me was using the stove. Hot dogs were prepared by boiling them on the stove, and it took quite a while because stoves suck. I was probably 15 by the time I even attempted to use the microwave for this.

Fleabag is about 15 so it seems reasonable that he too would just now be figuring out that microwaves are faster than stoves when boiling water. He should keep that in mind when he goes camping; trying to boil water or cook chinese noodles on a camp fire takes way too god damn long. Buy a 1100W microwave for camping

 

[DrPizza]

I'm thinking the most efficient way, energywise, to bring water to a boil would be by reducing the pressure above the water to near vacuum.


Alternatively, you could use a heat exchange between your radiator fluid in your car & your pot of water, rather than vent all the excess heat to the air where it's wasted. Except, that wouldn't work at Lake Tahoe... in the winter.

 

[fleabag]

I'm thinking the most efficient way, energywise, to bring water to a boil would be by reducing the pressure above the water to near vacuum.


Alternatively, you could use a heat exchange between your radiator fluid in your car & your pot of water, rather than vent all the excess heat to the air where it's wasted. Except, that wouldn't work at Lake Tahoe... in the winter.

Regardless of whether or not it would work at lake tahoe in winter, the bigger problem would be the coolant's toxicity. But even if you had a heat exchanger with a heat exchanger, there would be too much heat loss, not to mention the fact that coolant temperatures rarely get that high in the coolant alone, let alone when you have the loss between two heat exchangers.

Oh and for the asshats that are going to say, "but my car's temperature regularly gets to 230F", I don't give a shit about your crappy corvette or any other such vehicle for that matter because.

 

[Tea Bag]

What if the crappy corvette's tires were inflated to sidewall?

 

[fleabag]

What if the crappy corvette's tires were inflated to sidewall?

Tire pressure and coolant temperature aren't related.

 

[PottedMeat]

what the hell does highest coolant temperature experienced have to do with vehicle crappiness?

 

[fleabag]

what the hell does highest coolant temperature experienced have to do with vehicle crappiness?

It has to do with the fact that you're a pious little shithead.

 

[IronWing]

Tire pressure and coolant temperature aren't related.

Graph them together. I bet as you drive both go up together then back down together when you park.