They already have cracked versions on USENET.... lol it's not going to take long, I really don't know why they bother because people are MUCH more determined to crack it than the people making the software 'hack proof'.
Fingolfin269
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That doesn't really matter because it's my glass. I'd rather be looking at the half empty glass I've had for quite awhile as opposed to a brand new one.
Anyone who thinks this is actually going to fix all of the current problems without creating new ones is way too optimistic. MS has to actually earn my trust.
How is this going to effect the corporate version? Are they just blocking known keys again? BFD, XPKeys generates valid keys for all versions.
This is a bad idea. There are millions of pirated versions of XP out there, in the Far East especially. What's going to happen is all those computers are going to get hit by a virus which exploits a pre-SP2 exploit and it's going to spread like wildfire. Worst of all it can't be patched on those systems. In the end Microsoft is going to look like assholes if they just say, "Screw them, the deserved it for pirating XP."
This is a bad idea. There are millions of pirated versions of XP out there, in the Far East especially. What's going to happen is all those computers are going to get hit by a virus which exploits a pre-SP2 exploit and it's going to spread like wildfire. Worst of all it can't be patched on those systems. In the end Microsoft is going to look like assholes if they just say, "Screw them, the deserved it for pirating XP."
Originally posted by: Xiety
I :heart: Windows XP Pro ... most stable OS in my book. My desktop has been up for 25 days but my laptop is still going strong for more than 2 months
WinXP Pro is ok but Win2K rox it's boat
Sysadmin
A keygen randomly creates numbers, it won't do anything except for those who have bought licenses for pirated versions with their computers, and those would be the targeted group.
And yes dwell, screw them, they do deserve it, if you want a free OS, do what i do, use a free OS.
And yes dwell, screw them, they do deserve it, if you want a free OS, do what i do, use a free OS.
Fingolfin269
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Yup, and the pirates have taught MS a lesson that people won't pay $150 for something that takes years to fix.
Turkish
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Originally posted by: halik
Originally posted by: Xiety
I :heart: Windows XP Pro ... most stable OS in my book. My desktop has been up for 25 days but my laptop is still going strong for more than 2 months
heh, you'd love BSD or Linux then...
no thanks... I prefer an OS with user-friendly interface. Windows XP Pro > BSD or Linux. For me at least. And yes, I tried them both.
yukichigai
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The only way anything like this will succeed is if microsoft starts putting serial number verification into their critical hotfixes. Every. Single. Hotfix. Of course then they'd wind up with a bunch of pirated computers spreading some godawful virus. And you can't argue "they deserved it" when it's a virus that launches a huge DDoS on something.
P.S.: Especially with the raw socket capabilities XP has.
P.S.: Especially with the raw socket capabilities XP has.
Originally posted by: Xiety
Originally posted by: halik
Originally posted by: Xiety
I :heart: Windows XP Pro ... most stable OS in my book. My desktop has been up for 25 days but my laptop is still going strong for more than 2 months
heh, you'd love BSD or Linux then...
no thanks... I prefer an OS with user-friendly interface. Windows XP Pro > BSD or Linux. For me at least. And yes, I tried them both.
I guess.. if you like being baby-talked through life XP is the way to go. But once you are mature enough to figure out how to use a command line you may want to switch.
Fingolfin269
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Originally posted by: oniq
Originally posted by: Xiety
Originally posted by: halik
Originally posted by: Xiety
I :heart: Windows XP Pro ... most stable OS in my book. My desktop has been up for 25 days but my laptop is still going strong for more than 2 months
heh, you'd love BSD or Linux then...
no thanks... I prefer an OS with user-friendly interface. Windows XP Pro > BSD or Linux. For me at least. And yes, I tried them both.
I guess.. if you like being baby-talked through life XP is the way to go. But once you are mature enough to figure out how to use a command line you may want to switch.
What's the point?
Most pirated copies of XP and other software are used in the private environment, at home -- where not nearly as much as MS's money comes from. Most of their money from XP comes from new system builders and from corporations, both of whom are pretty good at being honest about licensing. MS should look at it this way -- if a person is pirating their product(s), they are more likely to use it in a professional environment and recommend it to their business etc, just garnering more sales.
There will *always* be piraters, and MS will never be able to beat them because MS employees are motivated by managment to code this stuff... piraters are motivated by challenge and to 'stick it to MS', and that's a huge advantage especially since most crackers are very talented programmers as well.
Wasting all that money on activation technology et al well... it's a waste of resources imo; I got a copy of XP from a system builder event so I use that, but if MS weren't such rabid dogs in their licensing well -- this pirating would happen less since it would be more affordable to buy a copy. Look at Mac OSX... you buy one copy, you can install it on 5 computers. That's what Microsoft needs to start doing.
There will *always* be piraters, and MS will never be able to beat them because MS employees are motivated by managment to code this stuff... piraters are motivated by challenge and to 'stick it to MS', and that's a huge advantage especially since most crackers are very talented programmers as well.
Wasting all that money on activation technology et al well... it's a waste of resources imo; I got a copy of XP from a system builder event so I use that, but if MS weren't such rabid dogs in their licensing well -- this pirating would happen less since it would be more affordable to buy a copy. Look at Mac OSX... you buy one copy, you can install it on 5 computers. That's what Microsoft needs to start doing.
Turkish
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Originally posted by: oniq
Originally posted by: Xiety
Originally posted by: halik
Originally posted by: Xiety
I :heart: Windows XP Pro ... most stable OS in my book. My desktop has been up for 25 days but my laptop is still going strong for more than 2 months
heh, you'd love BSD or Linux then...
no thanks... I prefer an OS with user-friendly interface. Windows XP Pro > BSD or Linux. For me at least. And yes, I tried them both.
I guess.. if you like being baby-talked through life XP is the way to go. But once you are mature enough to figure out how to use a command line you may want to switch.
ROFL. You are dumb.
"Let's switch to Linux cause typing into the command line instead of a single click makes me mature and cool." :roll:
Originally posted by: Xiety
Originally posted by: oniq
Originally posted by: Xiety
Originally posted by: halik
Originally posted by: Xiety
I :heart: Windows XP Pro ... most stable OS in my book. My desktop has been up for 25 days but my laptop is still going strong for more than 2 months
heh, you'd love BSD or Linux then...
no thanks... I prefer an OS with user-friendly interface. Windows XP Pro > BSD or Linux. For me at least. And yes, I tried them both.
I guess.. if you like being baby-talked through life XP is the way to go. But once you are mature enough to figure out how to use a command line you may want to switch.
ROFL. You are dumb.
"Let's switch to Linux cause typing into the command line instead of a single click makes me mature and cool." :roll:
A - M - E - N Xiety.
cronos
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Originally posted by: Sysadmin
Originally posted by: Xiety
I :heart: Windows XP Pro ... most stable OS in my book. My desktop has been up for 25 days but my laptop is still going strong for more than 2 months
WinXP Pro is ok but Win2K rox it's boat
Sysadmin
i'm with you there Sysadmin.
i still think that Win2K is by far the most stable OS from microsoft (i don't have enough experience with Windows2K3 to make a comparison though).
i only converted to XP because of its remote desktop feature (and, of course, because i got two licenses of it for free.. heheh). it's very hard to go back to 2K after using this feature.
SP1 wouldn't let you install if you were using the FCKGW key. In order to get around it, you had to update your key to a "valid" one. So since all the FCKGWs should already be gone, I'm not sure what SP2 would be looking at, unless the FCKGW'ers just moved to a different static key.
DrPizza
Administrator Elite Member Goat Whisperer
Well, look at it this way. Someone who is pissed at MS for doing this creates a virus that targets a pre-SP2 exploit, rendering it un-patchable on these pirate systems. The virus does a massive DDOS attack on, say, microsoft.com. Suddenly you have hundreds of thousands of un-patchable computers banging the hell out of ms.com, or anyone and everyone the author wants to hose.
Not patching the pirates makes sense from an ethical standpoint, but not from a practical one.
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