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Mexicans overrun california like ants

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Originally posted by: shortylickens
Originally posted by: Tango
Then the problem, my friend, is not that they are Mexicans, but that they are killers, stabbers and rapers.
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I think his point is that since we already have a healthy serving of our own crime, we dont need to keep importing more.
And the problem isnt JUST that they are killers. Simply being here they are committing a crime.
And on top of that they bring in and create more crime.
The position he originally stated (I think) was that CA could eliminate a decent helping of its crime by purging the aliens and not letting more in.
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Those guys would be here anyway. What do you think they do for a living? They are involved in Narco-trafficking. Where do you think Colombian drugs go through to get here? Canada? Of course they go through Mexico.

The US don't import this crime with immigrants, the US import it with drugs.
 
Originally posted by: scott
Well actually I stasted above that "it's in my face" everyday.

My position is based my experience, not on abstract philosophy like I feel that some here speak from on this issue.

I've had the shocking experience of holding an infant in respiratory trauma, fighting for life with every breath, yet being forced to wait in a long line at the hospital emergency toom at 1:00 am.m behind maybe 50 Mexicans all dressed up, bringing their kids in for free routine medicals at the emergemncy room. Because they can't turn them away. Burt they got there first so wait. So the true emergency just has tio deal with it, tough.
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Curse those mud-people, how DARE they get in the way of your pure Aryan blood.
 
This is a good a place as any to vent I guess.

Just got off the phone with my dad. He told me when he came home some Hispanic teen was running out of the side of his house with all of his change. Has to be the 6th or 8th time in 10 years he has been burglarized. He had it all in one of the large Folgers coffee cans must have weighted 40 pounds. My dad yelled at the guy while he was running off saying something my dad couldn?t understand. Dad uses walker so couldn?t really do anything. I wish the guy broke in from the back door my dad boobytraped it by hanging a old circular saw above the door with its cord around the inner door handle (guy would probably sue then).

Wish he would just move from Bell Gardens, but that?s where he grew up and all he can afford renting house from my uncle. If he could just get past moving away from my me and his grandson I think we would take a offer to move onto the land of one of his war buddies in Oregon and just leave this shit hole.
 
Originally posted by: piasabird
Since when do liberals care about the truth?

Liberals do not know what the truth is.

Please stop posting crap like this.

-- AnandTech Elite Senior Moderator Perknose
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Each and every poster here is WELCOME to PM me personally with notated (which post in a long thread) links to posts like this, and I will take action. Posts like the above add nothing to the forum.
 
Originally posted by: rpanic
This is a good a place as any to vent I guess.

Just got off the phone with my dad. He told me when he came home some Hispanic teen was running out of the side of his house with all of his change. Has to be the 6th or 8th time in 10 years he has been burglarized. He had it all in one of the large Folgers coffee cans must have weighted 40 pounds. My dad yelled at the guy while he was running off saying something my dad couldn?t understand. Dad uses walker so couldn?t really do anything. I wish the guy broke in from the back door my dad boobytraped it by hanging a old circular saw above the door with its cord around the inner door handle (guy would probably sue then).
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Talk to a local lawyer and ask if he remembers the spring trap incident from law school. The stunt you pulled definately sets your father up for a can't lose lawsuit if anyone gets hurt in it. What if the EMTs came through that door in response to a 911 call from your grandfather? Basically the law in the US for hundreds of years is that you can't do what you did-our society (from the get-go) has favored human life over property rights.

PS-this whole problem could be solved by giving California back to the Mexicans-they settled it before we did (and that's not enven considering the rights of the true native americans).

 
What is so intersting about this apparrently bogous report is that it appears all over the internet but there is never a link to a government source. I find this very interesting.

I went to the INS website, the DHS website, and the FBI website. The problem is that this kind of data is not easy to collect without violating people's rights. Now maybe you might find a reference to a report in the past to the immigrant population being around 14% but I would not trust those figures either. I think they are based on data that is way out of date. Generally crime statisics do not record whether the person that committed the crime was an illegal alien. To admit that would require the agency reporting each incident to contact INS for each incident. I doubt they would even have time to do that in LA.
 
That?s what I told my dad but he is old and doesn?t care anymore, he told me you can?t squeeze blood out of turnip and a law suit wouldn't get anything from him he lives month to month, but I do see how the EMT thing could happen at least it?s the back door. He also has a old giant dbl shotgun (the kind you see some old farmers with) hidden for when he is home


If we did give California back all that would happen is it would sink into poverty be stripped and then they would move to the next state. And if we were going to even touch that can of worms what about all the borders that have moved over the last thousand years from wars.
 
Originally posted by: senseamp

That is a poverty issue, not an immigration issue.
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How are they not one-in-the-same when almost all of the immigrants coming from Mexico are extremely impoverished?
 
Originally posted by: Thump553
Originally posted by: rpanic
This is a good a place as any to vent I guess.

Just got off the phone with my dad. He told me when he came home some Hispanic teen was running out of the side of his house with all of his change. Has to be the 6th or 8th time in 10 years he has been burglarized. He had it all in one of the large Folgers coffee cans must have weighted 40 pounds. My dad yelled at the guy while he was running off saying something my dad couldn?t understand. Dad uses walker so couldn?t really do anything. I wish the guy broke in from the back door my dad boobytraped it by hanging a old circular saw above the door with its cord around the inner door handle (guy would probably sue then).
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Talk to a local lawyer and ask if he remembers the spring trap incident from law school. The stunt you pulled definately sets your father up for a can't lose lawsuit if anyone gets hurt in it. What if the EMTs came through that door in response to a 911 call from your grandfather? Basically the law in the US for hundreds of years is that you can't do what you did-our society (from the get-go) has favored human life over property rights.

PS-this whole problem could be solved by giving California back to the Mexicans-they settled it before we did (and that's not enven considering the rights of the true native americans).
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PPS - Those are both piss-poor arguments which have already been destroyed in this thread and others.

 
Reminded me of my brother.
Back when all the tax statements were being mailed out he got about 25 of them in the mail, all adressed to various people with spanish names.
He runs a business and the post office told him that they probably just took the address from his business cards.

In this area , illegal workers are rampant. Theres whole towns filled with them.
They work the fields here and do odd jobs that don't require registration.

I love the line "they do jobs other people aren't willing to do"
Thats a total crock, its more like "They do jobs for less money and under minimum wage"

Its not that farmers cant get labor, its that they aren't willing to pay for it.

I have no problem from someone coming to this country to make a better future for themselves or there family, as long as they do it by the law.

Illegals are so high on the population here that I can't read a lot of the stuff on the shelf in the grocery store.
Its been replaced by products labeled in spanish.
Last I looked this isn't mexico.

At this rate I guess I need to learn spanish .

 
While the numbers in that e-mail are way off, the basics behind it are true...they are invading in record numbers, and it's not only good honest hard working people who are breaking our laws, stealing social security numbers and committing fraud to come here to better their families...the drug dealers thieves, and violent criminals are also coming across in record numbers.
Estimates vary widely on exactly how many Kahleeforneeya prison inmates are illegal aliens...from a low of 11% to a high of 50-60%. Personally, I suspect the real number is somewhere towards the lower-middle of those numbers.
HOWEVER, it seems like any time an illegal Mexican gets in a car accident or is wanted for committing a crime, they do their best (when they can) to run back to old Mexico and hide out for a while. It happens here all the freakin time.

Modelworks...I agree with you on the "Jobs Americans won't do" issue...it's usually jobs Americans won't do for sub-standard wages...I worked construction for over 30 years, and the last 5 or so years, it seems like a large number of the crews are made up of Mexicans...some legal, some not...and this is on major construction projects, where almost everyone is union...in the local home building and light commercial construction market, based on working crane rental for several years and having to service those kinds of jobs, I'd guess the numbers of illegal immigrants is much higher. It's getting more and more common to have only 1 or 2 people in a crew who speak any Engilsh at all, and even then, it's often not much.

My vocational rehabilitation counselor is pushing me to learn Spanish along with my other courses...

http://www.commonsenseonmassim...ticles/art_walker.html

http://www.fairus.org/site/Pag...rationissuecenters0b9c
 
I went out today to the grocery store and thats at about 12pm, the local grocery store has a deli and thats where all the mostly illegals go for lunch.
Outside there is a farmer with a truck and a sign, workers wanted.
I asked him what hes paying, he said "5.00 hour, paid at the end of the day"

There is no way he is doing taxes, checking docs, etc he is just after the cheap labor.
So someone working 40 hours a week for him, he only pays 200.00

Might not seem like enough to live off of, but the trick is that if 6 or seven of them get together and live in the same house, thats 1200 a week household income.
Sometimes I think they are way smarter than me, working and paying taxes, etc.

 
I have heard of people in Phoenix, DENIED jobs beacause they couldn't speak spanish.
That is absurd first off if you come to this country the first thing you need to do is learn to speak english, all business govermental and legal is usually done in english.

That is why wages have gone down beacause of ILLEGAL immigration, its not jobs Americans won't do but beacause of the illlegal immigration has forced the wages so low.
 
Originally posted by: Modelworks
I went out today to the grocery store and thats at about 12pm, the local grocery store has a deli and thats where all the mostly illegals go for lunch.
Outside there is a farmer with a truck and a sign, workers wanted.
I asked him what hes paying, he said "5.00 hour, paid at the end of the day"

There is no way he is doing taxes, checking docs, etc he is just after the cheap labor.
So someone working 40 hours a week for him, he only pays 200.00

Might not seem like enough to live off of, but the trick is that if 6 or seven of them get together and live in the same house, thats 1200 a week household income.
Sometimes I think they are way smarter than me, working and paying taxes, etc.
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So you're saying you wish that you made $5.00 an hour and lived in a studio apartment with 6 or 7 other people? Something is telling me this dream could be yours if you only reached out and grabbed it. Take it! The future is yours!
 
Originally posted by: scott
all business govermental and legal is usually done in english. - Rustler
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You mean formerly.

Here in California, much (most?) Governmental and schools stuff is in English AND Spanish. We are bending over backwards to make everything welcoming and easy for the illegal immigrants.

And where I live, a lot of the staff in those kinds of offices barely speak English.



I had to go get a replacement Social Security card. Immediately in front ot me were 2 Mexicans. On the wall by the service window a sign said what was NOT ALLOWED as proof of citizenship, specifically including "mail addressed to you."

When the 2 Mexicans reached the service window, where the SS employee was a young Mexican woman, they all talked in Spanish only. I can speak Spanish about 50% so I understood much of it.

The 2 guys had NO proof of citizenship. They showed here an envelope addressed to one of the 2 guys. After a couple of minutes she accepted that on the spot (remember the sign explicitly prohibiting that) and gave the guy what he wanted. It was either a US Social Security card or something provisional to get one.

I was going to complain to the manager, until I saw that he was Mexican too, so I just left angry.

For the record, this happened at the US Social Security office in Paseo Nuevo in Santa Barbara, California about 5 years ago and I'm STILL angry about it. If anybody ever wants to pursue it I am willing to testify to this.
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Let me get this straight. you are still angry about a conversation which you admit you only understood 50% and happended five years ago. BUt You didnt bring this "solid evidence" :roll: to the manager because you assumed he was Mexican?

I agree you have issues, but i dont think they have anyting to do with Immigration (legal or illegal)
 
Originally posted by: scott
"Hope" and "Joy" to you too.

trying to be provocative are we?
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provocative no, but i am still laughing...i could continue but too many things to do.
 
Scott I know your pain, my wife works for the LA County and tells me about how Hispanic county workers will treat other Hispanics needing help. It?s the same if you are employed were there are a lot of Hispanics, nepotism runs rampant and they will talk in Spanish even though they know English just to make it a pain. This one white guy at an old job spoke fluent Spanish and let the employees think he didn?t know what they were saying for 6 month and then dropped the bomb on them they never spoke to him again it was funny hell the look on their faces.

Another employer I had also promoted a Hispanic to the position of district manager, within 3 years every employee under him is Hispanic, before it was a even mix across the board.

 
some of you guys are coming off like complete Xenophobes..

There is no official US language, there is no official US race or ethnicity.

All races and ethnicities are welcome here. Of course there is an illegal immigration problem, but that is not necessarily a hispanic problem. If you cannot make the distinction you should back out of the thread and go educate yourself.

We can't make the problem with illegal immigration into a problem with the hispanic culture. It sounds like some of you kids are doing exactly that.
 
Originally posted by: OrByte
some of you guys are coming off like complete Xenophobes..

There is no official US language, there is no official US race or ethnicity.

All races and ethnicities are welcome here. Of course there is an illegal immigration problem, but that is not necessarily a hispanic problem. If you cannot make the distinction you should back out of the thread and go educate yourself.

We can't make the problem with illegal immigration into a problem with the hispanic culture. It sounds like some of you kids are doing exactly that.
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Personally, I don't give a shit if they're Mexican, Guatemalan, Chinese, Irish, Canadian, or Martians...If they're here illegally, they should be deported. No exceptions, no excuses, pack them in a box and send them home...boxcar, pine box...let them make that decision.
 
Originally posted by: OrByte
some of you guys are coming off like complete Xenophobes..

There is no official US language, there is no official US race or ethnicity.

All races and ethnicities are welcome here. Of course there is an illegal immigration problem, but that is not necessarily a hispanic problem. If you cannot make the distinction you should back out of the thread and go educate yourself.

We can't make the problem with illegal immigration into a problem with the hispanic culture. It sounds like some of you kids are doing exactly that.
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I?m sure I do sound Xenophobic at times it just comes from getting pissed of when you have seen the area you?ve grown up in change in less than one generation, and you are always having pro-Mexico propaganda thrown in your face. For the most part I have lived around Hispanics most of my life with no problem. Its different now, instead of just regular what I would call American Hispanics, I see more and more Hispanics that don?t care about America, its culture, or its language, and just think that this area will all go back to Mexico. We see it on a daily basis and it pisses us off sometimes, maybe when I move out of here and a decade goes by I won?t care anymore.
 
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