Method Man and Redman react to 55k a month Child Support judgement

[Corporate Thug]

Originally posted by: Glitchny

Originally posted by: Corporate Thug

Originally posted by: Glitchny

Originally posted by: darkxshade
That's almost 12 million by the time the child is 18. :Q

yea I think that's what they are getting at. What idiot judge thought this was an acceptable amount? Hell 55k a YEAR for child support would be enough.

I imagine it took place in NY so I'm not sure how the procedure works there, but in CA, judges use a computer program to calculate the support (it's not discretionary, it's based on a set formula).

Well that formula is crap. Apparently it is based on the fathers income, and not the actual needs of raising a child.

Father's income, mother's income, father's monthly expenses, mother's monthly expenses, and % of custody, AFAIK.

 

[Dumac]

And people wonder why I hate child support laws..

 

[seemingly random]

Originally posted by: Marlin1975

Originally posted by: seemingly random

Originally posted by: rasczak
someone was stupid enough to marry without a prenup.

There is no point in getting married if a pre-nup is needed. This implies that one or both think the marriage won't last. They should just live together or part ways.

Then I guess by your theory no one should ever buy car or house insurance. Buying insurance implies soemthign bad will happen right?

I didn't go into marriage thinking I was buying a wife.

On the other hand, there is the ever so slight chance that your mate will have a change of heart later or was really in it for financial gain from the beginning. I guess it mostly boils down to how good of a judge of character one is.

 

[Dumac]

Originally posted by: seemingly random

Originally posted by: Marlin1975

Originally posted by: seemingly random

Originally posted by: rasczak
someone was stupid enough to marry without a prenup.

There is no point in getting married if a pre-nup is needed. This implies that one or both think the marriage won't last. They should just live together or part ways.

Then I guess by your theory no one should ever buy car or house insurance. Buying insurance implies soemthign bad will happen right?

I didn't go into marriage thinking I was buying a wife.

On the other hand, there is the ever so slight chance that your mate will have a change of heart later or was really in it for financial gain from the beginning. I guess it mostly boils down to how good of a judge of character one is.

A marriage is a financial contract, and you should treat it as one.

 

[effowe]

Thinking that the story sounded kind of off, I looked for the actual news story. Here's an excerpt from the AP.

LOS ANGELES ? A judge has ordered Nas to pay Kelis nearly $40,000 in monthly support for the near future, a day after the "Milkshake" singer gave birth to the divorcing couple's baby boy.

Los Angeles Superior Court Judge Louis Meisinger issued the order at a Thursday hearing. Neither Nas, whose full name is Nasir Jones, nor Kelis, whose full name is Kelis Rogers, attended Thursday's hearing.

Rogers will receive $30,471 in spousal support per month; the couple's son will receive $9,027, according to the court records.

Rogers gave birth to the boy, named Knight, at a New York hospital Wednesday. The 29-year-old filed for divorce from the rapper in April. The couple was married in July 2003.

The two have been sparring over support payments for several months, with Rogers contending that Jones hasn't paid many of the costs of her pregnancy and her expenses. His attorney, Mark Vincent Kaplan, told the judge that the rapper has paid $30,000 in expenses and the former couple's health insurance has been maintained.

A hearing on whether the payments should be altered will be heard on Sept. 8.

So he isn't paying that much per month, and it's until Sept. 8th when a judge will decide what he will be paying after that.

Source

 

[seemingly random]

Originally posted by: Dumac

Originally posted by: seemingly random

Originally posted by: Marlin1975

Originally posted by: seemingly random

Originally posted by: rasczak
someone was stupid enough to marry without a prenup.

There is no point in getting married if a pre-nup is needed. This implies that one or both think the marriage won't last. They should just live together or part ways.

Then I guess by your theory no one should ever buy car or house insurance. Buying insurance implies soemthign bad will happen right?

I didn't go into marriage thinking I was buying a wife.

On the other hand, there is the ever so slight chance that your mate will have a change of heart later or was really in it for financial gain from the beginning. I guess it mostly boils down to how good of a judge of character one is.

A marriage is a financial contract, and you should treat it as one.

Pretty fucking cold, man. Seems that mistrust is being announced at the onset. I couldn't disagree more - unless, the marriage is being done for non-romantic reasons (and both parties know it) - like trying to help a foreign national bypass immigration, etc.

 

[Dumac]

Originally posted by: seemingly random

Originally posted by: Dumac
A marriage is a financial contract, and you should treat it as one.

Pretty fucking cold, man. Seems that mistrust is being announced at the onset. I couldn't disagree more - unless, the marriage is being done for non-romantic reasons (and both parties know it) - like trying to help a foreign national bypass immigration, etc.

It isn't a dispute. A marriage is a financial contract. Want to make it about love, romance, rainbows, and butterflies, then why don't we remove legislation about marriage? The government has no place in marriage, and since currently marriage effects every single aspect of your financial life legally, what you are signing is a binding legal financial contract. It isn't cold; it is the truth.

Prenups are almost useless anyway, are they are easily thrown out. But no one should go into a marriage without thinking about it in fiscal terms as a financial contract. That is just being irresponsible, and leads to regret and a bad marriage.

 

[wiredspider]

I think I read earlier it was more like $40k for spousal support and only $10k for the kid, don't want to look it up though.

 

[QueBert]

Redman is comedy, the anger here is great.

"5 grand a month the baby could be dip for school every single day" - Meth
"Shit 2 grand a month for how I shop" Red

55k a month, shit let me be that baby I'll be 5 years old with the sickest CrossfireX system ever.

lol these 2 are funny together, some director should get them together and make How High II.

 

[seemingly random]

Originally posted by: Dumac

Originally posted by: seemingly random

Originally posted by: Dumac
A marriage is a financial contract, and you should treat it as one.

Pretty fucking cold, man. Seems that mistrust is being announced at the onset. I couldn't disagree more - unless, the marriage is being done for non-romantic reasons (and both parties know it) - like trying to help a foreign national bypass immigration, etc.

It isn't a dispute. A marriage is a financial contract. Want to make it about love, romance, rainbows, and butterflies, then why don't we remove legislation about marriage? The government has no place in marriage, and since currently marriage effects every single aspect of your financial life legally, what you are signing is a binding legal financial contract. It isn't cold; it is the truth.

Prenups are almost useless anyway, are they are easily thrown out. But no one should go into a marriage without thinking about it in fiscal terms as a financial contract. That is just being irresponsible, and leads to regret and a bad marriage.

I figured this was going this way. I agree with most of what you said. We should probably save this for another thread.

 

[Corporate Thug]

Originally posted by: QueBert
Redman is comedy, the anger here is great.

"5 grand a month the baby could be dip for school every single day" - Meth
"Shit 2 grand a month for how I shop" Red

55k a month, shit let me be that baby I'll be 5 years old with the sickest CrossfireX system ever.

lol these 2 are funny together, some director should get them together and make How High II.

Just follow them w/ a camera on any given day

 

[magomago]

damnnnn....wtf gold digger. Shouldn't it be obvious to the judge? Even 100k/year is plenty for cali! I'd love to be pulling that right now and then having someone tell me that I still can't enjoy life.

 

[Lonyo]

Originally posted by: effowe
Thinking that the story sounded kind of off, I looked for the actual news story. Here's an excerpt from the AP.

LOS ANGELES ? A judge has ordered Nas to pay Kelis nearly $40,000 in monthly support for the near future, a day after the "Milkshake" singer gave birth to the divorcing couple's baby boy.

Los Angeles Superior Court Judge Louis Meisinger issued the order at a Thursday hearing. Neither Nas, whose full name is Nasir Jones, nor Kelis, whose full name is Kelis Rogers, attended Thursday's hearing.

Rogers will receive $30,471 in spousal support per month; the couple's son will receive $9,027, according to the court records.

Rogers gave birth to the boy, named Knight, at a New York hospital Wednesday. The 29-year-old filed for divorce from the rapper in April. The couple was married in July 2003.

The two have been sparring over support payments for several months, with Rogers contending that Jones hasn't paid many of the costs of her pregnancy and her expenses. His attorney, Mark Vincent Kaplan, told the judge that the rapper has paid $30,000 in expenses and the former couple's health insurance has been maintained.

A hearing on whether the payments should be altered will be heard on Sept. 8.

So he isn't paying that much per month, and it's until Sept. 8th when a judge will decide what he will be paying after that.

Source

Fuck that, why is he paying HER $30,000 and the kid only getting $10,000?
Nas should say "I'll pay $30k for the kid, and then $5 for an auditor to check that the money is going on the kid and not on Kelis. Anything left over can go in a fund for the kid when it grows up".

Also can't Kelis make money herself? She's a singer as well, and arguably it's not like having a baby is going to prevent her going to the studio a couple of times a week to sing the songs other people write for her. Only thing she can't do is tour.

If Nas was rich and his wife a pauper, then maybe I could understand her getting money, but screw giving Kelis $30k while the kid gets $9k.

 

[Gooberlx2]

Liquidate everything, move to a non-extraditing country.

 

[zerocool84]

Alimony needs to stop and child support payments need to seriously be overhauled. Things like this are ridiculous. Yes there are bad guys out there who don't pay it but there are bad women who make sure they milk the guy for all he has. I know of many men and have heard on the radio of guys that pay so much child support for just one child that they can barely live on their own and had to move back home while the chick gets a new car and is living a great life.

 

[xSauronx]

yeah there was another CS thread recently, and i say what i said then...that amount of money is fucking insane for child support and/or alimony. i dont care what lifestyle a lady was accustomed to or what a child would receive if they lived with the father, if a woman wants to take care of the child by herself, half the child support should come from her. if the father is that much better off *he* should get custody.

55K a month is insane. 2k a month, maybe as high as 5, but this lady wont have to do *anything* for the rest of her life just because she got knocked up by a rich guy, and thats ridiculous.

 

[lifeobry]

Wrap it up tight or goodnight (to your monies)

 

[PlasmaBomb]

Originally posted by: effowe
Well yeah they have a point. I don't know what in the hell one would do with 55k a month. There is no way in hell the baby needs that much for "support." It's all going to Kelis. I thought she had a nice chunk of change on her own.

Surely the laws should have some kind of cap? It would be cheaper to raise the kid than pay some of these "support" costs...

 

[PlasmaBomb]

Originally posted by: darkxshade
That's almost 12 million by the time the child is 18. :Q

I can haz lump sum discountz?

 

[ChaoZ]

Originally posted by: xSauronx
yeah there was another CS thread recently, and i say what i said then...that amount of money is fucking insane for child support and/or alimony. i dont care what lifestyle a lady was accustomed to or what a child would receive if they lived with the father, if a woman wants to take care of the child by herself, half the child support should come from her. if the father is that much better off *he* should get custody.

55K a month is insane. 2k a month, maybe as high as 5, but this lady wont have to do *anything* for the rest of her life just because she got knocked up by a rich guy, and thats ridiculous.

That's what I don't understand about divorces. The woman always gets the kids even if the man is a better parent. The only way she could lose custody is if she's batshit crazy.

 

[Aharami]

Originally posted by: AccruedExpenditure

Originally posted by: rasczak
someone was stupid enough to marry without a prenup.

Not limited to just rappers.

Marc Leder, the co-founder of private-equity powerhouse Sun Capital Partners, has had better years, Wife turns down 100M settlement

WTF?! she cheated on him, moved their kids w/o telling him, now wants 50% of the company he built?! on top of all the shit he's agreed to split with her!?!

 

[paperfist]

"50 grand for some *****"

lol with an attitude about woman like that I hope she bleeds more out of him then that.

What's more absurd is the amount of money he made from being a rapper

Seriously though, if you're filthy rich and are currently accustom to living a nice life style then why shouldn't your children too? If you didn't think it should be like that then keep it in your pants.

 

[Dumac]

Originally posted by: paperfist
"50 grand for some *****"

lol with an attitude about woman like that I hope she bleeds more out of him then that.

What's more absurd is the amount of money he made from being a rapper

Seriously though, if you're filthy rich and are currently accustom to living a nice life style then why shouldn't your children too? If you didn't think it should be like that then keep it in your pants.

I've been waiting for you this whole thread, Mr 693 posts in almost 9 years. You sure do use them effectively.

 

[paperfist]

Originally posted by: Dumac

Originally posted by: paperfist
"50 grand for some *****"

lol with an attitude about woman like that I hope she bleeds more out of him then that.

What's more absurd is the amount of money he made from being a rapper

Seriously though, if you're filthy rich and are currently accustom to living a nice life style then why shouldn't your children too? If you didn't think it should be like that then keep it in your pants.

I've been waiting for you this whole thread, Mr 693 posts in almost 9 years. You sure do use them effectively.

So that makes me a bad person or something?

 

[AccruedExpenditure]

Originally posted by: Aharami

Originally posted by: AccruedExpenditure

Originally posted by: rasczak
someone was stupid enough to marry without a prenup.

Not limited to just rappers.

Marc Leder, the co-founder of private-equity powerhouse Sun Capital Partners, has had better years, Wife turns down 100M settlement

WTF?! she cheated on him, moved their kids w/o telling him, now wants 50% of the company he built?! on top of all the shit he's agreed to split with her!?!

Yep. Super fair
-AE