Michael Cohen will testify to House Oversight Feb 7 about his work for Trump

[cytg111]

So where's the proof? Certainly the personal layer of Trump for 10 years, who had already broken confidentiality, would have some of it existed, no?

PERSONALLY, I know, when I decide to rob a bank, the first person I tell is my lawyer - so he can be ready if I get busted. I dont know how yall roll, thats just me.

 

[cytg111]

Then where's the convictions? Where's the Dems spine to impeach?

Ghost. That's where.

They are gonna turn this shitshow into a gigantic sea of feces ... Right now dems are helping you destroy the GOP forever... Can you blame them? You dont get it? Impeachment would be a blessing for the GOP right now.
The Cohen hearing was a wonderful show. As was Kavanaugh. Shit on shit on shit on shit for the GOP... happy drowning in shit. Shit.

 

[soulcougher73]

Sounds about right.

 

[fskimospy]

PERSONALLY, I know, when I decide to rob a bank, the first person I tell is my lawyer - so he can be ready if I get busted. I dont know how yall roll, thats just me.

Also to be clear I'm not aware of any cases where Michael Cohen broke attorney-client privilege. The basic issue is that he wasn't doing much legal work for Trump, he was just threatening people, paying people off, etc. None of that is protected.

 

[blackangst1]

LoL @blackangst1 hammering on that collusion word, just like Trump.

For those of us who can read, including blackangst1, here's a link to the Special Councils Directive:

https://www.justice.gov/opa/press-release/file/967231/download

And 28 C.F.R. § 600.4(a) can be found here:

https://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/28/600.4

And 28 C.F.R. § 600

https://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/28/part-600

The word collusion isn't mentioned. But since someone can't seem to get his head around it:

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/collusion



Pretty much sums up how the Trump campaign interacted with a foreign nation. Including many lies to cover it up.

I want aware getting dirt on an opponent for the purpose of winning an election was illegal. Learn something new every day!

 

[fskimospy]

Sounds about right.
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Jim Jordan, one of the main clowns from that hearing, is on the record stating he has NEVER heard Trump tell a lie.

I'm not kidding.

lol.

https://www.cleveland.com/metro/index.ssf/2018/04/jim_jordan_says_donald_trump_d.html

 

[blackangst1]

Do all conservatives think that calling Cohen a liar because he lied to Congress and to the FBI and to the Special Council, in defense of Trump (so, accepting that he lied about Trump not committing certain crimes, means that Trump did commit those crimes), and so he therefore can not be trusted when he is deal-bound to tell the truth about those crimes...is some kind of good argument?

Is this what all conservatives are clinging to, or just the idiots in here and in Congress?

I for one know Trump has committed campaign finance violations.

 

[fskimospy]

I want aware getting dirt on an opponent for the purpose of winning an election was illegal. Learn something new every day!

Yes, being given dirt on an opponent by a foreign government is very, very illegal. In fact it is a felony.

 

[ch33zw1z]

I want aware getting dirt on an opponent for the purpose of winning an election was illegal. Learn something new every day!

It's good to learn. Good job. Context is important. Timelines are important. What's transpired between parties is important.

And, if you want to learn even more, read the short directive letter I linked. The possibilities are bigly.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

Also to be clear I'm not aware of any cases where Michael Cohen broke attorney-client privilege. The basic issue is that he wasn't doing much legal work for Trump, he was just threatening people, paying people off, etc. None of that is protected.

Sort of regarding this, I heard last night that Cohen saying the President dictated the letter about Jr's meeting with the Russians were true the Presidents current Lawyers can be summoned and attorney/client privilege does not apply regarding that matter. The Presidents current attorneys may be summoned to ask what they know about who generated that letter and they can be held liable if they do not speak the truth.

 

[cytg111]

I want aware getting dirt on an opponent for the purpose of winning an election was illegal. Learn something new every day!

Here is your proof
https://www.amazon.com/Proof-Collusion-Trump-Betrayed-America/dp/1982116080

Of course feel free to turn this into another "Indictments, any day now" thread .. That worked so gooooood the last time hahahahahahahahahahahaa haha

 

[Fanatical Meat]

I want aware getting dirt on an opponent for the purpose of winning an election was illegal. Learn something new every day!

I'm being serious with this question. Do you really want to live in a World where lets say Republican team with Russia to get dirt on opponents and Democrats team with China to get dirt on opponents?

Edit:
Last year you appeared to agree that there was Russian involvement and it appeared you did not like it happening. What has changed since last year?

https://forums.anandtech.com/threads/mueller-indicts-russians.2537631/page-14#post-39310706

 

[VRAMdemon]

This Cohen is a scumbag, He cries about missing out on his lovely wife and beautiful kids - But he was perfectly willing to cozy up to scumbags like Trump and some other nasty SOBs which, by his own actions placed his family at risk. As for the Republican whining that Cohen lying...It's possible...BUT So far, he’s claimed :

1. That he believes rumors of a videotape that show Trump hitting Melania are false and he does not believe the tape exists. He does not believe Mr. Trump would ever hit his wife.

2. To his knowledge, Trump has never urged any woman to get an abortion, or pay for any medical procedure for any woman.

3. Rumors of Trump having a love child are false

4. That he never went to Prague and while he made a trip to Europe in 2016 he did not meet with any Russians or conduct any Trump business.

He’s not sounding like a guy that’s lying his ass off to “get” Trump. He missed too many opportunities. So..Most likely his entire testimony is credible. Part of what makes it credible is that he’s not trying to gratuitously smear Trump. Not once did Cohen take the bait offered by the Republican clown car. His answers were direct, no more or less than they needed to be, and he was clearly in control of his temper. He was decently spoken.

With Cohen saying, (paraphrased) 'Don't believe me. Look at the documents and decide for yourself.' that's a good reply to someone who is calling you a liar. The commitee member who said (to Cohen) "My colleagues across the aisle aren't worried that you're lying. They're worried that you're telling the truth". Spot on

 

[brandonbull]

Yup, Mueller is the BENGHAZI!!! portion of the investigation & Cohen/Trumps legal & ethical problems will be “But Her Email!”
Reap what you sow.
Uranium One will be the next step.

You should ask James Baker about the "buttery" emails.

 

[soulcougher73]

He’s not sounding like a guy that’s lying his ass off to “get” Trump. He missed too many opportunities. So..Most likely his entire testimony is credible. Part of what makes it credible is that he’s not trying to gratuitously smear Trump. Not once did Cohen take the bait offered by the Republican clown car. His answers were direct, no more or less than they needed to be, and he was clearly in control of his temper. He was decently spoken.

Guess that rules him out for an future GOP nominated SCJ spots....

 

[ch33zw1z]

Here is your proof
https://www.amazon.com/Proof-Collusion-Trump-Betrayed-America/dp/1982116080

Of course feel free to turn this into another "Indictments, any day now" thread .. That worked so gooooood the last time hahahahahahahahahahahaa haha

Yeah, @boomerang was so confident

 

[kage69]

Kinda reminds me of WW2 when we had the mob protecting ports and weeding out nazi agents, or helping with invasion plans in Italy.

Sure they were goons and criminals, but they were also American and had a desire to protect the country where they had set up shop and raised families. Cohen falls into this group IMO.

I'm really looking forward to Allen Weisselberg's turn at the mic, and what's not to enjoy about watching incensed republicans continuously step on rakes.

 

[trenchfoot]

Jim Jordan, one of the main clowns from that hearing, is on the record stating he has NEVER heard Trump tell a lie.

I'm not kidding.

lol.

https://www.cleveland.com/metro/index.ssf/2018/04/jim_jordan_says_donald_trump_d.html

Then I guess he must be completely deaf when it comes to "hearing" Trump's lies, but I'm certain he must have read a couple hundred thousand of Trump's lies from his most treasured signed copy of the fiction and fantasy book "The Art of the Deal".

 

[HomerJS]

Kinda reminds me of WW2 when we had the mob protecting ports and weeding out nazi agents, or helping with invasion plans in Italy.

Sure they were goons and criminals, but they were also American and had a desire to protect the country where they had set up shop and raised families. Cohen falls into this group IMO.

I'm really looking forward to Allen Weisselberg's turn at the mic, and what's not to enjoy about watching incensed republicans continuously step on rakes.

How are the Republicans going to trash Weisselberg? They made no effort to defend Trump because everything they said about Cohen applied to him.

This hearing may be better then Cohen.

 

[fskimospy]

Then I guess he must be completely deaf when it comes to "hearing" Trump's lies, but I'm certain he must have read a couple hundred thousand of Trump's lies from his most treasured signed copy of the fiction and fantasy book "The Art of the Deal".

It's just embarrassing really. I don't know why people like him make such comically obvious, embarrassing lies.

 

[Jhhnn]

It's just embarrassing really. I don't know why people like him make such comically obvious, embarrassing lies.

Because it sells in his gerrymandered to Hell & gone district.

 

[trenchfoot]

It's just embarrassing really. I don't know why people like him make such comically obvious, embarrassing lies.

Repubs have been doubling/tripling that in defense of Trump and party in direct proportion to the increasing depth of trouble they're getting themselves in from, as we all know it - defending Trump's incompetence and malfeasance, their give-away's to the wealthy and their attempted take-away's from the middle class and the poor.

 

[trenchfoot]

Kinda reminds me of WW2 when we had the mob protecting ports and weeding out nazi agents, or helping with invasion plans in Italy.

Sure they were goons and criminals, but they were also American and had a desire to protect the country where they had set up shop and raised families. Cohen falls into this group IMO.

I'm really looking forward to Allen Weisselberg's turn at the mic, and what's not to enjoy about watching incensed republicans continuously step on rakes.

The Repubs just love to play that increasingly popular game they created for themselves called "Backfire, The Derp Edition". It comes complete with reverse firing shotguns, pistols whose bullets reliably ricochet back a 180 degrees and slingshots that have bands that break off at the posts whenever stretched to their maximum extent.

 

[blackangst1]

I'm being serious with this question. Do you really want to live in a World where lets say Republican team with Russia to get dirt on opponents and Democrats team with China to get dirt on opponents?

Edit:
Last year you appeared to agree that there was Russian involvement and it appeared you did not like it happening. What has changed since last year?

https://forums.anandtech.com/threads/mueller-indicts-russians.2537631/page-14#post-39310706

No, and nothing has changed. Regarding the linked post, that was regarding Russia's playing puppet master to the American people.

 

[Ichinisan]

It is really tiresome for conservatives to try and blame liberals for Trump.

Who gives a fuck if Clinton is bad at running for President. The people to blame for trump are entirely the people who voted for him. Ie: conservatives. Place your blame on them, and them alone.

Based on my anecdotal observations, many people who typically vote Democrat voted for Trump. Especially the "reality" TV watching types. He really should have lost. He definitely would have lost if he didn't get those votes.

It was amusing to know that some left-leaning people I know voted for Trump. I decided before the primaries that there was absolutely no way I would ever vote for Trump -- so I didn't.