Metallica, Red Hot Chili Peppers spurn Apple's ITUNE

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alkemyst

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Artists want their music heard not just the hits. That's the main driving force on this. They really don't make their cash from record sales and if no one knows other songs then noone wants to pay $15-50+ to hear one song.

The whole music industry is screwed up by the executives and not so much the artists. Many times the first 'hit' an artist has let's him move up in life a little, but the real money is made by the record company.

Now you have companies like Clear Channel controlling what we hear on the radio and that affects artists too...they can no longer create their own recording companies as easily because 1) Clear Channel won't play it 2) they can't get distibution to the big shops like Best Buy and the like and 3) with many auditoriums being bought out by #1 and #2 they have no where to play.

There is a lot going on in the music industry and the sad part is the artist has become their prize horse and nothing else.
 

dawks

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Originally posted by: rh71
Originally posted by: Chadder007
Originally posted by: rh71
The article goes on to say Green Day and Linkin Park also refuse this iTunes service.

I know that if I put much time and effort into an album, I wouldn't want it sold as singles, unless I CHOOSE too. That's what single releases are for. If iTunes were to sell only the singles I release as singles, I'd be okay with it.

So you like buying whole albums only to find there are two songs worth a crap on it?? This is just creating the artists more competition to make better songs. They just don't like it that no one will have to also be purchasing their lousey tracks on ITUNE.
I'm arguing for principle, obviously. I think I've bought 5-7 albums in my entire life, and that was just 2 bands... because I support them.


Dont forget, your favorite band is also only getting $1-2 maximum from that $15-20 you just spent on the CD. Great support for them! I guess someones gotta buy that RIAA exec a new BMW.. Might as well be you or me. Not.

I wonder how well Apples store pays to the artists...
 

tokamak

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maybe they should stop worrying about what Apple is doing and start worrying about making albums with 15 songs that people actually want to hear.

<edit> wow 5 million songs. iTunes is more popular than i thought. </edit>
 

Dedpuhl

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Originally posted by: tokamak
maybe they should stop worrying about what Apple is doing and start worrying about making albums with 15 songs that people actually want to hear.

<edit> wow 5 million songs. iTunes is more popular than i thought. </edit>

At first I hated Metallica's St. Anger. After buying it and listening to it a few times, I like all 12 songs. Too bad I can't say the same for all the CDs I have.

It's also a shame that Metallica and the others don't want to embrace the technology....
 

Ns1

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i actually like alot of rhcp songs that aren't released as singles ^_^
 

notfred

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That's odd, there are already albums in iTunes that will only let you buy the complete album, and not just individual tracks from it.
 

piku

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Originally posted by: Dudd
I'm not against downloading music, I have a *cough* small *cough* collection myself, but if slapping together an album is so easy, why do these bands not make great albums all the time? People talk about music as if it is the same as a car. It's not as simple as telling GM to spend a little more on better interior materials. Making good songs is a creative process, and you can't simply will yourself to do it. Either you have the talent or you don't, but it's not as simple as some people make it out to be.
If they can't hack it then they need to find a new job. Engineering is hard too, but that doesn't mean people who suck at it should be allowed to make it their profession.
 

WinkOsmosis

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Originally posted by: abaez
Once online music buying goes really mainstream, bands who don't offer individual songs will not be nearly as successful as bands who do.
If the consumer demands it, "corporate America" will bow to their wishes, after all they are after the dollar. Would they rather have a person who buys 5-6 songs or someone who doesn't buy anything because they are forced to buy 13 songs?

People will buy the 13 songs, because industry controls consumers, not the other way around.
 

sandorski

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Originally posted by: Eli
*shrug*

Their music, their choice.

Yup. Some bands make good whole albums, some albums make more sense as a whole. I can't vouch for the bands mentioned though, since I've never bought one of their albums.
 

tokamak

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Originally posted by: piku
Originally posted by: Dudd
I'm not against downloading music, I have a *cough* small *cough* collection myself, but if slapping together an album is so easy, why do these bands not make great albums all the time? People talk about music as if it is the same as a car. It's not as simple as telling GM to spend a little more on better interior materials. Making good songs is a creative process, and you can't simply will yourself to do it. Either you have the talent or you don't, but it's not as simple as some people make it out to be.
If they can't hack it then they need to find a new job. Engineering is hard too, but that doesn't mean people who suck at it should be allowed to make it their profession.

true, but bad engineers aren't force-fed to consumers by clear channel/riaa...