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Michigan School District Allows Sikh Students to Wear Religious Dagger

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Who is going to be checking that the knife is not removable and is dull? It appears that no one will, and an observer won't be able to tell if it's removable or not, or dull.

So, you will be able to bring a sharpened removable knife to school, because no one is going to check it.
 
SagaLore said:
I agree with the ruling. This IS separation of church and state. The state is not supposed to enforce church, but is also not supposed to restrict it.
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crownjules said:
Flip that around. If all weapons are banned from school property, why is one with special religious connotation attached to it allowable?
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Zero tolerance is the rule of the land these days(which is a joke when it comes to plastic toys) but this kid gets a pass. Why?

He is getting a pass because of his religious beliefs.
preslove said:
It's not a double standard unless you belong to a religion that requires you kids to have toy weapons on your person at all times.

Screw you and your victim complex.
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Mine does and I do. I also believe that he should be trained and excel in the use of firearms. But I don't plan on letting him take one to school. Or a knife either.

Screw me? Sorry, you're not my type. Not into bunghole banditry.?
 
dabuddha said:
Kirpan.jpg


I'm sure I could hurt someone with that.
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Yep. As long as you do not remove it, and keep it under your shirt, no one will check on it, so you would be able to wear it.

You would have to give it away, and then be snitched on, for it to be taken from you.
 
yllus said:
I initially had a problem with this like a decade ago before realizing that blanket rules are what make society act as retarded as it often does these days.

These things are utterly harmless. Allowing children to wear them as a symbol of their faith harms no one. Stop using issues like this to prop up your "the minorities are running wild!" bullshit.
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What? Otherwise I'm with you.
 
aceO07 said:
That kirpan is as sharp as an AAA battery, unless that's just the sheath.
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Just did a google image search on it. The pictures they show appear to depict a knife capable of killing someone.

As near as I can tell, it seems like a case of, instead of banning stupid things that shouldn't be a problem, the school is allowing a dangerous thing that is a threat. What a shock, a school/school board with its head up its ass.

-KeithP
 
KeithP said:
Just did a google image search on it. The pictures they show appear to depict a knife capable of killing someone.

-KeithP
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I'm just gonna toss an idea out there.

Do you think, just maybe, the ones the school allows, (meeting the "must be dull" requirement) just MIGHT be different then the ones you see on a google image search?
 
LTC8K6 said:
Who is going to be checking that the knife is not removable and is dull? It appears that no one will, and an observer won't be able to tell if it's removable or not, or dull.

So, you will be able to bring a sharpened removable knife to school, because no one is going to check it.
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No one's also going to be checking if you bring a handgun in your pocket.
 
This thread would be 1000% more awesome if it were titled

Michigan School District Allows Sith Students to Wear Religious Lightsaber
 
highland145 said:
Zero tolerance is the rule of the land these days(which is a joke when it comes to plastic toys) but this kid gets a pass. Why?

He is getting a pass because of his religious beliefs.
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You could say that about a lot of things though, we as a nation have become hyper-sensitived to religion.

Don't want to vaccinate your kids? Claim a religious exemption.
Don't want to treat your child's cancer with modern medicine? Claim a religious exemption.
Don't want to send your child to school K-12? Claim a religious exemption.

If anything doesn't go the way you want it to, just pull out the religion card and claim persecution.
 
Once my old boss gets a hold of this I expect to see him scream on Facebook about America taking another step towards becoming a Muslim country even though the article is not about Muslims.
 
LTC8K6 said:
Who is going to be checking that the knife is not removable and is dull? It appears that no one will, and an observer won't be able to tell if it's removable or not, or dull.

So, you will be able to bring a sharpened removable knife to school, because no one is going to check it.
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Thats what I'm sayin'

People who think this is OK are heading down a slippery slope.
 
kami333 said:
You could say that about a lot of things though, we as a nation have become hyper-sensitived to religion.

Don't want to vaccinate your kids? Claim a religious exemption.
Don't want to treat your child's cancer with modern medicine? Claim a religious exemption.
Don't want to send your child to school K-12? Claim a religious exemption.

If anything doesn't go the way you want it to, just pull out the <insert personal agenda> card and claim persecution.
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Agree. Hell, it even works with obamacare. Scientologists, Amish and Muslins get a pass, iirc.
 
highland145 said:
Zero tolerance is the rule of the land these days(which is a joke when it comes to plastic toys) but this kid gets a pass. Why?

He is getting a pass because of his religious beliefs.

Mine does and I do. I also believe that he should be trained and excel in the use of firearms. But I don't plan on letting him take one to school. Or a knife either.

Screw me? Sorry, you're not my type. Not into bunghole banditry.?
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It's a dull knife, get the fuck over it.

Fuck you and your whiny bullshit.

No. One. Cares.
 
highland145 said:
Agree. Hell, it even works with obamacare. Scientologists, Amish and Muslins get a pass, iirc.
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It's not just those religions, it's any recognized religion that has established tenets that prohibit insurance.

To be fair, the Old Order Amish and Mennonites who would be exempt also don't pay or receive social security including medicare/medicaid so they have a long precedent of religious exclusion, and in theory wouldn't additionally burden the state since they don't accept SS.

Whether or not Muslims would be exempt still seems up in the air from what I have read in the past, since the majority of them do pay and receive social security I'm not sure if they'll be able to claim precedent. I don't think anyone has challenged it either way, so I wouldn't convert just to try to get an exemption.


I have less of a problem with religious exemptions when the petitioner is a true adherent and not just using their religion as an excuse to get away with something that others can't (aka a Jack Mormon). A good example is the kirpan policy that was used at the Vancouver Olympics. Originally Sikhs weren't going to be allowed in with kirpans due to security concerns, but much like in this case the rules were later amended to allow them as long as they met certain criteria. One of the criteria was that it was only allowed to be carried in conjunction with the other articles of faith which are the hair, comb, braclet, and kaccha; so one couldn't just randomly be carrying a knife and claim it was for religious purposes. However there isn't a good way to test a person's level of "religiousness" and even if it were, it would probably be unconstitutional.
 
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