Microsoft Palladium, yes or no

XZeroII

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Palladium. I'm not gonna waste my time messing with linux. It has it's uses, but consumer desktop is not one of them.
 
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The day MS releases Palladium will be the day I drive a Mack truck up to the front doors of their HQ and EMP the crap out of the place.

Or I'll just wait for someone to h4x0r it. :D

- M4H
 

KC5AV

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I don't have much to worry about. My employer is still using win95 on most of the machines around here.
 

Electrode

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I've been using Linux for a year now, and I will continue to use it until Bill Gates sends his death squads out for me. :)
 

Chadder007

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Ive checked out Linux lately and it has come a long way to being a desktop OS replacement with recent revisions of Mandrake and RedHat. The last one I had was Redhat 5.2 and I hated it, but the new ones are cool.
 

Sukhoi

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Originally posted by: ncircle
w2k til the heavens fall.

Yep, neither should be a poll option. I'm planning on running Win2K and/or WinXP for a very long time.
 

dullard

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Originally posted by: wyvrn
In your opinion. Many people use Linux for their desktop and get along quite fine. I wonder if you have even ever tried? More importantly, did you give it the same amount of time it took you to learn Windows desktop? If not, then quite frankly, your opinion is UNQUALIFIED :)

Originally posted by: XZeroII
Palladium. I'm not gonna waste my time messing with linux. It has it's uses, but consumer desktop is not one of them.
I'm in the same boat with XZeroII. My roommate had his main computer using Linux. He was a computer science major and worked full time as a computer programmer. I had an open mind (since I've used unix at work), and thought it was interesting to use it for a home computer. He brought home new peripherals about every two weeks. Each time he'd have to spend hours even days writing his own code to get the peripherals to work under Linux. It usually worked but sometimes he couldn't get it done (thats with all his experience and education). For example one video camera would never give color videos, only black and white. He spent weeks working on that, calling the manufacturer, browsing forums for help and never got it to work. Most games worked well, but not all - some of the best games we had to play on my computer, or one of his other slower computers. To me, it just is too much effort. Until you can go to a store and be certain the peripheral/software will work when you bring it home, Linux isn't for general home use.
 

Dedpuhl

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Originally posted by: Turin39789
IIRC Palladium will be subscription based, amongst other things

*Nix for me


This is one reason I will not upgrade to Palladium.
 

Descartes

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Not to hijack this thread, but...

The problem I have with linux is that when you learn something, you never really learn something. That may sound absurd, but after you've spent 8 hours getting Tomcat, Apache SOAP, etc. running stabilized on a linux box, it's no longer such an absurd notion. You can spend countless hours hacking away at the seemingly infinite shell scripts used to load drivers, initialize network cards, ad nauseum, only to have the entire structure changed with the next release (so much for FHS). I consider ALL this time WASTED. I learn nothing from doing this. I already know how to do it, it's just a tedious matter of doing so. I'm not gaining any foundational knowledge that will help me in the future.

With my Windows platforms, the configuration/install is a breeze and I can spend the majority of my time actually writing code, learning, and getting something done.

I keep my linux boxen in runlevel 3 simply because gnome/kde offers me nothing over my windows boxen. I develop on my Windows boxen using, imo, better tools, and simply sftp them over to my linux box when I'm done.

I understand this is a bit extreme, but I find it very true.
 

Swag1138

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Ill be sticking with win2K until I cant use it anymore. Then Ill switch to Linux.

Ive got my second PC running Mandrake 8.1 right now, but it doesnt currently have a monitor so I rarely use it.
 

Lonyo

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Will parts for computers suddenly stop being available when Palladium is released or something? I mean, won't we just be able to buy a Mobo, Processor (AMD) etc and stick 2K/XP or whatever on it, which has no Palladium support? Also, I was thinking, what happens if you have no internet access? How will it update your system automatically if you don't use the net much/at all?
Edit: didn't see comment about new PC's. But surely people can make their own instead, if they know how at least.
 

GroundZero

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i will never use palladium.
bill tries to stick his nose in my business too much already.
i'll be damned if he's going to get inside my machine more than he already is!