Heck yeah, I love The Island. Probably more than The Rock which I like a lot too. I don't really understand the Micheal Bay hate to be honest.Originally posted by: destrekor
Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
Originally posted by: mugs
Pearl Harbor could have done without the love story... but then you might as well watch Tora! Tora! Tora!
Bad Boys was good for what it was IIRC... Bad Boys II not so much.
Never saw The Island
The Rock was awesome
Transformers was awesome
You can't go into a Michael Bay movie expecting an artsy drama.
never saw the island?
well i guess thats why you are so forgiving!
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The Island was awesome. Now, not awesome in a The Rock or Transformers way... it was a different style of movie, at least it felt so to me. But I liked it, was a fun watch.
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Originally posted by: ja1484
Originally posted by: m0mentary
The Rock. with 62%
I agree thats the best of his films, but jeez, I didn't think all his movies were THAT bad.
Justified or no?
Justified. Michael Bay is eye-candy-heavy, shallow, whiz bang movies with little to no substance.
Americans are easily distracted by shiny objects and CGI and thus mistake "wow that looks cool" for "this is a good movie".
Originally posted by: Shadow Conception
Originally posted by: ja1484
Originally posted by: m0mentary
The Rock. with 62%
I agree thats the best of his films, but jeez, I didn't think all his movies were THAT bad.
Justified or no?
Justified. Michael Bay is eye-candy-heavy, shallow, whiz bang movies with little to no substance.
Americans are easily distracted by shiny objects and CGI and thus mistake "wow that looks cool" for "this is a good movie".
As exemplified by I am Legend. Literally every friend I have recommended it to me, and I found it to be absolute shit. Same with 28 Days Later, what a waste of time that was. :/
Originally posted by: clamum
Heck yeah, I love The Island. Probably more than The Rock which I like a lot too. I don't really understand the Micheal Bay hate to be honest.Originally posted by: destrekor
Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
Originally posted by: mugs
Pearl Harbor could have done without the love story... but then you might as well watch Tora! Tora! Tora!
Bad Boys was good for what it was IIRC... Bad Boys II not so much.
Never saw The Island
The Rock was awesome
Transformers was awesome
You can't go into a Michael Bay movie expecting an artsy drama.
never saw the island?
well i guess thats why you are so forgiving!
?!
The Island was awesome. Now, not awesome in a The Rock or Transformers way... it was a different style of movie, at least it felt so to me. But I liked it, was a fun watch.
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Originally posted by: Shadow Conception
Originally posted by: ja1484
Originally posted by: m0mentary
The Rock. with 62%
I agree thats the best of his films, but jeez, I didn't think all his movies were THAT bad.
Justified or no?
Justified. Michael Bay is eye-candy-heavy, shallow, whiz bang movies with little to no substance.
Americans are easily distracted by shiny objects and CGI and thus mistake "wow that looks cool" for "this is a good movie".
As exemplified by I am Legend. Literally every friend I have recommended it to me, and I found it to be absolute shit. Same with 28 Days Later, what a waste of time that was. :/
Originally posted by: LtPage1
Bad Boys and Transformers were lots of fun.
Originally posted by: ja1484
Originally posted by: LtPage1
Bad Boys and Transformers were lots of fun.
Transformers was grade A bombast and nostalgia. When I found out Bay was directing it, I was actually happy, because for the first time he was the right person for the job.
As for Bad Boys, they were entertaining if you're this guy.
Originally posted by: Deeko
Critics don't like mindless action movies. I (and many people in the general population) do. Therefore, I'm not entirely concerned about the RT rating of a Michael Bay movie.
Originally posted by: sjwaste
America, for the most part, does not love critically-acclaimed films. We like entertainment. Some studios and directors are starting to say it publicly, too, screw the critics, we can sell tickets making people laugh/sit on the edge of their seats.
I realize it might be a bad example among the ATOT "sophisticated" but when Eddie Murphy made Norbit, he basically laughed at the critics, who universally slammed the movie, and ended up making $30+M in the opening weekend.
Same with Michael Bay. The reason he still has work is because people like his movies and continue to see them, whether or not anyone here wants to admit that. Anyone who wants to criticize that is kidding themselves. Congratulations on your taste in films, but it proves you have no idea what makes money. Last I checked, that's what matters. Want art? Fine, but most people don't care.
Originally posted by: ja1484
Originally posted by: sjwaste
America, for the most part, does not love critically-acclaimed films. We like entertainment. Some studios and directors are starting to say it publicly, too, screw the critics, we can sell tickets making people laugh/sit on the edge of their seats.
I realize it might be a bad example among the ATOT "sophisticated" but when Eddie Murphy made Norbit, he basically laughed at the critics, who universally slammed the movie, and ended up making $30+M in the opening weekend.
Same with Michael Bay. The reason he still has work is because people like his movies and continue to see them, whether or not anyone here wants to admit that. Anyone who wants to criticize that is kidding themselves. Congratulations on your taste in films, but it proves you have no idea what makes money. Last I checked, that's what matters. Want art? Fine, but most people don't care.
I'll agree with you there, America does not want to be intellectually engaged in the movie theater, that is for sure.
Originally posted by: destrekor
Originally posted by: ja1484
Originally posted by: sjwaste
America, for the most part, does not love critically-acclaimed films. We like entertainment. Some studios and directors are starting to say it publicly, too, screw the critics, we can sell tickets making people laugh/sit on the edge of their seats.
I realize it might be a bad example among the ATOT "sophisticated" but when Eddie Murphy made Norbit, he basically laughed at the critics, who universally slammed the movie, and ended up making $30+M in the opening weekend.
Same with Michael Bay. The reason he still has work is because people like his movies and continue to see them, whether or not anyone here wants to admit that. Anyone who wants to criticize that is kidding themselves. Congratulations on your taste in films, but it proves you have no idea what makes money. Last I checked, that's what matters. Want art? Fine, but most people don't care.
I'll agree with you there, America does not want to be intellectually engaged in the movie theater, that is for sure.
In the movie theater I don't... but at home I do. I love thinking movies just as much as I love mindless action or horror movies. I just like movies, except for musicals. Can't stand them. lol
But in a theater, there tends to be a certain style that I want to watch. Generally always action or drama with action. Although, I never get around to seeing most of those critically acclaimed Sundance movies. Don't know why.
Hmm. Now I'm trying to figure out what movie I need to see in the drive in this summer. Quite a few big movies for the summer, but not sure how well they'll translate to drive in. Watching from my truck bed is awesome, but sometimes the darks just don't fare so well from the projection. I think The Dark Knight, as awesome as it would be, won't be one I see at the drive in. Hmm.
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Originally posted by: Mo0o
He needed to get better writers for Transformers. The dialogue was just excruciatingly cheesy.
Originally posted by: Dirigible
IMDB lists his director credits thusly:
1 Transformers (2007)
... aka Transformers: The IMAX Experience (USA: IMAX version)
2 The Island (2005)
3 The Lionel Richie Collection (2003) (V) (video "Do It to Me")
4 Bad Boys II (2003)
... aka Good Cops: Bad Boys II (Malaysia: English title)
5 Pearl Harbor (2001)
... aka Pearl Harbour (UK: promotional title)
6 Armageddon (1998/I)
7 The Rock (1996)
8 Bad Boys (1995)
9 Meat Loaf: Bat Out of Hell II - Picture Show (1994) (V) (music videos)
10 Shadows and Light: From a Different View (1992) (V)
11 Great White: My... My... My... the Video Collection (1991) (V) (video "Call It Rock N' Roll")
12 Playboy Video Centerfold: Kerri Kendall (1990) (V)
I enjoyed #s 8, 7, and 2. I thought #s 1 and 4 were watchable entertainment. Didn't see #s 3, 5, 6, or 9-12. Looks like #12 may deserve study in the future.
That's a decent track record for entertainment in my book.
Originally posted by: ja1484
Originally posted by: sjwaste
America, for the most part, does not love critically-acclaimed films. We like entertainment. Some studios and directors are starting to say it publicly, too, screw the critics, we can sell tickets making people laugh/sit on the edge of their seats.
I realize it might be a bad example among the ATOT "sophisticated" but when Eddie Murphy made Norbit, he basically laughed at the critics, who universally slammed the movie, and ended up making $30+M in the opening weekend.
Same with Michael Bay. The reason he still has work is because people like his movies and continue to see them, whether or not anyone here wants to admit that. Anyone who wants to criticize that is kidding themselves. Congratulations on your taste in films, but it proves you have no idea what makes money. Last I checked, that's what matters. Want art? Fine, but most people don't care.
I'll agree with you there, America does not want to be intellectually engaged in the movie theater, that is for sure.
Originally posted by: K1052
Originally posted by: ja1484
Originally posted by: sjwaste
America, for the most part, does not love critically-acclaimed films. We like entertainment. Some studios and directors are starting to say it publicly, too, screw the critics, we can sell tickets making people laugh/sit on the edge of their seats.
I realize it might be a bad example among the ATOT "sophisticated" but when Eddie Murphy made Norbit, he basically laughed at the critics, who universally slammed the movie, and ended up making $30+M in the opening weekend.
Same with Michael Bay. The reason he still has work is because people like his movies and continue to see them, whether or not anyone here wants to admit that. Anyone who wants to criticize that is kidding themselves. Congratulations on your taste in films, but it proves you have no idea what makes money. Last I checked, that's what matters. Want art? Fine, but most people don't care.
I'll agree with you there, America does not want to be intellectually engaged in the movie theater, that is for sure.
Possibly because it is ENTERTAINMENT?
Before pissing all over the American general public for their taste in films you should look at how well most of them do overseas or glance at the Bollywood fare (not exactly Citizen Cain every time).
Originally posted by: conehead433
I didn't vote because I didn't see the choice 'I like his films'.
Originally posted by: ja1484
Originally posted by: K1052
Originally posted by: ja1484
Originally posted by: sjwaste
America, for the most part, does not love critically-acclaimed films. We like entertainment. Some studios and directors are starting to say it publicly, too, screw the critics, we can sell tickets making people laugh/sit on the edge of their seats.
I realize it might be a bad example among the ATOT "sophisticated" but when Eddie Murphy made Norbit, he basically laughed at the critics, who universally slammed the movie, and ended up making $30+M in the opening weekend.
Same with Michael Bay. The reason he still has work is because people like his movies and continue to see them, whether or not anyone here wants to admit that. Anyone who wants to criticize that is kidding themselves. Congratulations on your taste in films, but it proves you have no idea what makes money. Last I checked, that's what matters. Want art? Fine, but most people don't care.
I'll agree with you there, America does not want to be intellectually engaged in the movie theater, that is for sure.
Possibly because it is ENTERTAINMENT?
Before pissing all over the American general public for their taste in films you should look at how well most of them do overseas or glance at the Bollywood fare (not exactly Citizen Cain every time).
You misunderstand. I'm not pissing all over the American general public for their taste in films. I'm pissing all over them on general principle, because the majority are mostly useless wastes of existence. It's really more the general retardedness that concerns me. Refer to Idiocracy.
And this kind of thing is actually sort of the trend I'm talking about. Since when was intellectual engagement mutually exclusive from entertainment? I still love Tetris.
So, anyway, if you're still mad, wa-waaaaaah.....
