Microsoft Palladium, yes or no

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Originally posted by: Nemesis77

Originally posted by: WoodchuckCharlie

With Windows I need to install the apps, install ther drivers... That's something I don't have to do in Linux, when I install the OS, the apps are installed too.

Ummmm, Linux knows exactly what apps you want installed and does everything for you?? And for the past few years, anytime I've installed a Microsoft OS, I've never had to install any kind of drivers, everything was installed at OS installation.

That's the only sentence I had a problem with

What I meant is that in your average Linux-distro, when you install the OS, it provides you with a list of available apps. You pick and choose what you want, and the proceed with the installation. I once timed it how long it took me to have fully installed system just waiting for me to start working. From start of the install to a fully operational desktop with all the apps I wanted installed: about 25 minutes. Installation of Windows takes about the same time, but after that I have to install the apps I want to use + the drivers. All in all, I think full installation of Windows, apps and drivers takes a bit over 1 hour (well, assuming what and how many apps you want to install).

Installed Linux-distro is good to go, you can start using it for real work right away (with servers, server-tool, developement-tools, office-suites etc. etc.). Installed Windows is not ready to go. Just about the only things you can do with it, is to play solitaire and run Notepad.

Ahhh, the advantage of everything being free, huh? Didn't think of it that way. Thanks for explaining yourself.

 

[Nemesis77]

Originally posted by: slag

Not to start an argument with you, but I recently installed RH8 and it took well over an hour on my laptop. Win2k took 49 minutes.

My install was SuSE 7.2 (if I remember correctly) using the DVD. And it took me about 25 minutes from start of the installation to a fully working desktop with all the productivity-apps I could ever want. I bet that you were installing "a bit" more software and apps in your RedHat install than in your Windows-install (after all, Windows doesn't ship with that much hardware. SuSE for example ships (if I remember correctly) with over 6000 apps)

Windows 2k also comes with the apps you need just like Linux does.

Ummmm, no it doesn't. Your average Linux-distro comes with office-suites (does Office ship with Windows?), servers (does Exchange or SQL-server ship with Windows?), server-tools, developement-tools...

Linux has VI, Windows has notepad or wordpad.

You are comparing Vi to Notepad and Wordpad

Both have window managers.

There is exactly one window-manager in Windows.

The linux install is much much larger than the Windows install also. You must have some basic knowledge of the linux filesystem and how you want to configure it also whereas windows just wants to know the basic drive you want it installed on.

Basic knowledge? Applications go to /usr (or /opt), that's it. How is that different from Windows's "applications go to C:\Program Files"-approach?

Yes, Windows does make you install some drivers that it doesnt come natively with or that you cannot download off of the ms update site, but I see now that Redhat has adopted the whole Webupdate Wizard style that Windows has been using for a couple years now.. Good for them!!

That webupdate (up2date) is used for alot more than just install drivers. You can use it to install & update every piece of software on your machine, including third-party software. It does alot more than windowsupdate does.

Redhat doesnt come with Native drivers for many pieces of hardware either, you have to download and install them. No different from Windows.

I'm not a RedHat user, but I guess that they are not really different from SuSE for example. And every piece of hardware I had worked out of the box when I used SuSE. No need to hunt for drivers. Well, the only drivers I downloaded and installed were the 3D-accelerated NVIDIA-drivers.

By all means, if you want to play any current games, Windows is the only operating system you should be interested in.

Have I claimed otherwise? That's the reason I run W2K.

 

[hans007]

Originally posted by: guyver01
wtf is Palladium?

btw.. i voted Palladium, cuz Linux is too hard for me

linux on the desktop is getting much easier. redhat and mandrake 8 are just as easy to install on most computers. for most tasks linux is fine. the $199 walmart lindows machines being sold by the thousands is proof that linux is starting to take off on the desktop.


its just a trickle now, but once more and more developers start writing software for linux, all the other companies will have to do it as well to stay competitive and a sudden rush to develop for linux will probably happen.

 

[Skyclad1uhm1]

The fact that we're on page 2 and Ameesh still hasn't jumped in to deny the allegations must mean it's true!

 

[DaFinn]

What... only bulloxium or Linux as a choice... argh, no vote from me!

 

[Skyclad1uhm1]

Originally posted by: DaFinn
What... only bulloxium or Linux as a choice... argh, no vote from me!

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