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[buck]

Originally posted by: LS21

Originally posted by: buck

Many many people have abused this, thats why they are like this.

Same reason Costco got rid of their old warranties, people abused the shit out of it, so the people who legitimately had a problem got screwed.

Doc recommendation against flying is not an abuse. Unless docs have been issuing no-fly notes like halloween candy

Costco has absolutely zero relevance there. Their policy was not for customer "protection". Their policy states simply return anything, anytime. And people did.

First off, I never said or implied that what the OP was doing is an abuse, try reading next time. As for the rest, Zeeky Boogy Doog did a good job of dumbing it down for you.

 

[dabuddha]

Originally posted by: tm37

Originally posted by: ColdFusion718
You people need to get off your soapbox. Let's see how you feel when you're in the same situation.

The ticket class I buy allows me to change for a $50 change fee. Not sure what will happen when NWA and Delta fully merge but even when I travel on my dime I book through the agent so that I get the perks I want (it cost a few bucks more) and one of them is the ability to change my ticket.

Why anyone would buy a ticket that is non refundible when they are 5 months pregnant is beyond me.

I also do not feel bad for people that lose there house because the payment is $1500 and they make 2k a month.

Sometimes you have to learn.

This was pointed out in a later post but not in my OP. When we booked the tickets, I hadn't knocked up my wife yet

 

[alkemyst]

Why are full-priced tickets for business travelers? Isn't that the purpose of business class? Oh let me guess corporations should subsidize for cheaper tickets for the casual traveller.

Just a hint since your wife is pregnant...expect your plans to be changed at a moments notice due to that condition and plan accordingly.

 

[LS21]

Originally posted by: alkemyst
Why are full-priced tickets for business travelers? Isn't that the purpose of business class? Oh let me guess corporations should subsidize for cheaper tickets for the casual traveller.

Even within premium class there are sub-stratifications of restricted and unrestricted fares. Either way the difference between that and "full-fare economy" is high.

In practice, it happens that corporate purchases do end up virtually subsidizing discount travelers as there are very few leisure travelers that purchase full fare tickest (Y, F, C, etc)

 

[alkemyst]

It's not so much the more expensive seats are covering the cheaper, it has to do with those stratifications you mentioned. Need a ticket that may need to be changed, pay the extra fee. Need a ticket at the last minute, you may get a great deal or a terrible one.

 

[LS21]

Originally posted by: alkemyst
It's not so much the more expensive seats are covering the cheaper, it has to do with those stratifications you mentioned. Need a ticket that may need to be changed, pay the extra fee. Need a ticket at the last minute, you may get a great deal or a terrible one.

i may have last-minute personal or professional obligations = i pay extra fee
i dont expect anything disruption to travel schedule = i pay lowest fare, just like 95% of other travelers

wife was in 2nd trimester. it was not a circumstance with REASONABLE expectation of interruption.

 

[alkemyst]

Originally posted by: LS21

Originally posted by: alkemyst
It's not so much the more expensive seats are covering the cheaper, it has to do with those stratifications you mentioned. Need a ticket that may need to be changed, pay the extra fee. Need a ticket at the last minute, you may get a great deal or a terrible one.

i may have last-minute personal or professional obligations = i pay extra fee
i dont expect anything disruption to travel schedule = i pay lowest fare, just like 95% of other travelers

wife was in 2nd trimester. it was not a circumstance with REASONABLE expectation of interruption.

no one expects to be interrupted. If you don't pay for the insurance (fee to change ticket) then you have to suck it up.

Someone has to eat that cost and it should be no one else but the person that caused it.

I have missed flights due to accidents on the roadway there. It's not the airports fault because of that even though I should have arrived 2 hours earlier.

I don't get why so many people today do not want to take responsibility for their own actions and demands everyone else pays for it.

 

[dabuddha]

Originally posted by: alkemyst

Originally posted by: LS21

Originally posted by: alkemyst
It's not so much the more expensive seats are covering the cheaper, it has to do with those stratifications you mentioned. Need a ticket that may need to be changed, pay the extra fee. Need a ticket at the last minute, you may get a great deal or a terrible one.

i may have last-minute personal or professional obligations = i pay extra fee
i dont expect anything disruption to travel schedule = i pay lowest fare, just like 95% of other travelers

wife was in 2nd trimester. it was not a circumstance with REASONABLE expectation of interruption.

no one expects to be interrupted. If you don't pay for the insurance (fee to change ticket) then you have to suck it up.

Someone has to eat that cost and it should be no one else but the person that caused it.

I have missed flights due to accidents on the roadway there. It's not the airports fault because of that even though I should have arrived 2 hours earlier.

I don't get why so many people today do not want to take responsibility for their own actions and demands everyone else pays for it.

Nothing to do with responsibility. An accident on the roadway is different from a doctor telling the airline that flying would probably result in a dead baby.

One of the key components to running a successful business is to not alienate your customers for something they could not have forseen. I understand what others were saying about how lots of people probably abuse the change ticket policy (lying about this or that) but my case was an actual legit case. If they had not given me the vouchers, they might have kept the $750 I spent on the tickets (assuming AMEX didn't get it back which they probably would have) but they would have lost tens of thousands of dollars. And that's not counting all the people who I would let know about the crappy customer service.

 

[alkemyst]

Originally posted by: dabuddha

Nothing to do with responsibility. An accident on the roadway is different from a doctor telling the airline that flying would probably result in a dead baby.

One of the key components to running a successful business is to not alienate your customers for something they could not have forseen. I understand what others were saying about how lots of people probably abuse the change ticket policy (lying about this or that) but my case was an actual legit case. If they had not given me the vouchers, they might have kept the $750 I spent on the tickets (assuming AMEX didn't get it back which they probably would have) but they would have lost tens of thousands of dollars. And that's not counting all the people who I would let know about the crappy customer service.

same difference. Each was an outside force. You don't have to listen to your doctor's orders either to be honest.

Flights work by being at capacity. When someone decides to bail at the last min and didn't pay the insurance, the airlines is screwed. That fee limits the blow.

Almost everyone knows a doctor today that can 'write a note'.

I will say customer service is important, but it was you that didn't buy the insurance. Also I really doubt how you are going to cost any company 10's of thousands of dollars over your own screwup.

Also chances are these were your cheapest ticket option, most are going to take the chance regardless of bad reviews...

Just a thought.

 

[dabuddha]

Originally posted by: alkemyst

Originally posted by: dabuddha

Nothing to do with responsibility. An accident on the roadway is different from a doctor telling the airline that flying would probably result in a dead baby.

One of the key components to running a successful business is to not alienate your customers for something they could not have forseen. I understand what others were saying about how lots of people probably abuse the change ticket policy (lying about this or that) but my case was an actual legit case. If they had not given me the vouchers, they might have kept the $750 I spent on the tickets (assuming AMEX didn't get it back which they probably would have) but they would have lost tens of thousands of dollars. And that's not counting all the people who I would let know about the crappy customer service.

same difference. Each was an outside force. You don't have to listen to your doctor's orders either to be honest.

Flights work by being at capacity. When someone decides to bail at the last min and didn't pay the insurance, the airlines is screwed. That fee limits the blow.

Almost everyone knows a doctor today that can 'write a note'.

Once you learn that not everything in this world and life is black and white, you'll be a much happier person

 

[alkemyst]

Originally posted by: dabuddha
Once you learn that not everything in this world and life is black and white, you'll be a much happier person

DO OVERS FOR EVERYONE! SCREW THAT YOU ARE GET TO BE ON THE TEAM!

 

[LS21]

Originally posted by: alkemyst


no one expects to be interrupted. If you don't pay for the insurance (fee to change ticket) then you have to suck it up.

Someone has to eat that cost and it should be no one else but the person that caused it.

I have missed flights due to accidents on the roadway there. It's not the airports fault because of that even though I should have arrived 2 hours earlier.

I don't get why so many people today do not want to take responsibility for their own actions and demands everyone else pays for it.

already stated: business persons and those with variable short-term schedules have reasonable expectation to be interrupted.

a flat tire isnt the same as a miscarriage. thats why there are humans working to interpret the gray areas because they can do what computers cant: reason. unfortunately, some people dont do it as well as others

 

[alkemyst]

Originally posted by: LS21

already stated: business persons and those with variable short-term schedules have reasonable expectation to be interrupted.

Business or personal you can and cannot pay for a transferable ticket.

Originally posted by: LS21
a flat tire isnt the same as a miscarriage. thats why there are humans working to interpret the gray areas because they can do what computers cant: reason. unfortunately, some people dont do it as well as others

it is to the person that missed their plane because of it.

The thing is one wants everything gray...therefore some people profit from that.