Microsoft bars Windows pirates

[rh71]

Originally posted by: LuNoTiCK
I'm sure these pirates will be able to download versions with it slipstreamed. Microsoft can't stop them so easily.

True statement.

 

[cquark]

Originally posted by: Modeps
Big deal, let them pirates suffer.

The problem is that all of us suffer because of other's unsecured systems. I run Linux, so I've never had a virus or worm infection, but that doesn't stop malware from filling up my email or clogging the networks I use. Microsoft said security was their #1 priority, but this limitation on downloading SP2 proves that it's not the case.

 

[NuclearFusi0n]

Ah, I love when these threads come up and I don't have to give a damn. =)

www.gentoo.org

 

[GhettoFob]

Originally posted by: NuclearFusi0n
Ah, I love when these threads come up and I don't have to give a damn. =)

www.gentoo.org

:beer:

 

[dman]

Until they have DRM in the BIOS and it's not hackable there (nice try Xbox) and the OS ties into that, it's unlikely they have any chance of preventing piracy.

Hopefully consumers will fear the DRM Hardware and not buy it, so, that day will not come.

 

[AFB]

Originally posted by: Xiety

Originally posted by: oniq

Originally posted by: Xiety

Originally posted by: halik

Originally posted by: Xiety
I :heart: Windows XP Pro ... most stable OS in my book. My desktop has been up for 25 days but my laptop is still going strong for more than 2 months

heh, you'd love BSD or Linux then...

no thanks... I prefer an OS with user-friendly interface. Windows XP Pro > BSD or Linux. For me at least. And yes, I tried them both.

I guess.. if you like being baby-talked through life XP is the way to go. But once you are mature enough to figure out how to use a command line you may want to switch.

ROFL. You are dumb.

"Let's switch to Linux cause typing into the command line instead of a single click makes me mature and cool." :roll:

LOL. That is the truth.

 

[styrafoam]

Why is MS doing a 180 from what they said last month?

 

[Shyatic]

Originally posted by: styrafoam
Why is MS doing a 180 from what they said last month?

Curious..

 

[GreatBarracuda]

Very Interesting... :Q

 

[Klixxer]

Originally posted by: dwell

Originally posted by: Klixxer
A keygen randomly creates numbers, it won't do anything except for those who have bought licenses for pirated versions with their computers, and those would be the targeted group.

And yes dwell, screw them, they do deserve it, if you want a free OS, do what i do, use a free OS.

Well, look at it this way. Someone who is pissed at MS for doing this creates a virus that targets a pre-SP2 exploit, rendering it un-patchable on these pirate systems. The virus does a massive DDOS attack on, say, microsoft.com. Suddenly you have hundreds of thousands of un-patchable computers banging the hell out of ms.com, or anyone and everyone the author wants to hose.

Not patching the pirates makes sense from an ethical standpoint, but not from a practical one.

You mean that these nutjobs with stolen software might bang a server for the rest of us? Ok, i get your point.

I just wish morons would quit pirating, in the end, they are nothing but little thiefs, i would report someone if i knew of anyone.

 

[Klixxer]

Originally posted by: Xiety

Originally posted by: oniq

Originally posted by: Xiety

Originally posted by: halik

Originally posted by: Xiety
I :heart: Windows XP Pro ... most stable OS in my book. My desktop has been up for 25 days but my laptop is still going strong for more than 2 months

heh, you'd love BSD or Linux then...

no thanks... I prefer an OS with user-friendly interface. Windows XP Pro > BSD or Linux. For me at least. And yes, I tried them both.

I guess.. if you like being baby-talked through life XP is the way to go. But once you are mature enough to figure out how to use a command line you may want to switch.

ROFL. You are dumb.

"Let's switch to Linux cause typing into the command line instead of a single click makes me mature and cool." :roll:

And you could single click in X window system too, it isn't any harder to single click an icon in X window system than in windows, the difference is that you have a choice and a commandline shell that is actually useful.

I agree that the word mature is the wrong word, but once you get the hang of the system, any unix-like system is a helluvalot easier to control than any windows box.

 

[Klixxer]

Originally posted by: Xiety

Originally posted by: halik

Originally posted by: Xiety
I :heart: Windows XP Pro ... most stable OS in my book. My desktop has been up for 25 days but my laptop is still going strong for more than 2 months

heh, you'd love BSD or Linux then...

no thanks... I prefer an OS with user-friendly interface. Windows XP Pro > BSD or Linux. For me at least. And yes, I tried them both.

You have? ok, now if you tried one of the distros that is marked "user friendly" you would have noticed that it is very user friendly.

Which distro did you try, which WM did it come with?

 

[Turkish]

Originally posted by: Klixxer

Originally posted by: Xiety

Originally posted by: halik

Originally posted by: Xiety
I :heart: Windows XP Pro ... most stable OS in my book. My desktop has been up for 25 days but my laptop is still going strong for more than 2 months

heh, you'd love BSD or Linux then...

no thanks... I prefer an OS with user-friendly interface. Windows XP Pro > BSD or Linux. For me at least. And yes, I tried them both.

You have? ok, now if you tried one of the distros that is marked "user friendly" you would have noticed that it is very user friendly.

Which distro did you try, which WM did it come with?

I tried Redhat about a year ago... and Mandrake not so long ago... didn't like it...

Let me remind you, 99% of the population doesn't need all the nifty things you guys tell about Linux...

Windows XP Pro offers me everything I need and is extremely stable. Oh for BSD, I thik it was OpenBSD? Is that it? Not sure about the name, tried it on someone else's computer.

 

[ProviaFan]

Microsoft has worked out the 20 most pirated product IDs and SP2 will not install and run on any copy of XP bearing one of those numbers.

"The situation at the moment is that we will block those," he said.

Well, it looks like those who used the XP CD key changer that supposedly generates random valid keys (no, I don't know this from personal experience) should be ok, unless MS changes things before the launch, or unless the keygen wasn't really a keygen and just recycled a list of keys (which I don't think so, given how long my friend said it took to find a key... unless it was a conspiracy, just spoofing with a delay loop or something).

Uh, yeah, whatever. Anyway, my XP is legal... umm... the box is buried around here somewhere.

 

[TallBill]

I like how you guys are making fun of a company trying to protect their software.

 

[Childs]

Originally posted by: Xiety
I :heart: Windows XP Pro ... most stable OS in my book. My desktop has been up for 25 days but my laptop is still going strong for more than 2 months

Hah...Mac OS X sheits on you!

Anyways, they will probably let the pirates download SP2, especially after the next big worm comes along and many PCs won't be patched because they can't use Windows Update, causing massive imaginary corporate loses due to the crippling of the internet.

 

[Chu]

Originally posted by: Modeps
Big deal, let them pirates suffer.

The problem is we all suffer from unpatched systems

 

[NetGuySC]

I am expecting Microsoft to soon starts using Dongles ... I hear that they are more difficult for the average user to crack.

 

[Mik3y]

well, how do they decide wut is pirated? the cd keys that are barred on the black list? or wut?

 

[toant103]

Originally posted by: Modeps
Big deal, let them pirates suffer.

 

[ProviaFan]

Originally posted by: Mik3y
well, how do they decide wut is pirated? the cd keys that are barred on the black list? or wut?

The article says right now that additional (20) keys are blacklisted, but that details may change before release.

 

[Bleep]

Pirating will continue along just like it has before, I agree that it is a bad decision on MS part because the pirated OS is still there and it will be cranking out virus after virus because of no security patch available,
Now for the

heh, you'd love BSD or Linux then

quote of the thread.
I am a linux user and it has some real problems also, one of which and it is a big one, drivers for some hardware like printers and digital cameras, no amount of command line crap will make things work without the proper driver. BTW I dont like win xp, win 2000 pretty good though.

Bleep

 

[TheToOTaLL]

Originally posted by: DaiShan

Originally posted by: TheToOTaLL
LOL!

Microsoft = teh funnay once again!

What do they consider a "pirated" version??? The media source that most "bootleggers" use is a Open/Select License copy, combined with a Volume License Key. Unless they are planning to cut out their biggest financial contributors - big businesses who only use the volume license copies - then there's not jack shyat they can do.

Eh you seem to be a little misinformed about how microsoft does their licensing. They do NOT have a single corporate license key. Each corporation gets its own key that they can use to install on all of the computers they have, microsoft makes them pay for a license for each computer in their organization CAPABLE of running windows xp. The bootleggers aren't generally using keys from legitimate corporations, its not like microsoft can't block their keys without reprocussion, its easy.

Ummm, I never once said there is one "key" - I said there is there is "a Open/Select License copy" of Windows xP, ie, media. After the xP Pro pre-SP1 key fiasco, they blocked the one single key that most bootleggers were using from Windows Update & the SP1 update, which is something MS can do again for SP2 if they have wind of more "illegitimate" keys. Other than those 2 restrictions, there's not much Microsoft can do to "disable" use of any installs with that key. By now, pirates have gotten smart and created programs to make their own keys, so I doubt they would have to use a "real" volume license key leaked from a corporation, which I rarely believe happens.

 

[Nebor]

Originally posted by: dwell

Originally posted by: Klixxer
A keygen randomly creates numbers, it won't do anything except for those who have bought licenses for pirated versions with their computers, and those would be the targeted group.

And yes dwell, screw them, they do deserve it, if you want a free OS, do what i do, use a free OS.

Well, look at it this way. Someone who is pissed at MS for doing this creates a virus that targets a pre-SP2 exploit, rendering it un-patchable on these pirate systems. The virus does a massive DDOS attack on, say, microsoft.com. Suddenly you have hundreds of thousands of un-patchable computers banging the hell out of ms.com, or anyone and everyone the author wants to hose.

Not patching the pirates makes sense from an ethical standpoint, but not from a practical one.

You think something that simplistic would work on Microsoft? You underestimate the people who run the computer world.

 

[Chaotic42]

Originally posted by: NuclearFusi0n
Ah, I love when these threads come up and I don't have to give a damn. =)

www.gentoo.org

Don't make me bring up your Linux teething pains there, grasshopper.