RY62
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Originally posted by: palehorse74
Many of you are forgetting that polling indicates that most Hillary supporters are of below average education, and intelligence...
Doesn't that explain most of what we're seeing from them here on P&N?
Funny, I've not seen a single poll that included IQ testing. As the B.O. supporters are clearly showing, educated does not equal intelligent.
Nevertheless, blue-collar working-class people associate Hillary's name with the good economic times of Bill Clinton.
Originally posted by: palehorse74
Many of you are forgetting that polling indicates that most Hillary supporters are of below average education, and intelligence...
Doesn't that explain most of what we're seeing from them here on P&N?
I can't go down that road. The problem with Hillary isn't Hillary supporters, it's Hillary, in my opinion.
Originally posted by: RY62
Originally posted by: palehorse74
Many of you are forgetting that polling indicates that most Hillary supporters are of below average education, and intelligence...
Doesn't that explain most of what we're seeing from them here on P&N?
Funny, I've not seen a single poll that included IQ testing. As the B.O. supporters are clearly showing, educated does not equal intelligent.
Can you honestly argue that increased education doesn't lead to increased intelligence considering that intelligence is based on the accumulation and retention of learned events?
Originally posted by: RY62
Originally posted by: palehorse74
Many of you are forgetting that polling indicates that most Hillary supporters are of below average education, and intelligence...
Doesn't that explain most of what we're seeing from them here on P&N?
Funny, I've not seen a single poll that included IQ testing. As the B.O. supporters are clearly showing, educated does not equal intelligent.
correct, a vote for hillary is good for 15 points on your next iq test.
:disgust:
umbrella39
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Originally posted by: loki8481
no more so than Obama wouldn't be the front runner right now if he was white.
McCain '08.
It has much more to do with his ability to inspire than the fact that he's black.
Originally posted by: glutenberg
Originally posted by: loki8481
no more so than Obama wouldn't be the front runner right now if he was white.
McCain '08.
It has much more to do with his ability to inspire than the fact that he's black.
take away the fact that he's getting 80% of the black vote, and what's left? would he even have been invited to give the DNC convention speech if he were some random white Midwestern politician?
I know there's no way to say that without sounding like a huge racist, but where would either of these candidates be without identity politics?
neither sides are budging
http://marcambinder.theatlanti...ing_florida_and_mi.php
i heard it described on the radio as a "typical Democratic Party firing squad, everyone standing in a circle"
:laugh:
http://marcambinder.theatlanti...ing_florida_and_mi.php
i heard it described on the radio as a "typical Democratic Party firing squad, everyone standing in a circle"
:laugh:
As did I. I'm a registered (R) who couldn't vote for a (D) so what was the point? I wouldn't have voted against McCain because he was far better than the other offerings (Huckabee/Romney/Paul) at the time but I wasn't going to make an effort to vote for him either.
I'll be submitting my long overdue (I'm a horrible procrastinator) party change form from (R) to (D) tomorrow.
If you look back to the beginnings of the elections, he was not slated to receive much of the African American vote. It's his recent momentum that has been pulling in alot of African Americans.
Plus, if you discount him for being black, it would only be fair to discount Hilary for being a female. There's really no need to discount either one as they're both extremely successful, well spoken, intelligent individuals.
Originally posted by: loki8481
Originally posted by: glutenberg
Originally posted by: loki8481
no more so than Obama wouldn't be the front runner right now if he was white.
McCain '08.
It has much more to do with his ability to inspire than the fact that he's black.
take away the fact that he's getting 80% of the black vote, and what's left? would he even have been invited to give the DNC convention speech if he were some random white Midwestern politician?
I know there's no way to say that without sounding like a huge racist, but where would either of these candidates be without identity politics?
If that's the case then why didn't Jesse Jackson or Al Sharpton succeed? Being white didn't seem to help Edwards this year.
Originally posted by: loki8481
Originally posted by: glutenberg
Originally posted by: loki8481
no more so than Obama wouldn't be the front runner right now if he was white.
McCain '08.
It has much more to do with his ability to inspire than the fact that he's black.
take away the fact that he's getting 80% of the black vote, and what's left? would he even have been invited to give the DNC convention speech if he were some random white Midwestern politician?
I know there's no way to say that without sounding like a huge racist, but where would either of these candidates be without identity politics?
Obama has won the white male vote in quite a few states.
Obama won the educated vote in every state.
Obama won the under 40 vote in every state.
He won every single demographic in VA, Maryland, and DC. IIRC he won or tied every single demographic in Wisconsion.
The problem is every time Clinton has her back against the wall her base of old white women rally and eek out a win for her(NH and Texas, two states Obama actually wins the delegate counts).
He was polling a dead tie with Clinton amongst the black votes until NH the he took a 3 to 1 lead. After bill opened his mouth in SC it became the 8or9 to 1.
palehorse
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Originally posted by: RY62
Originally posted by: palehorse74
Many of you are forgetting that polling indicates that most Hillary supporters are of below average education, and intelligence...
Doesn't that explain most of what we're seeing from them here on P&N?
Funny, I've not seen a single poll that included IQ testing. As the B.O. supporters are clearly showing, educated does not equal intelligent.
OK OK, so I added the "intelligence" part... ya got me! lol...
BTW, did anyone catch Obama on the NBC Today show this morning? He rattled off a list of the states he won and the first one he listed was Michigan. I'm not sure if he mispoke or if by some convoluted logic he is trying to claim Michigan even though he wasn't on the ballot. I'm gonna give him the benefit of the doubt and just assume that he made a mistake.
Edit: I wanted to make sure I wasn't crazy, and I managed to find it on Youtube.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R5Gqm8sZ6vg
Edit: I wanted to make sure I wasn't crazy, and I managed to find it on Youtube.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R5Gqm8sZ6vg
I wasn't really referencing that. I just meant her whining about fl and MI, but you make a good point. We need someone a little more emotionally stable.
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The Michigan and Florida primaries were shams because Obama, who played by the DNC's rules and followed the rules, removed his name from the Michigan and Florida ballots.
The only fair solution would be for each state to have "do-over" primaries.
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