Michael Jordan admits to racism.

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Rakehellion

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So, according to racists there are no mulattos?

And everyone who is using the terms black and white are either racist savages or hypocrites?

The guy who says "I don't care what racists say" while using slang terms to refer to someone's skin color us a hypocrite.
 

MasterOfUsers

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The guy who says "I don't care what racists say" while using slang terms to refer to someone's skin color us a hypocrite.

This will be my last reply in this discussion since i don't think it's being done with honest intention on your part (no one is this stupid).

Black and white are slang words? What words do you suggest i use then?

I would say that these are common speech words and not slang, have been since before the US existed.
 

Rakehellion

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This will be my last reply in this discussion since i don't think it's being done with honest intention on your part (no one is this stupid).

So you ask questions, but let it be known that you don't want them answered? Keep your passive-aggressive status updates on Facebook.

Black and white are slang words? What words do you suggest i use then?

You said Obama is half white. He isn't, he's black. It would be more accurate to say he's half caucasian/anglo/German/Irish/etc. White is a color, not a genetic inheritance.

I would say that these are common speech words and not slang, have been since before the US existed.

Slang is common speech. I don't know what you're getting at here.

If you use [color of the rainbow] as a descriptor of a person's lineage, you're using convenient slang, not scientific terminology.
 

Fern

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The Klan were so prominent in the town where Jordan lived they sponsored Little League teams.
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If you read the article closely I think you'll see Jordon was referring to his grandfather's days in that town, not his own.

I don't believe the Klan had any significant existence during his childhood, much less sponsoring any teams.

Fern
 

classy

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http://www.nbcnews.com/pop-culture/...-racism-i-was-against-all-white-people-n98971

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/photo/p...ent-after-racial-slur-controversy-f6C10548868

Its kinda messed up that Paula Deen was figuratively burned at the stake, but Jordan will suffer no consequence.
I am not saying anyone individually is to blame. I think both Paula Deen and Jordan are good people and not racist at heart. It's just frustrating how two innocent honest comments by each person can be twisted depending on how the media wants to shape it, and how we react.

Your analogy is stupid. He was a teenager. What moron would equate some judgement against how a person thought as a teenager.
 

classy

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If you read the article closely I think you'll see Jordon was referring to his grandfather's days in that town, not his own.

I don't believe the Klan had any significant existence during his childhood, much less sponsoring any teams.

Fern

In 1977 there was still heavy influence from the klan.
 
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If you read the article closely I think you'll see Jordon was referring to his grandfather's days in that town, not his own.

I don't believe the Klan had any significant existence during his childhood, much less sponsoring any teams.

Fern

Really?

just before to just after he was born:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ku_Klux_Klan#Later_Klans.2C_1950_through_1960s

1970's to the present:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ku_Klux_Klan#Contemporary_Klan:_1970s.E2.80.93present

A history in pictures, note the number from the 60's and 70's and 80's

(Edit: oops, forgot the link)

http://www.anorak.co.uk/342281/keyp...pictures-racism-civil-rights-and-murder.html/
 
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1prophet

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So you ask questions, but let it be known that you don't want them answered? Keep your passive-aggressive status updates on Facebook.



You said Obama is half white. He isn't, he's black. It would be more accurate to say he's half caucasian/anglo/German/Irish/etc. White is a color, not a genetic inheritance.



Slang is common speech. I don't know what you're getting at here.

If you use [color of the rainbow] as a descriptor of a person's lineage, you're using convenient slang, not scientific terminology.


White is a race according to the US government just as black is, so saying Obama is half white, half black is technically correct.
http://www.census.gov/prod/cen2010/briefs/c2010br-02.pdf
Definition of Race Categories Used in the 2010 Census

“White” refers to a person having origins in any of the original peoples
of Europe, the Middle East, or North Africa. It includes people who indicated their race(s) as “White” or reported entries such as Irish, German,
Italian, Lebanese, Arab, Moroccan, or Caucasian.


“Black or African American” refers to a person having origins in any of
the Black racial groups of Africa. It includes people who indicated their
race(s) as “Black, African Am., or Negro” or reported entries such as
African American, Kenyan, Nigerian, or Haitian.


“American Indian or Alaska Native” refers to a person having origins in
any of the original peoples of North and South America (including
Central America) and who maintains tribal affiliation or community
attachment. This category includes people who indicated their race(s)
as “American Indian or Alaska Native” or reported their enrolled or principal tribe, such as Navajo, Blackfeet, Inupiat, Yup’ik, or Central
American Indian groups or South American Indian groups.



“Asian” refers to a person having origins in any of the original peoples
of the Far East, Southeast Asia, or the Indian subcontinent, including,
for example, Cambodia, China, India, Japan, Korea, Malaysia, Pakistan,
the Philippine Islands, Thailand, and Vietnam. It includes people who
indicated their race(s) as “Asian” or reported entries such as “Asian
Indian,” “Chinese,” “Filipino,” “Korean,” “Japanese,” “Vietnamese,” and
“Other Asian” or provided other detailed Asian responses.


“Native Hawaiian or Other Pacific Islander” refers to a person having
origins in any of the original peoples of Hawaii, Guam, Samoa, or other
Pacific Islands. It includes people who indicated their race(s) as “Pacific
Islander” or reported entries such as “Native Hawaiian,” “Guamanian or
Chamorro,” “Samoan,” and “Other Pacific Islander” or provided other
detailed Pacific Islander responses.


“Some Other Race” includes all other responses not included in the
White, Black or African American, American Indian or Alaska Native,
Asian, and Native Hawaiian or Other Pacific Islander race categories
described above. Respondents reporting entries such as multiracial,
mixed, interracial, or a Hispanic or Latino group (for example, Mexican,
Puerto Rican, Cuban, or Spanish) in response to the race question are
included in this category
 

Rakehellion

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Rakehellion

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Scroll down to
6 Usage in the United States

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caucasian_race#Usage_in_the_United_States

Then click the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_in_the_United_States

And your back to 1prophet's point

"Besides its use in anthropology and related fields, the term "Caucasian" has often been used in the United States in a different, social context to describe a group commonly called "White people".[37] "White" also appears as a self-reporting entry in the U.S. Census.[38]"

This doesn't contradict anything I've said.
 

Orignal Earl

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"Besides its use in anthropology and related fields, the term "Caucasian" has often been used in the United States in a different, social context to describe a group commonly called "White people".[37] "White" also appears as a self-reporting entry in the U.S. Census.[38]"

This doesn't contradict anything I've said.

I best leave this up to you guys
I seen how so many here believed the media made up the term *White Hispanic*
The whole thing just left me confused
 

waggy

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who fucking cares. I don't care Jordan thought or said anything that long ago. Just as i don't give a shit paula dean said the n word 20 something years ago and forced to admit it under oath.

both were at a different time in their lives and a different time in the US.

Paula shouldn't have had the witch hunt against her and NOTHING should happen to MG
 
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Meanwhile al sharpton the racist has his own (barely watched) tv show. He's smart though, he preaches his racism under the guise of "hope and giving back to the community"
 

Rakehellion

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Meanwhile al sharpton the racist has his own (barely watched) tv show. He's smart though, he preaches his racism under the guise of "hope and giving back to the community"

WHAT THE FUCK does Al Sharpton have to do with Michael Jordan? The fact that they're both black?
 

mikeymikec

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who fucking cares. I don't care Jordan thought or said anything that long ago. Just as i don't give a shit paula dean said the n word 20 something years ago and forced to admit it under oath.

both were at a different time in their lives and a different time in the US.

Paula shouldn't have had the witch hunt against her and NOTHING should happen to MG

I'm wondering whether you prefer to limit your grasp of the situation surrounding her as "she only said the n word 20 years ago" rather than what it actually was, because the last time you trotted out your opinion of her, I responded with this:

http://forums.anandtech.com/showpost.php?p=36325408&postcount=107

What I posted wasn't even the full situation.
 
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