Michael Moore predicts a Trump win....and I'm

[bruceb]

The FBI is probing more of the Clinton Emails ... This story is far from done.

 

[flexy]

Let's just put it this way and then leave it. Hillary wants to turn this country into a Socialist style, similar to how things are done in Canada, the UK and many other areas. I personally do not this country is ready for that. And no, I am not suicidal, but will fight if forced to.

So you're afraid of "socialist style" but are all AH-TOTALLY-FINE with corporates bending you over?

Walmart holding food drives for their OWN FUCKING EMPLOYEES...you think this is normal?
The employees of the richest fucking clan (Walton clan) in America..starving and not being able to afford Thanksgiving? Totally oh-ok?
Comcast etc. being against Net Neutrality, so they can hike prices and offer shit service? You want this?
AT&T and TW merging and forming giant monopolis, so they can dictate prices...OK with you?
Corporate X having literally ANY freedom to move jobs to China...AND stash their profits in the Cayman Islands....IS FULLY OK with you?
This is why you poor fucks need "a little socialism", because "the people" get fucked over yet don't even know it.

Who else do you think would show these guys limits if not the gvt with laws. Do you understand WHY regulations and "socialism" would actually be what's needed in America?

 

[Vic]

I and a lot of people I know, will be voting for Donald J. Trump ... We are all pro 2nd amendment advocates and do no trust or like Hillary or her potential disaster for this country.

This is why we need more civics education. The President has almost zero authority with regards to the 2a. He/she could no more take away your guns than the SCOTUS could "overturn" Roe v Wade. Also, Trump and Hillary have almost the same position on gun control, ie they both support "No fly, no buy."
But hey, you just go on buying what they're selling.

 

[Vic]

The NRA has been very effective in getting a substantial amount of people to believe that the sky is perpetually falling.

The NRA is just a GOP front. They have repeatedly endorsed GOP candidates who support some form of gun control over Libertarian candidates who don't.

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

They have not got any of mine. Just picked up a Beretta M9A3 Pistol 9mm and a Ruger Precision Rifle in 6.5 Creedmoor caliber. We are ready.

go get 'em tiger

 

[Vic]

How do you feel about the 1st, 4th, 5th, and 14th amendments? The Trump and Reps don't much care for them.

Trump is openly opposed to the 1st and 14th amendments in ways that are quite unsettling IMO. His ongoing calls for government control of the media should be disturbing to anyone.

 

[Vic]

Let's just put it this way and then leave it. Hillary wants to turn this country into a Socialist style, similar to how things are done in Canada, the UK and many other areas. I personally do not this country is ready for that. And no, I am not suicidal, but will fight if forced to.

What a crock of shit.

 

[MrSquished]

Brexit comparison is silly since the issue there was voter-turnout, and no-one seriously saw a Brexit possible so there was no sense of urgency to vote.

In this case, I THINK/HOPE that enough people are freaked out enough that they go voting upon the thought that Trump COULD become president, even with a dislike for Hillary.

I am still holding hope that the majority of the US is *not* your typical Trump-Neanderthal, respective I KNOW THIS (the US is not Bumfuck/AL, thankfully)...it will come down to whether these people go and vote.

Also, Moore is of course entirely correct in what he is saying, what pisses me off is the idiocy of (most) Trump supporters who are UNABLE to see the context here and why he said what he said and now re-posting this basically claiming Moore would be supporting Trump.

Edit: I am talking about his "Biggest F*ck You in History Speech Video"

I think that it is exactly the same issue as Brexit. Hilary voters aren't nearly as passionate overall as crazy Trump supporters. The polls here are showing a Hilary win so many may not see a Trump win as possible and may stay home on election day. Voter turnout is exactly my concern.

 

[Aikouka]

Right. And remember how the very same people said Obama was coming to take your guns and that turned out to be a lie?

Have you considered that the same people who lied to you before are lying to you now?

How else would the NRA make money if it wasn't for abusing people's fear of losing their firearms? My dad signed me up for a life membership many years ago, and I get their pleas at least once every month (along with their heavily slanted magazine). They constantly try to sign you up for some new, advanced sort of life membership, and it's usually noted as being necessary to fight against the evil, liberal Washington.

 

[flexy]

I think that it is exactly the same issue as Brexit. Hilary voters aren't nearly as passionate overall as crazy Trump supporters. The polls here are showing a Hilary win so many may not see a Trump win as possible and may stay home on election day. Voter turnout is exactly my concern.

To be honest I myself am not sure what to think about Moore's "fear mongering" there. On one hand this argument may be solid, but then there is also reason to believe that Dem turnout this time around can be high. At least according to polls and early voter results, from what I see.
I am pretty "confident" that there will be high Latino turnout, for example, for obvious reasons...

 

[Thebobo]

Think I am going to go to the hospital and see if they can induce me into a Coma until the 9th. And If trump win just keep me there.

 

[Thump553]

He's saying what I've been saying all along, the Trump phenomenon is not brought about by agreements with his policies and positions. Much of America is absolutely disgusted with DC on both the left and the right and Trump is the vehicle to burn it to the ground. He's not pc and not a politician and that's the only thing that matters. It just so happens that the GOP ticket was the delivery mechanism, but it could have just as easily occurred on the Dem side.

This is the most logical reason I have heard to vote for Trump. But if you actually want Trump to win then be prepared to accept the consequences of empowering a burn-it-down leader. As a practical matter you should kiss goodbye any social security, medicare, etc. that you hope to receive ten years or more down the line. Kiss goodbye your savings (unless you have them in a safe foreign currency), your equity in your home and quite likely your job and/or income. For that, and so much more, is what will happen when you burn down the USA. We have all grown up under the illusion that the USA is eternal-no country is. Trump could give two f*cks about the Constitution, he's all about power. If Trump is elected President it is my firm belief that the USA will have two or three decades until it completely collapses. And good luck getting him (or his hand-picked successors) out of power once they get their hands on it.

A vote to install Trump in power is about the stupidest thing anyone who actually believes in America could do. It totally mystifies me that any USA citizen could possibly feel they would be better off with our country destroyed, much less actively support someone who would do so. Look at the whole picture.

 

[zinfamous]

That is the way she wants it. And it will not happen unless they get control of the House and Senate along with the White House.
I am voting for Trump and you are entitled to your opinion.

why aren't you already up in arms to defend this country against the tyranny of medicare, social security, public education, our national transit system, public water distribution, and various other anti-liberty socialist machinations?

 

[Indus]

why aren't you already up in arms to defend this country against the tyranny of medicare, social security, public education, our national transit system, public water distribution, and various other anti-liberty socialist machinations?

Yeah lets break our highway system too since that's socialism.

 

[theeedude]

American global leadership is done if Trump wins. Bush undermined it, Trump will finish it for good. How do you sell democracy globally if it produces this sort of result in the US? We will be the laughing stock around the world. There is a reason Putin is going all out to help elect Trump.

 

[Muse]

He's saying what I've been saying all along, the Trump phenomenon is not brought about by agreements with his policies and positions. Much of America is absolutely disgusted with DC on both the left and the right and Trump is the vehicle to burn it to the ground. He's not pc and not a politician and that's the only thing that matters. It just so happens that the GOP ticket was the delivery mechanism, but it could have just as easily occurred on the Dem side.

If this is all true you may as well bulldoze the USA into the dump right now, there's no hope of a moral/spiritual recovery. We'll see in 12 days.

 

[yllus]

I don't know if someone has mentioned this, but polls were indicating a tight victory / tie for Brexit right before the vote.

 

[momeNt]

Famous Yogi Berra-isms "Nobody goes there, it's too crowded".

 

[werepossum]

He's saying what I've been saying all along, the Trump phenomenon is not brought about by agreements with his policies and positions. Much of America is absolutely disgusted with DC on both the left and the right and Trump is the vehicle to burn it to the ground. He's not pc and not a politician and that's the only thing that matters. It just so happens that the GOP ticket was the delivery mechanism, but it could have just as easily occurred on the Dem side.

Sometimes you really want to burn something down, but the torch is just too nasty to pick up. Just sayin' . . .

Lots of people are predicting a Trump victory based on enthusiasm for the candidate. I think they are missing the boat. Today, voting is largely based on enthusiasm against the candidate; it's all about selecting the lesser evil. I think a lot of people are going to be surprised at the level of turnout, and when turnout is high, the Dems usually win. They simply own the unenthusiastic, unmotivated, low information voting pool.

 

[IronWing]

Let's just put it this way and then leave it. Hillary wants to turn this country into a Socialist style, similar to how things are done in Canada, the UK and many other areas. I personally do not this country is ready for that. And no, I am not suicidal, but will fight if forced to.

Clinton's positions on most issues are in alignment with Bush Sr.'s and to the right of Reagan. A socialist she ain't.

 

[Victorian Gray]

Let's just put it this way and then leave it. Hillary wants to turn this country into a Socialist style, similar to how things are done in Canada, the UK and many other areas. I personally do not this country is ready for that. And no, I am not suicidal, but will fight if forced to.

No she doesn't and no, you won't.

 

[agent00f]

Moore is basically doing this as a GOTV using a form of reverse psychology.

 

[RichUK]

It will be awesome if Trump wins.

 

[MrSquished]

Yeah I was very worried about it.

 

[rudder]

The same things were said about Obama and he had control of the House and Senate. America did not become a socialist nation. As with the gun issue, the people who claimed that then were lying to you. What makes you think they aren't lying to you now?

Hillary was very clear about her stance on guns, because it is a 2nd amendment issue, any legislation would ultimately need the Supreme Court. Obama was not able to over come the 5-4 pro 2A Supreme Court. Until Scalia died...no one gave it a second thought. The next president would get one pick off the bat and likely at least two more before their term was up.

Hillary has every intention of filling not only the Supreme Court with progressives, but also many of the vacancies in the lower courts. Voters see through her bullshit when she goes on tv and says she would be a president for all Americans.

The 2A does not say much. Many of the rights such as owning semi auto rifles with 30 rounds magazines are a result of the supreme courts interpretation of the second amendment. It would not take much for the court to revisit those decisions and strip rights away.