Michael Cohen will testify to House Oversight Feb 7 about his work for Trump

[JSt0rm]

When did I ever deny that asshole?

look at this useful idiot. look.

 

[dank69]

When did I ever deny that asshole?

You just said Democrats have been screaming collusion for 2 years, quite clearly implying that Democrats are the only ones that think there is collusion or are interested in whether or not there was collusion.

 

[HomerJS]

That's not accurate in the slightest. I mean, if nothing that really happened hadn't happened, you'd be right. Trump's inimitable style & uncanny charisma let him grab 'em by the pussy, and they swooned. More than a few are feeling a bit tawdry at this point, I'm sure. The rest are singing Stand by your Man.

Like Cohen said, Trump makes people into willing accomplices in ways subtle and profound. That extends all the way to his voters. They knew he was a liar, a cheat, a thief and a con man when they voted for him. And yet... they did.

Somewhere in it all they find the time to preach to the rest of us about Values & get offended when they're not taken seriously. It's a wonderment.

You have to admit the only redeeming quality conservatives have but master it is chutzpah

 

[Fanatical Meat]

The dossier has only ever been proven to be true, for each point that has currently been investigated in detail. You see, that is actually true. It is no other way.

It makes me wonder why you desperately cling to easily defeated lies. Why do you do that?

Well it does appear the Michael Cohen part meeting with some Russian spy dude appears to be incorrect. Cohen said yesterday that trip was a family trip with his daughter. He did not do (Business) or meet with a Russian Spy person.
**I do not remember Cohens exact words**

However per our local useful idiots, Cohen cannot be trusted so maybe he did meet with a Russian spy. Things are so confusing lately.

 

[dank69]

Well it does appear the Michael Cohen part meeting with some Russian spy dude appears to be incorrect. Cohen said yesterday that trip was a family trip with his daughter. He did not do (Business) or meet with a Russian Spy person.
**I do not remember Cohens exact words**

However per our local useful idiots, Cohen cannot be trusted so maybe he did meet with a Russian spy. Things are so confusing lately.

He can't be trusted except when he says something we agree with. The conservatives have a similar arrangement with every single person on the planet.

 

[Maxima1]

The Trumpanzees won't notice the irony after Kavanaugh.

https://www.cnn.com/2019/02/28/politics/house-criminal-referral-michael-cohen/index.html

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Sorry, missed this earlier. I disagree. Stone sent that e-mail to a reporter in response to a story they published. He had to know the e-mail would be publicly quoted. For the sake of argument, let's say he didn't technically violate the exact wording of the order. Instead, he did an end around by "privately" e-mailing a reporter knowing his words would be made public.

I think Amy Jackson's patience with Stone was already fraying. If he makes her amend the order again by adding "and no communications with the press" she will be past the limit because she likely thought it wasn't necessary to even say that. Bail is discretionary for a trial judge, meaning she can revoke his bail at any time whether he violates the letter of her order or not.

If you look a bit further I realized that my memory of the exact wording of the gag order was incorrect and posted a correction. Apologies for the error. Stone is on the hook and I'm waiting for Jackson to respond.

 

[jackstar7]

Didn't hear anything about collision. Maybe you could link the relevant transcript?

Oh and this https://slate.com/news-and-politics...hearing-collusion-testimony-questionable.html

You didn't answer my question.

What would collusion look like for you to accept it as such?

 

[Jaskalas]

That's not accurate in the slightest. I mean, if nothing that really happened hadn't...

Don't obfuscate. Speak plainly and say what was not accurate.

I'll start with a simple premise. Trump was not a majority winner of the Republican Primary, even with momentum and other candidates dropping out early before large segments of the populated voted. He still failed to reach 50% of the voters. He won with a minority share of 45% of the votes.

It is the nature of not having run off elections that caused Mr. Trump to find a path to victory. Combined with the non-stop media coverage of him.

 

[dainthomas]

It must be deeply comforting to you to blame Dems for what the GOP has wrought in Trump, the world's greatest con artist. Cohen is trying to tell people the same thing Dems have been saying from the beginning, right here-

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/v...suffer_the_same_consequences_i_am_facing.html

Trump's corruption is more contagious than measles & it may destroy us all.

Exactly. Hilarious listening to Republicans blaming Dems for their own terrible guy getting elected. Must also be Dems fault they voted for a proven long-time conman in the primaries.

 

[UberNeuman]

Exactly. Hilarious listening to Republicans blaming Dems for their own terrible guy getting elected. Must also be Dems fault they voted for a proven long-time conman in the primaries.

It’s also the Dems fault that the GOP are working extra hard attacking AOC.

Lol. The GOP. Party of responsibility- for everyone else except themselves.

 

[ElFenix]

It’s also the Dems fault that the GOP are working extra hard attacking AOC.

Lol. The GOP. Party of responsibility- for everyone else except themselves.

Personal responsibility means that only that person can hold him/herself responsible.

 

[Muse]

Personal responsibility means that only that person can hold him/herself responsible.

Maybe when a category 5 hurricane destroys Washington DC the Republicans will admit we have a problem... Houston, we have a problem! Actually, some 40 inches of rain fell on Houston a couple years ago, IIRC, in maybe a couple of days. Houston already knows we have a problem. Ah, but it's an oil state, maybe not so much for some people there.

 

[soulcougher73]

Personal responsibility means that only that person can hold him/herself responsible.

Which conservatives fail hard at...like always.

 

[Paratus]

Maybe when a category 5 hurricane destroys Washington DC the Republicans will admit we have a problem... Houston, we have a problem! Actually, some 40 inches of rain fell on Houston a couple years ago, IIRC, in maybe a couple of days. Houston already knows we have a problem. Ah, but it's an oil state, maybe not so much for some people there.

It was well over 50 inches during Harvey Aug-Sept 2017

 

[woolfe9998]

If you look a bit further I realized that my memory of the exact wording of the gag order was incorrect and posted a correction. Apologies for the error. Stone is on the hook and I'm waiting for Jackson to respond.

Good. Judge Jackson must see Stone for the worm he is. Probably feels the need to shower after every hearing. I'm sure she's looking for an excuse to incarcerate him. And of course, Stone just can't help himself. Only took him a week to violate the gag order. I knew he would.

 

[VRAMdemon]

Arguing the guy can't be believed because he admitted "I was lying when I said the President was innocent when your team lobbed all those softball questions at me last year" is an odd position to take for people supposedly interested in the truth.

Now Jim Jordan and Mark Meadows, probably the two biggest douches from yesterday and in general, want Cohen to be investigated for perjury.

I guess that might be the last card to play, since they can't defend Trump himself.

 

[sportage]

Cohen to be investigated for perjury?
Talk about sour grapes.
These Trump republicans just cannot get over that anyone would dare say a disparaging word against their Mein Fuhrer. So now they must get even.
Well.... here we go again.
Another White-Water-ish Clinton-ish investigation costing taxpayers a lot of money and dragging on forever.
And in the end, if there is an end, nada. Nothing will come of it.
These republicans gripe about spending money investigating Donald Trump and Russia, yet are willing to spend unlimited taxpayer money over something as petty as this?
I guess it runs in the family.
After all, they were willing to spend unlimited funds for that stupid Trump wall too.

On the plus side for Cohen, their Cohen investigation might get Cohen some OUT OF JAIL time. Or, their chance to pull a old fashion mob hit job on Cohen.
Remember, we're talking about the Donald Trump mob family. The same family that no doubt demanded republicans start this Cohen investigate in the first place.
Leave the gun. Take the cannoli.

 

[compuwiz1]

Does Cohen get whacked before, or after he arrives at prison? Dead man walking. Maybe they should consider giving him immunity and placing him in the witness protection program. Just wondering, with all this mob talk and all...

 

[Jhhnn]

Don't obfuscate. Speak plainly and say what was not accurate.

I'll start with a simple premise. Trump was not a majority winner of the Republican Primary, even with momentum and other candidates dropping out early before large segments of the populated voted. He still failed to reach 50% of the voters. He won with a minority share of 45% of the votes.

It is the nature of not having run off elections that caused Mr. Trump to find a path to victory. Combined with the non-stop media coverage of him.

So what? The only contender even in his rearview mirror at the end of the Primary was Cruz, who's just as shitty as Trump in his own way. Trump ran a brilliant & devastating campaign designed to win the primary. A true majority of voters was not required. He played the rubes & the system magnificently. 62M Americans in just the right places fell for it & made him Prez. Grabbed 'em by the pussy he did.

"If another ignorant business mogul ran during the Republican Primary, Trump never would have made it." remains bullshit conjecture.

 

[Jhhnn]

Does Cohen get whacked before, or after he arrives at prison? Dead man walking. Maybe they should consider giving him immunity and placing him in the witness protection program. Just wondering, with all this mob talk and all...

He'll be fine, I figure. Some of the prisons in the federal system are quite safe for the inmates. The Bloods, Aryan brothers & others with a history of violence go someplace else. Which doesn't make them a great place to be, just a regimented & boring one.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Heh the Republicans are in a panic with these asinine charges against Cohen. Ok, let's bring Kushner and the Trump family in and ask them questions and apply the same "standard" as the Republicans. They would never see the light of day, well until they were pardoned by Trump, but likely prosecuted in NY. Ivanka might look good in orange.

 

[kage69]

Does Cohen get whacked before, or after he arrives at prison? Dead man walking. Maybe they should consider giving him immunity and placing him in the witness protection program. Just wondering, with all this mob talk and all...

Don't worry about the mob, worry about the Aryan Brotherhood. Or anyone out of Brighton Beach. Having the complete and undivided attention of those aryan animals or expat bratva isn't something I'd want. I agree, he is in danger and I wish other accommodations would be made for him. Idk about witness protection, but keeping him out of gen pop would definitely be a good idea.

Cohen is scared, and he should be.

Edit: just found out he's going to Otisville, which is medium security for white collar stuff. Might not be too bad, certainly not like being dropped into Rikers. That would be over inside a week I bet, as he's currently the world's most famous snitch.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Does Cohen get whacked before, or after he arrives at prison? Dead man walking. Maybe they should consider giving him immunity and placing him in the witness protection program. Just wondering, with all this mob talk and all...

He'll be no worse off than Trump when Donnie spends the remainder of his life in one of NY's highest security prisons.

 

[blackangst1]

He did not say that, in fact he said the exact opposite.

Like, he literally said he thought there was collusion. Where did you get the idea he didn't?

In his opening testimony, Cohen said, “questions have been raised about whether I know of direct evidence that Mr. Trump or his campaign colluded with Russia. I do not. I want to be clear. But, I have my suspicions.”