Miami-Dade County Ends Hand Recount

[Michael]

rickn - If either Bush or Gore were not the ones the public really wanted, then I blame the voters. 50% didn't even vote. Red Dawn can rant about the primary system if he wants, but you can join either party and vote in the primaries if you want.

Michael

 

[Russ]

<< Gore campaign chairman Bill Daley said Democrats would seek a court order forcing Miami-Dade County to resume a full recount. >>



Yet one more nail in Bore's political coffin.

Russ, NCNE

 

[Michael]

Why make the voting open? I belong to a couple of organizations that require you to be a member to vote for BoD positions. Making it completely open will allow for a ton of abuse where people with no interest in the party's views may vote just for disruption purposes.

I makes far more sense to register for the party you agree the most with and then work within the party to ensure the best candidates are put forth. If you don't agree with any of the party positions, then why should you get a choice in who gets to run to be leader?

You've been whining away at that point ad nauseam. Being President doesn't help much without having a majority in the House and Senate (you just end up blocking everything instead of passing anything - I like divided government because I want less useless laws, but that's just my opinion). So you want good local candidates coupled with a good national candidate. That means the party working together.

Since you don't like either main party, why do you want it to change? the real chance of a third party doing well is to have two choices that are both unappealing. Note that no independent party did very well this election. You can argue that Bush and gore were so bad it was hard to choose between them, or you can argue that they were both good choices that had broad support within their parties.

How exactly would &quot;opening&quot; up the primary process be beneficial?

Michael

 

[Don Vito Corleone]

Russ:

Agreed, for once. Can we please stop with the &quot;Bore,&quot; though? It was tired about a month ago. I am afraid to ask what cutely derogatory name you have for President Clinton.

 

[Russ]

Tee_Edwards,

I'll dispense with &quot;Bore&quot; as soon as the democrats dispense with &quot;Shrub&quot;.

EDIT: On second thought, I'll switch to Gore. I just thought of a couple of excellent combinations that fit with the name.

Russ, NCNE

 

[Russ]

<< GOP presidential candidate George W. Bush has approved an appeal to the U.S. Supreme Court over the recount in Florida, claiming the Florida Supreme Court overstepped its bounds, sources tell CNN. >>



Cool. Bush has finally grown some balls.

Russ, NCNE

 

[Moonbeam]

Whereas Gore had balls all along cause if I remember he was supposed to be the one who started the suing.

 

[Russ]

Moonbeam,

If you were expecting an argument on that issue, I'm sorry but I'm going to have to disappoint you. No question, Goreby has balls. That's what it takes to try and hijack the Presidency.

Russ, NCNE

 

[Feisters]

Well now I just heard on Fox News that Gore is going to court to force Miami-Dade to continue recounting. :|

 

[Moonbeam]

I guess there are good balls and bad balls. I only hope I don't regress to the point I remember jumping from one to the other to keep from being a bastard. My neighbor suffested that they stopped the recount out of fear. He said there was violence in the streets

 

[Michael]

It is 5:20 EST on the Wednesday before Thankgiving. I bet many of the counters have gone home. They'll have to find a judge and make an arguement in front of the judge, and it will be fought by the Rebublicans.

Miami-Dade will not be able to get counters back in fast enough to make a difference.

I also think that, if an error is determined, the canvassing board has 3 choices. a manual recount is only one of the three. I would love to know what law would force them to do a manual recount as the only choice.

Michael

 

[cxim]

once again the mighty Democrats get caught in a lie. The illinois case cited by the Dems &amp; Fl Supreme Court did not recognize pregnant chads or marks on the ballot.

The ballots in question were reviewed by a judge who used the standard of holding ballots up to a light &amp; seeing a hole thru the card.

I heard a discussion of the case by one of the involved attys. He was surprised that he kept getting questions about chads. No chads involved. It was hole or no hole.

Very interesting how this came to be a pro-dimpled or pro-preggers chad decision.

Also suit filed to allow military AB ballots without postmarks in... will love to see where the 'count em all democrats' weigh in on this one.

 

[Double Trouble]

Normally, I would think this particular issue (hand counts continuing in Dade county) would be open and shut. If the Florida law says it's up to the canvassing board to determine whether to count or not, it should be over........ BUT, and there's always a &quot;BUT&quot;, I could see another crooked judge (or even the crooked supremes) down there throwing out the law to promote their agenda at any cost, and force a manual count.

Can't get enough votes by cheating? Get a judge to order more voting to expand cheating opportunities and speed up the process.

 

[ride525]

<< The illinois case cited by the Dems &amp; Fl Supreme Court did not recognize pregnant chads or marks on the ballot. >>



If this were REALLY true, don't you think the Republicans would have brought is up in arguments, and in their spin.

 

[cxim]

I know it is really true. I listened to the atty who won the case describe what happened in the case, in detail.

It is a sh!tty case to boot... there were only 27 contested ballots.

 

[ManSnake]

Cool. Bush has finally grown some balls.

LOL, instead of balls, it should have been hypocritical balls!!

Bush can't hide his tail between his legs any longer, he is finally showing that he is a hypocrite, and who was he calling a liar??? Hahahaha...

 

[Russ]

ManSnake,

Calling somebody a hypocrite for defending themselves is a stretch. Even stupid people, like Gore Goonies, don't believe that one.

Russ, NCNE

 

[Snoop]

ManSnake: Calling bush a hypocrite is moronic. For Example: If someone jumped you in an alley and was trying to beat the sh!et out of you, do you think your being a hypocritical if you try and punch the guy back?

 

[Moonbeam]

Yeah ManSnake, take that. And just imagine if the guy was punching you out because he had stolen your wallet and you got it back and now he was trying to say it was his and he didn't even know there was no money it it.

Reverse the candidates and all the opinions would reverse too.

 

[Michael]

Miami-Dade Court refuses recount demand - Dems appealing to the Supreme Court. Shoulded they appeal to an appeal court first?

Michael

 

[JellyBaby]

Michael,

IMO the federal government, aka Vice President Albert Gore, should let the FL state and local governments control their elections just like it says in the constitution. In other words, GTFU of the picture. Let them do their own frickin' jobs and make their own frickin' decisions. Why is that so hard for Bore to get?

 

[Russ]

Michael,

Even though I think the democrats are scum-sucking bottom dwellers for their manipulations in Florida, I think that given the very real time constraints, going directly to the Florida Supreme Court makes sense.

EDIT: I just re-read the article, and it WAS an appeals court that denied the writ.

Russ, NCNE

 

[ride525]

<< IMO the federal government, aka Vice President Albert Gore, should let the FL state and local governments control their elections just like it says in the constitution. In other words, GTFU of the picture. Let them do their own frickin' jobs and make their own frickin' decisions. Why is that so hard for Bore to get? >>



Interesting thought JB. Sounds just like Bush, &quot;I trust you the people, I trust the states&quot;.

So tell me why he keeps going to FEDERAL court, for cases involving STATES voting issues....

Interesting.....

 

[JellyBaby]

<< So tell me why he keeps going to FEDERAL court, for cases involving STATES voting issues.... >>

ride525,

Shrub's cronies would have taken ZERO action and let the STATES handle the job as they see fit EXCEPT for the fact Al Gore's cronies struck FIRST, struck HARD, and struck OFTEN. Counter insurgency tactics at their best, eh?

 

[ride525]

A few legally requested hand counts were requested in Florida.

The &quot;I trust the states&quot; guy went to FEDERAL court to try and get them stopped.