Mexico's drug war is crossing into the US.

[Deleted member 4644]

In light of the economy, and the drug war, I think it is time to put the national guard on the border en mass.

 

[Thump553]

Originally posted by: Genx87
Clearly this tells us we need to take away guns from law abiding citizens.

Where do you think the weapons the cartels use (including 50 caliber machine guns) come from? USA-we sell them to the weapons they are killing our citizens with. Good job, NRA.

 

[JS80]

Originally posted by: Thump553

Originally posted by: Genx87
Clearly this tells us we need to take away guns from law abiding citizens.

Where do you think the weapons the cartels use (including 50 caliber machine guns) come from? USA-we sell them to the weapons they are killing our citizens with. Good job, NRA.

lol the NRA sells 50 caliber machine guns to mexican drug dealers? if you make all guns illegal, mexican drug dealers will no longer have 50 caliber machine guns?

 

[BoberFett]

Originally posted by: JS80

Originally posted by: Thump553

Originally posted by: Genx87
Clearly this tells us we need to take away guns from law abiding citizens.

Where do you think the weapons the cartels use (including 50 caliber machine guns) come from? USA-we sell them to the weapons they are killing our citizens with. Good job, NRA.

lol the NRA sells 50 caliber machine guns to mexican drug dealers? if you make all guns illegal, mexican drug dealers will no longer have 50 caliber machine guns?

I was just down at the NRA Store and they were out of 50 cal machine guns. I guess they sold their last ones to some Mexicans, but I got a raincheck. They had some Photon Torpedoes but that seems like overkill, so I'll just wait until they get restocked.

 

[Danwar]

just the other day there was a poll in the off-topic forums here in Anandtech. asking who had never done drugs. the results were rather impressive. most of the people answered that they had at one point tried drugs in their life and many said that the regularly do drugs...

If americans stopped funding these criminals maybe the people in mexico wouldnt have to fight a war just so you can get high. and then bitch about the violence spilling over to your cities. or cry about how you're afraid to go to Cancun on springbreak (laughable in my opinion since the cartels wouldnt dare to hurt their customer base).

 

[GeezerMan]

Originally posted by: Lemon law
The problem is that the 38 billion US citizens spend on illegal drugs stretches much further in Mexico. If we want to know who funds the drug traffickers in Mexico, US citizens need only reach for the nearest mirror.

And now as the battle progresses, they have all but won in Mexico, and are now coming into the USA. Armed to the teeth, thanks to loopholes in US gun laws.

I watched the 60 minutes interview Sunday night with Anderson Cooper and a Mexican official complaining about the weapons coming from the USA into Mexico. He listed rocket launchers, grenades, missile launchers. How can it be that a professional like Cooper does not understand that you can't buy these items at a retail store? He of course, asks Janet Napolitano about the assault weapons ban (which has no affect on these military weapons). There is no way to legally buy or get a license to buy grenades, rockets, missiles, etc. here in the USA
There is an agenda here, IMO

watch it here:
Link

 

[Nebor]

Originally posted by: GeezerMan
There is no way to legally buy or get a license to buy grenades, rockets, missiles, etc. here in the USA
There is an agenda here, IMO

watch it here:
Link

That's not true at all. However, if you plan on using those weapons unlawfully there are much cheaper and easier ways to obtain them, rather than going through the official, red-tape covered path.

 

[woodie1]

Originally posted by: BoberFett

Originally posted by: JS80

Originally posted by: Thump553

Originally posted by: Genx87
Clearly this tells us we need to take away guns from law abiding citizens.

Where do you think the weapons the cartels use (including 50 caliber machine guns) come from? USA-we sell them to the weapons they are killing our citizens with. Good job, NRA.

lol the NRA sells 50 caliber machine guns to mexican drug dealers? if you make all guns illegal, mexican drug dealers will no longer have 50 caliber machine guns?

I was just down at the NRA Store and they were out of 50 cal machine guns. I guess they sold their last ones to some Mexicans, but I got a raincheck. They had some Photon Torpedoes but that seems like overkill, so I'll just wait until they get restocked.

Yep, my local NRA store was so low on stock I wondered how they stay in business. Bought the last of their grenades and a dozen rocket launchers but really wanted a few more 50 cal machine guns.

 

[GeezerMan]

Originally posted by: Nebor

Originally posted by: GeezerMan
There is no way to legally buy or get a license to buy grenades, rockets, missiles, etc. here in the USA
There is an agenda here, IMO

watch it here:
Link

That's not true at all. However, if you plan on using those weapons unlawfully there are much cheaper and easier ways to obtain them, rather than going through the official, red-tape covered path.

Machine guns made after May 19, 1986, cannot be owned at all. I stand corrected on grenades. They can be legally owned under the Class 3 weapon license if you get approved and pay the hefty tax.
I seriously doubt there are many legally owned grenades in private ownership.
The point to be made here is these Class III weapons used by the cartels are not because of lax USA laws or loopholes. And again, the expired assault weapons ban does not apply to Class III weapons

Class III

Less than TEN crimes have been committed since 1934 by legally owned machine guns.
Link

 

[Fear No Evil]

Originally posted by: Thump553

Originally posted by: Genx87
Clearly this tells us we need to take away guns from law abiding citizens.

Where do you think the weapons the cartels use (including 50 caliber machine guns) come from? USA-we sell them to the weapons they are killing our citizens with. Good job, NRA.

Because the United States is the only source of guns in the world? LOL..

 

[Cattlegod]

Man I just hope this doesn't spill into the Mexican Tourist industry. I was just in Cancun last week. Everything was hunky dory there, but I could see them going after all the tourists as an easy target.

 

[bamacre]

Originally posted by: Lemon law
The problem is that the 38 billion US citizens spend on illegal drugs stretches much further in Mexico. If we want to know who funds the drug traffickers in Mexico, US citizens need only reach for the nearest mirror.

Just what exactly are you trying to say here?

Do you think this is the way the American people want this to work? Specifically those consuming illegal substances? Are you trying to say that John Doh! (pun intended) would rather get his $25 bag of weed from one of three different drug dealers in his cell phone rather than purchasing it from something like a local liquor store?

And if this even resembles what your post is inferring, then my question to you is how do you defend the standard issued boots that come knocking down the doors of those who try to grow their own?

It just really irks me when I see the American people getting blamed for the ineptness, corruption, and plain stupidity of government. If the American people are to blame, it is only for their ignorance of the issues, and their terrible voting record.

 

[IGBT]

..and it's all driven by the drugies and dopers in the US. these guys are killing each other to get their product to the USERS.

 

[deepred98]

Originally posted by: Lemon law
The problem is that the 38 billion US citizens spend on illegal drugs stretches much further in Mexico. If we want to know who funds the drug traffickers in Mexico, US citizens need only reach for the nearest mirror.

And now as the battle progresses, they have all but won in Mexico, and are now coming into the USA. Armed to the teeth, thanks to loopholes in US gun laws.

Thus the gov needs to stop their useless war on drugs and start providing domestic homegrown product and start counseling addicts instead of sticking them in tax-draining prisons. Support the country and say no to Mexican brick schwag.

Oh and the gov should throw some fire bombs into suspected cartel territory for good measure .

*To those that are a bit thick in the head the second part isn't serious.

 

[SigArms08]

Originally posted by: Thump553

Originally posted by: Genx87
Clearly this tells us we need to take away guns from law abiding citizens.

Where do you think the weapons the cartels use (including 50 caliber machine guns) come from? USA-we sell them to the weapons they are killing our citizens with. Good job, NRA.

worth a good LOL.

Like Boberfett, my local NRA store was also out of .50 cal mg's no thanks to the mexican cartels scarfing 'em all up. Now the rocket launchers are all back ordered, too!

 

[Cattlegod]

Originally posted by: IGBT
..and it's all driven by the drugies and dopers in the US. these guys are killing each other to get their product to the USERS.

Actually, I would argue that this war is caused by the people who don't do drugs. The people who don't do drugs are the people who make it illegal (by electing officials to represent them) and thus unregulated. If the people who don't do drugs voted to allow private industry to take over, this 'war' would go away.

 

[MikeMike]

Originally posted by: Cattlegod

Originally posted by: IGBT
..and it's all driven by the drugies and dopers in the US. these guys are killing each other to get their product to the USERS.

Actually, I would argue that this war is caused by the people who don't do drugs. The people who don't do drugs are the people who make it illegal (by electing officials to represent them) and thus unregulated. If the people who don't do drugs voted to allow private industry to take over, this 'war' would go away.

Oh, now that is just like the article... only unlike the one on the pool table, i think you already pulled the pin.

 

[vhx]

Originally posted by: Fear No Evil

Originally posted by: brandonbull
I'm glad we are protecting the US from attacks by having 100K+ soldiers in Iraq and Afghanistan. I would be really scared that foreign people would cross our borders and attack US citizens if it wasn't for all the troops and hardware we have overseas preventing this

U.S. Military troops are not allowed to be deployed in the United States. I know its tough for you to understand this and not just spew a talking point but its true. Now if you want to argue our National Guard troops should not be in Iraq/Afghanistan thats another argument which you did not make, and its not 100k of them. So perhaps rewrite your thoughts to make some sense?

Actually they can be, and have already done so.

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2...y_bct_home_deployment/

EDIT:
Here is the Anandtech thread on it
http://forums.anandtech.com/me...id=52&threadid=2230908

 

[brandonbull]

Originally posted by: Fear No Evil

Originally posted by: brandonbull
I'm glad we are protecting the US from attacks by having 100K+ soldiers in Iraq and Afghanistan. I would be really scared that foreign people would cross our borders and attack US citizens if it wasn't for all the troops and hardware we have overseas preventing this

U.S. Military troops are not allowed to be deployed in the United States. I know its tough for you to understand this and not just spew a talking point but its true. Now if you want to argue our National Guard troops should not be in Iraq/Afghanistan thats another argument which you did not make, and its not 100k of them. So perhaps rewrite your thoughts to make some sense?

Are you 100% about US troops not being able to deploy inside the USA? I guess since you don't spew a talking point you know all about the Insurrection Act of 1807.

Maybe our troops could operate just inside the Mexican border. Ever think of that? Or were you too busy cleaning Starbuck's off your Mac to be bothered with such things?