Michelle Obama, "This is not normal. This is not politics as usual."

[HamburgerBoy]

In your reply you advocated nothing, stood for nothing, and typed nothing but an empty ad hominem attack on me referencing "using things resembling actual arguments" while putting forth NONE yourself. Congratulations.

Relentlessly sounding the alarm against arguably the worst Presidential candidate ever and his horde of ugly-minded supporters is not bullshit. Trump is bullshit. And so was your petulant little post.

No point trying to engage you. I'll admit I did see you make a cogent argument two days ago wrt the Clinton/NYT email "scandal", otherwise that's not something you do, so it's not really worth my effort. This is clearly evidenced by your failure provide reason how voting for someone I do not support is my "duty", when the person I do not support supported the nomination of the person I supposedly have a duty to oppose. If you can provide a reason that isn't "Michelle Obama/John Oliver/The Atlantic said so" or "You're a shitlord if you don't", I'll be happy to discuss its merits.

That's some truly lame-ass bullshit, blaming Clinton for Trump. It's almost as lame as ignoring what Michelle said.

I have nothing against Michelle Obama off the top of my head. I listened to a minute or two of the speech in the op and yeah, Trump is a creep and a subhuman, sure I can go with that.

 

[flexy]

someone yelled "rapist!"

Kids, don't ever do conservative... your brains will wither away if you do.

We're loooooooong over those people simply being "conservative". There once was a time where even conservatives where normal people albeit with different views. People who live and thrive off lies, fantasies and build their world views based on nutter sites like AJ etc IMHO cannot just be labeled "conservatives", this is on an entirely different level. Yes of course there was always a fine line even in the past, but does anyone remember, say Bush voters, Reagan voters etc. being outright crazy? I don't.

 

[DrDoug]

We're loooooooong over those people simply being "conservative". There once was a time where even conservatives where normal people albeit with different views. People who live and thrive off lies, fantasies and build their world views based on nutter sites like AJ etc IMHO cannot just be labeled "conservatives", this is on an entirely different level. Yes of course there was always a fine line even in the past, but does anyone remember, say Bush voters, Reagan voters etc. being outright crazy? I don't.

Moral Majority was just one group of crazies... I lived it, they were there and there were plenty of them, just that most of them were a bit more restrained with the dog whistles. That's the only difference, IMO.

 

[Bitek]

Really good speech.

She's been nothing but high class.

No matter who wins, the white house will be at a loss.

 

[DrDoug]

The press is needing more protection at Trump rallies...

Press at Trump evening rally getting escorted to motorcade under watch of cops in riot gear, per pool. This is getting increasingly scary.

— Seema Mehta (@LATSeema) October 14, 2016

You couldn't pay me to be there.

 

[Victorian Gray]

That's because the forum is rigged against you.

Now go put on your 2nd amendment panties.

In pink

 

[rockyct]

The press is needing more protection at Trump rallies...



You couldn't pay me to be there.

They are going to have to send in the embedded war reporters soon enough.

 

[bozack]

In your reply you advocated nothing, stood for nothing, and typed nothing but an empty ad hominem attack on me referencing "using things resembling actual arguments" while putting forth NONE yourself. Congratulations.

Relentlessly sounding the alarm against arguably the worst Presidential candidate ever and his horde of ugly-minded supporters is not bullshit. Trump is bullshit. And so was your petulant little post.

Typical Perk angst ridden reply laced with more insults than substance, so sad.

Hillary is a about as awful as they come and here you are advocating for someone that we have documented proof is quite possibly the most corrupt candidate in our history, but keep raging on with your weak clickbait style posts.

The sad thing about you is that you haven't figured out that America has already lost, this election and the candidates are a complete joke. I will be stunned if there isn't rioting in the streets regardless of who wins this thing.

 

[HomerJS]

Her lack of pride in her country speaks directly to how much credibility you should put in her opinions. It's pretty obvious she's not going to think highly of a white dude running for President given her statement of 8 years ago.

Because a white dude who has raped and sexually assaulted women is someone we all can be proud of electing. Great example Skippy.

 

[flexy]

Typical Perk angst ridden reply laced with more insults than substance, so sad.

Hillary is a about as awful as they come and here you are advocating for someone that we have documented proof is quite possibly the most corrupt candidate in our history, but keep raging on with your weak clickbait style posts.

The sad thing about you is that you haven't figured out that America has already lost, this election and the candidates are a complete joke. I will be stunned if there isn't rioting in the streets regardless of who wins this thing.

So I dug into your posting history a bit, just to see what you opinion on Sanders was.
So these two are a complete joke, and you didn't like Sanders either.
Uhm, sort of an odd basis for a debate then, isn't it?

Or are you just another Trump supporter just without the balls to openly admit it?

While I am not exactly "thrilled" with Hillary and for sure not with the orange monkey, America DID have a choice. They made their choice and nominated the monkey and Hillary. So, let them riot (yes, I do see riots coming as well REGARDLESS of the outcome), but of course it would be pathetic, sort-of.

 

[nageov3t]

The press is needing more protection at Trump rallies...



You couldn't pay me to be there.

I wonder what Trump's reaction would be if the press said they were going to stop covering his rallies.

 

[brycejones]

What, is she no longer "proud of her country for the first time"?

Another lame ass Glenn response.

 

[fskimospy]

Typical Perk angst ridden reply laced with more insults than substance, so sad.

Hillary is a about as awful as they come and here you are advocating for someone that we have documented proof is quite possibly the most corrupt candidate in our history, but keep raging on with your weak clickbait style posts.

The sad thing about you is that you haven't figured out that America has already lost, this election and the candidates are a complete joke. I will be stunned if there isn't rioting in the streets regardless of who wins this thing.

What's odd about this is that despite voluminous investigations of Clinton there is basically no evidence of significant corruption. Feel free to tell me how you think I'm wrong but I bet ahead of time that nearly every example you give will involve a boatload of innuendo without any 'documented proof' whatsoever.

I doubt there has ever been a clearer choice for president than this one.

 

[sportage]

Michelle Obama, "This is not normal. This is not politics as usual.

For us techies here on Anandtech, the translation:
Michelle Obama, "This does not compute. This does not compute."

 

[skyking]

"For the first time in my adult life, I am really proud of my country because it feels like hope is finally making a comeback,"

Yeah, that context.

Here's some context for you, Glenn
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democracy_Index

Ranking 20th in fully democratic nations, woohoo!
All you flag wavers need to step it up. The country could be great, but we as a nation keep shooting off a foot on many issues. That's the context I see, and her statement was accurate in that regard.

 

[Meghan54]

Michelle Obama, "This is not normal. This is not politics as usual.

For us techies here on Anandtech, the translation:
Michelle Obama, "This does not compute. This does not compute."

Actually, your "translation" is misguided and actually belittles what Michelle Obama was talking about.

Michelle is saying that the attempts by the Trump fanatics to normalize sexual assault are despicable and what Trump brags about...kissing women without consent...is not normal no matter how much Trumpettes try to normalize the behavior by dismissing it as "locker room banter".

 

[Jhhnn]

Actually, your "translation" is misguided and actually belittles what Michelle Obama was talking about.

Michelle is saying that the attempts by the Trump fanatics to normalize sexual assault are despicable and what Trump brags about...kissing women without consent...is not normal no matter how much Trumpettes try to normalize the behavior by dismissing it as "locker room banter".

Meh. Letting it wander off into whether specific allegations are true or not just allows wiggle room & misses the point entirely.

Trump's own words reveal that he's a sexist creep.

 

[echo4747]

What's odd about this is that despite voluminous investigations of Clinton there is basically no evidence of significant corruption. Feel free to tell me how you think I'm wrong but I bet ahead of time that nearly every example you give will involve a boatload of innuendo without any 'documented proof' whatsoever.

I doubt there has ever been a clearer choice for president than this one.

significant corruption? too subjective a term

 

[Perknose]

Meh. Letting it wander off into whether specific allegations are true or not just allows wiggle room & misses the point entirely.

Trump's own words reveal that he's a sexist creep.

Sure. Nevertheless, Meghan nailed her message exactly, imho:

Michelle is saying that the attempts by the Trump fanatics to normalize sexual assault are despicable and what Trump brags about...kissing women without consent...is not normal no matter how much Trumpettes try to normalize the behavior by dismissing it as "locker room banter".

His behavior is not normal. Opposing him, doing all we can to prevent him ascending to the Presidency does transcend mere politics in that it is not "merely" a matter of opposing his BS political positions, it is a matter of standing up against the entirely reprehensible pig of a person himself.

 

[fskimospy]

significant corruption? too subjective a term

It's an inherently subjective topic. Regardless I challenge people to list the 'documented cases of corruption' for Clinton and then actually look all the way into them. As John Oliver put it, there's plenty of cases where things look bad on the surface but the deeper you go the less you find.

 

[Perknose]

significant corruption? too subjective a term

Ok, sure. Let's get legally specific. Hers is misfeasance and not malfeasance.

As FBI Director James Comey, a life-long Republican, put it regarding e-mail-gate, the one "controversy" surrounding Hillary Clinton with any substance at all:

While some believe Clinton benefited from a double standard, Comey said, "You know what would be a double standard? If she were prosecuted for gross negligence."

In determining whether to apply the statute for the second time since 1917, he said, "You have to decide, 'Do I treat this person against that record? And if I do, is that a fair thing to do?' ... No reasonable prosecutor would do that. That would be celebrity hunting. That will be treating this person differently than John Doe."

 

[glenn1]

Here's some context for you, Glenn
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democracy_Index

Ranking 20th in fully democratic nations, woohoo!
All you flag wavers need to step it up. The country could be great, but we as a nation keep shooting off a foot on many issues. That's the context I see, and her statement was accurate in that regard.

Considering that her husband has been terrible on civil liberties and that's a major category of that index she probably isn't proud of her country anymore and rightfully so. No trial executions via drone strike on citizens anyone? NSA evesdropping on every citizen?

http://www.mailtribune.com/article/...3/op-ed-obama-devastating-for-civil-liberties

 

[skyking]

No argument from me, Glenn. None at all. Partisan bullshit is by no means one sided either.
"They did it first" leads to a whole lot of embarrassing crap going on. That's how the US got to #20. this is not a dig, just an example. Gerrymandering. In response the dems do something equally deplorable.
The rest of the free countries get to point and laugh.

 

[MajinCry]

The whole "America is the greatest country on Earth" mantra is a pretty...Insular opinion.

A history of intense racism, the genocide of an entire race that numbered tens (~150) of millions people (Native Americans), dictionary-defention capitalist healthcare, invading other countries (e.g, Vietnam, Nicaragua), overthrowing democracies and installing dictators (e.g, Chile, Iraq), mediocre education system, blatant soldier worship, jingoism...Err...

America has a long way to go, and the last person you want to spearhead that effort is a blithering, rapacious old coot of a molester.

As for a proper "world's greatest" country, I 'unno...Finland? The Nordic countries are the sanest ones around.

 

[Jaskalas]

Sure. Nevertheless, Meghan nailed her message exactly, imho:

Michelle is saying that the attempts by the Trump fanatics to normalize sexual assault are despicable and what Trump brags about...kissing women without consent...is not normal no matter how much Trumpettes try to normalize the behavior by dismissing it as "locker room banter".

Thing is... whatever you are accusing Trump of here, Mr. "Best President Evah!" Clinton did, and Hillary stood by and was, in that way, complicit. Let's grant your point here, but no matter who wins both parties are putting a predator back in the White House.

Are not Democrats "normalize sexual assault" by supporting the Clintons?