Michael Moore predicts a Trump win....and I'm

[MrSquished]

Hillary was very clear about her stance on guns, because it is a 2nd amendment issue, any legislation would ultimately need the Supreme Court. Obama was not able to over come the 5-4 pro 2A Supreme Court. Until Scalia died...no one gave it a second thought. The next president would get one pick off the bat and likely at least two more before their term was up.

Hillary has every intention of filling not only the Supreme Court with progressives, but also many of the vacancies in the lower courts. Voters see through her bullshit when she goes on tv and says she would be a president for all Americans.

The 2A does not say much. Many of the rights such as owning semi auto rifles with 30 rounds magazines are a result of the supreme courts interpretation of the second amendment. It would not take much for the court to revisit those decisions and strip rights away.

Paranoid much? The right has been deadly paranoid afraid for 8 years that Obama was going to come take ALL the guns away. Like literally come and take all the guns away. He never even made a move towards that. So fucking pathetically sad by the right, but they have no shame. Under Hillary the most likely legislative attempt would be for universal background checks. There is an off chance she would come after 'assault' style guns. That's it. The rest is gravy. Fuck right wing gun nut liars.

 

[KeepMoving]

Michael Moore was right. BLM, LGBTQ movement, and the war on cops all helped moved everything red.

 

[Indus]

Michael Moore was right. BLM, LGBTQ movement, and the war on cops all helped moved everything red.

I don't think its LGBTQ since Trump is pro LGBTQ. I think its just a mass rejection of establishment and sucking up and doing what's right for wall street and ignoring wall street.

He's only picking up the hardcore blue states where jobs went overseas due to NAFTA

 

[tcsenter]

He's only picking up the hardcore blue states where jobs went overseas due to NAFTA

Except that they didn't. More jobs eliminated from technology than from offshoring. Most of the jobs lost don't exist anymore, anywhere. And those states still falling for the Siren song that some Messiah is going to bring them back.

 

[MrSquished]

have you seen the Republican Platform on LGBQ positions? It's disgraceful. Anyway, all of that is just noise.

The fact is we had a Brexit effect here. And that effect fucked us.

 

[Bitek]

Moore is far more clever than he gets credit for.

Bill Maher has been screaming the same thing all year.

Too many of the left laughed Trump off as a joke and didn't take the threat seriously.

Complacency and hubris has struck.

 

[WhipperSnapper]

Michael Moore had a pretty good pulse on the sentiments of the electorate in the states where it counted, apparently Gotta give him credit. I think he's right about why Trump won - it's less about people liking Trump and more about disliking Hillary and the Establishment and wanting to deliver a big FU to them. If Bernie Sanders had been the candidate, he probably would have rolled trump.

 

[1prophet]

Except that they didn't. More jobs eliminated from technology than from offshoring. Most of the jobs lost don't exist anymore, anywhere. And those states still falling for the Siren song that some Messiah is going to bring them back.

Bullshit, show me the technology that competes with the garment maker in Bangladesh making $90 dollars a MONTH or all the products at Walmart "largest retailer" made by technology in the USA cheaper than in China.

All this supposed technology and Apple as well as other electronics manufacturing have much of their products assembled by human beings in factories with suicide nets because of the working conditions, haven't seen too many robots jumping off the rooftops at Foxconn yet.

 

[KB]

Bullshit, show me the technology that competes with the garment maker in Bangladesh making $90 dollars a MONTH or all the products at Walmart "largest retailer" made by technology in the USA cheaper than in China.

Heres some stories detailing the job elimination from technology.

Competes with garment maker:
http://www.textileworld.com/textile...of-robotic-automation-in-the-sewing-industry/
http://www.industryweek.com/compani...cturer-battled-its-way-back-bankruptcy-growth

Cheaper than China:
http://www.chicagotribune.com/busin...s-manufacturing-0527-biz-20160526-column.html
http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/2015/02/09/bcg-report-on-factory-robots/23143259/

Made for Walmart cheaper than China
http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-manufacturing-jobs-lost-20160811-snap-story.html

 

[tcsenter]

Bullshit, show me the technology that competes with the garment maker in Bangladesh making $90 dollars a MONTH or all the products at Walmart "largest retailer" made by technology in the USA cheaper than in China.

Really you're going to use the textile and garment industry jobs as your example? Garment industry has always been exploitative labor in the USA like farm labor there was never any golden age when most garment workers made good wages and benefits. Not too many people are "missing" those jobs and clinging to hope they will "come back".

 

[werepossum]

Except that they didn't. More jobs eliminated from technology than from offshoring. Most of the jobs lost don't exist anymore, anywhere. And those states still falling for the Siren song that some Messiah is going to bring them back.

Amazing how prosperous Red China has grown on those non-existent jobs.

 

[tcsenter]

Amazing how prosperous Red China has grown on those non-existent jobs.

NAFTA had no hand in that, anyway. China's economy in no small part is attributable to how cheaply things could be done in China. Triple the price or cost to the consumer and there would be much lower demand. Can you see Americans doing that work for $8 or $9 per hour? They already have to import migrant workers to do those things IN THE USA.