Melania Trump Plagiarized Her Convention Speech From Michelle Obama

[pcgeek11]

Hence the reason he wasn't charged with treason

Follow the conversation. This is the post I was replying to:

On a side note, people flustered over the email thing simply don't understand how criminal justice works. Central to the idea of a crime is mens rea in addition to actus reus, the act itself. There's no evidence that clinton had any treasonous intent, without which any prosecution was going to be untenable.

Which I responded:

That is simply not true.

Patreus had no treasonous intent...

He was in fact charged for a crime... and paid the price.

 

[pcgeek11]

And what does that means to you?

You tell me, since you claim to know it all.

 

[agent00f]

That is simply not true.

Patreus had no treasonous intent...

Maybe you're just slow, so it might help to read all of what I wrote again. If it's still too hard, imagine you take a cookie from a store thinking it was a free sample or it got hidden under other goods you paid for or it wasn't clear either way. That's different than shoplifting even if the act of removing the cookie from the store is same.

 

[WHAMPOM]

Does anyone remember Reagan's "Make this country great again" speech?

 

[Londo_Jowo]

Does anyone remember Reagan's "Make this country great again" speech?

Nope, never heard of it.

 

[compuwiz1]

Ronnie didn't trade mark it. Trump did.


http://money.cnn.com/2015/10/08/investing/donald-trump-make-america-great-again-trademark/

Is a non trademarked or non copyrighted work protected against plagiarism by law? Interestingly enough, it looks like Trump applied for the trade mark of Make America Great Again, right after Romney lost to Obama. This leads me to think that Trump was planning to run for POTUS long before announcing it.

 

[ivwshane]

You tell me, since you claim to know it all.

You brought it up.

 

[pcgeek11]

Maybe you're just slow, so it might help to read all of what I wrote again. If it's still too hard, imagine you take a cookie from a store thinking it was a free sample or it got hidden under other goods you paid for or it wasn't clear either way. That's different than shoplifting even if the act of removing the cookie from the store is same.

That is not applicable to Hillary's e-mail problem. That is just your biased opinion.

 

[pcgeek11]

You brought it up.

Are you that slow?

Well, I guess you are.

 

[agent00f]

That is not applicable to Hillary's e-mail problem. That is just your biased opinion.

I'm informing you how the law works, but now I see information makes no difference here.

 

[dank69]

"I did not have sexual relations with that woman".

At least lying about something like that makes logical sense, in that he was trying to keep his personal life out of the spotlight, since it was nobody's goddamned business in the first place. Meanwhile we have Trump, and now his spouse, lying about shit so trivial that there is literally no benefit to telling the lie in the first place.

 

[openwheel]

so has Trump grown a pair and apologized? Or does he still have tiny hands?

 

[Perknose]

so has Trump grown a pair and apologized? Or does he still have tiny hands?

The tiniest! Which spells doom for his campaign, since he's a hands-on kind of guy. D:

 

[flexy]

so has Trump grown a pair and apologized? Or does he still have tiny hands?

You will NEVER hear an apology from Trump. A sociopath does not/can not do wrong and thus will never apologize, EVER.

 

[piasabird]

What makes you think Michelle Obama's speech was all that unique? They all use professional speech writers.

 

[openwheel]

What makes you think Michelle Obama's speech was all that unique? They all use professional speech writers.

Didn't you get the memo? Michelle Obama time traveled to 2016 and stole Melania's speech for herself in 2008.

Get it?

 

[fskimospy]

What makes you think Michelle Obama's speech was all that unique? They all use professional speech writers.

'Not all that unique' and plagiarized are two totally different things.

When you wrote a paper on the civil war in high school it probably wasn't 'all that unique'. That doesn't mean you shouldn't get an F if you just copied someone else's work.

 

[piasabird]

Almost sounded like a speech Kerry gave when He claimed he was a patriot war hero in viet nam.

 

[Pens1566]

Almost sounded like a speech Kerry gave when He claimed he was a patriot war hero in viet nam.

 

[Knowing]

The intervention in Libya was primarily conducted by the UK and France, but that's mostly beside the point/

Libya was already in the midst of a civil war before any western intervention happened so blaming western intervention as the cause of the current chaos is dubious. Chaos was already there.

Odd, that's not the result of analysis by Foreign Affairs. The chaos was winding down and Qaddafi said there wouldn't be revenge killings. You might remember him, Hillary said "We came, we saw, he died." He didn't just die, he was sodomized with a knife. Compare and contrast with Saddam Hussein's trial and hanging.

And it's not like Foreign Affairs was the only source of criticism. Here's the New York Times.

Mrs. Clinton was won over. Opposition leaders “said all the right things about supporting democracy and inclusivity and building Libyan institutions, providing some hope that we might be able to pull this off,” said Philip H. Gordon, one of her assistant secretaries. “They gave us what we wanted to hear. And you do want to believe.”
Her conviction would be critical in persuading Mr. Obama to join allies in bombing Colonel Qaddafi’s forces. In fact, Mr. Obama’s defense secretary, Robert M. Gates, would later say that in a “51-49” decision, it was Mrs. Clinton’s support that put the ambivalent president over the line.
The consequences would be more far-reaching than anyone imagined, leaving Libya a failed state and a terrorist haven, a place where the direst answers to Mrs. Clinton’s questions have come to pass.

This is really curious to me, since she was already burned by those dastardly republicans in to supporting the Iraq war she was convinced again by desert people who (sad trombone) turned out to be actual terrorists.


NYT again:

Mrs. Clinton declined to be interviewed. But in public, she has said it is “too soon to tell” how things will turn out in Libya and has called for a more interventionist approach in Syria.

Sounds hawkish to me. I'm sure she didn't intend for all of those people to die, but her carelessness is beginning to fatigue me.

 

[Jhhnn]

Nope, never heard of it.

Repubs are always trying to drag America back to the good old days, a mythical time that never was-

 

[Fanatical Meat]

What makes you think Michelle Obama's speech was all that unique? They all use professional speech writers.

I didn't hear her whole speech but I did hear most of it, for an amateur with an accent she did very well and I hate the Eastern European accent so that's saying alot. She/Trump should roll back claims she wrote the majority herself and knowledge some material was lifted either unknowingly or unintentionally its a pretty simple thing to do, why on earth does admitting a mistake or error so difficult?

 

[Jhhnn]

I didn't hear her whole speech but I did hear most of it, for an amateur with an accent she did very well and I hate the Eastern European accent so that's saying alot. She/Trump should roll back claims she wrote the majority herself and knowledge some material was lifted either unknowingly or unintentionally its a pretty simple thing to do, why on earth does admitting a mistake or error so difficult?

Conservatives rarely admit to mistakes. Sociopaths, never.

 

[emperus]

I didn't hear her whole speech but I did hear most of it, for an amateur with an accent she did very well and I hate the Eastern European accent so that's saying alot. She/Trump should roll back claims she wrote the majority herself and knowledge some material was lifted either unknowingly or unintentionally its a pretty simple thing to do, why on earth does admitting a mistake or error so difficult?

The problem is per the reporting.

1.) She initially claimed she mostly wrote it herself. There's audio of her saying that and tough to roll back without making her further look like a liar.
2.) It has been reported that she scrubbed the initial speech and asked a friend of hers to help write rewrite it.

 

[HomerJS]

i didn't hear her whole speech but i did hear most of it, for an amateur with an accent she did very well and i hate the eastern european accent so that's saying alot. She/trump should roll back claims she wrote the majority herself and knowledge some material was lifted either unknowingly or unintentionally its a pretty simple thing to do, why on earth does admitting a mistake or error so difficult?

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