Megaupload shut down by the government.

[Ns1]

ah fuck it., ggpo thread

 

[lxskllr]

ah fuck it.

Nice edit smart ass. I'll give you a reply anyway. First off, I have enough music in various forms that I could play it 24/7, and probably not hear a track duplicated for a year. I'm not as concerned about buying music. When I do, it's through terms that I accept. In person at a bar/festival, online directly from an artist, or tracks that are freely given. If I really like what the artist that freely gives his work is doing, I'll send some money his way. How much money have you given for the free software/services you use? Wikipedia? VLC? FSF???

 

[Ns1]

Nice edit smart ass. I'll give you a reply anyway. First off, I have enough music in various forms that I could play it 24/7, and probably not hear a track duplicated for a year. I'm not as concerned about buying music. When I do, it's through terms that I accept. In person at a bar/festival, online directly from an artist, or tracks that are freely given. If I really like what the artist that freely gives his work is doing, I'll send some money his way. How much money have you given for the free software/services you use? Wikipedia? VLC? FSF???

I steal it all, like the rest of the internet

 

[WelshBloke]

Meanwhile outside the hosting server room.....

What is going on in that pic? 😀

 

[alent1234]

Nice edit smart ass. I'll give you a reply anyway. First off, I have enough music in various forms that I could play it 24/7, and probably not hear a track duplicated for a year. I'm not as concerned about buying music. When I do, it's through terms that I accept. In person at a bar/festival, online directly from an artist, or tracks that are freely given. If I really like what the artist that freely gives his work is doing, I'll send some money his way. How much money have you given for the free software/services you use? Wikipedia? VLC? FSF???

not like the artist gets 100% of that either. by the time they pay for the event costs it's about the same as what the record company gives them

this idea that artists should get close to 100% of album sales is a fantasy. the most profitable businesses in the world like apple, banks and a few others make about 15% net profits after all bills are paid for

 

[Ns1]

damn this thread.

 

[lxskllr]

not like the artist gets 100% of that either. by the time they pay for the event costs it's about the same as what the record company gives them

this idea that artists should get close to 100% of album sales is a fantasy. the most profitable businesses in the world like apple, banks and a few others make about 15% net profits after all bills are paid for

Bullshit. When you buy directly from the artist, they get way more than the pennies they get from the record company. Most artists don't get anything at all from sales. It all goes back to the record company to pay the advance they so "generously" provided. They aren't getting 100%. Bills still have to be paid, but they get far more than they do going though "official" channels.

 

[Ns1]

Bullshit. When you buy directly from the artist, they get way more than the pennies they get from the record company. Most artists don't get anything at all from sales. It all goes back to the record company to pay the advance they so "generously" provided. They aren't getting 100%. Bills still have to be paid, but they get far more than they do going though "official" channels.

So if you don't want the advance and don't want the royalties then don't play the fucking game and go indie. Front your own money for touring, front your own money for P&A, front your own damn money for print costs. and then bitch and whine when douchenozzles steal all your shit anyway.

See: louis CK for one of few successful examples of this.

 

[lxskllr]

So if you don't want the advance and don't want the royalties then don't play the fucking game and go indie. Front your own money for touring, front your own money for P&A, front your own damn money for print costs. and then bitch and whine when douchenozzles steal all your shit anyway.

See: louis CK for one of few successful examples of this.

Bands with a clue don't bitch and whine. Their supporters will support them. The rest aren't their customers, and never will be.

 

[LiuKangBakinPie]

What is going on in that pic? 😀

The commander said take cover I guess half the Chinese army went for the police car😀

 

[LiuKangBakinPie]

Bullshit. When you buy directly from the artist, they get way more than the pennies they get from the record company. Most artists don't get anything at all from sales. It all goes back to the record company to pay the advance they so "generously" provided. They aren't getting 100%. Bills still have to be paid, but they get far more than they do going though "official" channels.

Explain the Double story mansions and 20 luxury cars in the garage then. Is that what pennies buy?

 

[LiuKangBakinPie]

I don't think you understand how royalties work.

No lots of the pops samples and songs etc etc came from pre copyright era. I am referring to those.

 

[lxskllr]

Explain the Double story mansions and 20 luxury cars in the garage then. Is that what pennies buy?

No, that's what decades of hard touring, Tshirt sales, and most importantly, paying off your initial contract get you. That's also less than 1% of the musicians. For every one that makes it big under a big label, there's 100 more that go nowhere.

 

[M0oG0oGaiPan]

You're obviously not taking into account all the starving "musicians" there are in the world. A bunch of the American Idol rejects signed recording contracts. Where are they now?

What's sideshow bob from season 1 doing now? He had a recording contract and a movie and was on tv. I'm sure he has at least 15 lambos now.

 

[Gintaras]

are the feds going after all of the file storage sites? it's not like megaupload isn't one of dozens.

Feds? That' how will you call Bilderberg Group?

Some should wonder, what's in latest Bilderberg Group meeting was discussed about, and those who like to laugh at Conspiracy Theories should stop laughing...

It's coming to a "theater near you" - to YOUR REAL LIFE....

 

[LiuKangBakinPie]

No, that's what decades of hard touring, Tshirt sales, and most importantly, paying off your initial contract get you. That's also less than 1% of the musicians. For every one that makes it big under a big label, there's 100 more that go nowhere.

I thought they are loosing 500 million a year? So despite loosing over a billion in these hard working years of selling stuff the still manage to buy all that and the companies do still manage to be in the Top 500 list for richest companies?
Selling Mp3's is like selling 2nd hand underwear. My point is not to justify something thats wrong but to show that they are talking bullshit and telling plain out lies about they're losses

 

[Ns1]

I thought they are loosing 500 million a year? So despite loosing over a billion in these hard working years of selling stuff the still manage to buy all that and the companies do still manage to be in the Top 500 list for richest companies?
Selling Mp3's is like selling 2nd hand underwear. My point is not to justify something thats wrong but to show that they are talking bullshit and telling plain out lies about they're losses

it takes 1 beyonce to pay for a bunch of ruben studdards.

 

[Ns1]

😀

WASHINGTON — A founder of NinjaVideo.net, a website that provided millions of users with the ability to illegally download high-quality copies of copyright-protected movies and television programs, was sentenced today to 14 months in prison. The sentence is the result of an investigation conducted by U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement’s (ICE) Homeland Security Investigations (HSI)-led National Intellectual Property Rights Coordination Center (IPR Center).

Matthew David Howard Smith, 24, of Raleigh, N.C., was sentenced today in Alexandria, Va., by U.S. District Judge Anthony J. Trenga also ordered Smith to serve two years of supervised release following his prison term, to pay $172,387 and to forfeit to the United States five financial accounts and various computer equipment involved in the crimes. Smith pleaded guilty on Sept. 23, 2011, to conspiracy and criminal copyright infringement.

 

[RampantAndroid]

The commander said take cover I guess half the Chinese army went for the police car😀

They use AR15s? LOL.

 

[OlafSicky]

Someone pleas post pics of the fat owner balling on his private jet and then all of them doing the perp stand in OZ funny shit.

 

[QueBert]

not like the artist gets 100% of that either. by the time they pay for the event costs it's about the same as what the record company gives them

this idea that artists should get close to 100% of album sales is a fantasy. the most profitable businesses in the world like apple, banks and a few others make about 15% net profits after all bills are paid for

A lot of times they get even less, I have a neighbor in a band, they do decently well for an indie group. The thing is to do decently well they're literally doing a show somewhere every night. They would give their left testicals to be signed to a major label.

 

[Gunbuster]

A lot of times they get even less, I have a neighbor in a band, they do decently well for an indie group. The thing is to do decently well they're literally doing a show somewhere every night. They would give their left testicals to be signed to a major label.

Check out this article: http://www.negativland.com/albini.html

Your neighbor in the band would do better selling his nut on craigslist.

 

[BoberFett]

Check out this article: http://www.negativland.com/albini.html

Your neighbor in the band would do better selling his nut on craigslist.

I believe Courtney Love also wrote something similar detailing the vile underbelly of the recording industry.

 

[tboo]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...d-bail-New-Zealand-funds-seized.html?ITO=1490

Kim Dotcom was granted bail. He is still huge so it looks like he was eating well in jail. I figured he would lose a few.

 

[Sureshot324]

Summary of the FBI's case from Wikipedia:

The indictment[1][58] alleged that Megaupload differed from other online file storage businesses.

Media reports covering the case highlighted a number of points from the indictment used to support claims of illegal activity. The indictment itself provided a large number of instances alleged to show criminal behaviour, as well as indicating design points of its operating model as being evidence of criminal intent:[1]

In practice, the "vast majority" of users do not have any significant long term private storage capability. Continued storage is dependent upon regular downloads of the file occurring. Files not downloaded are rapidly removed in most cases, whereas popular downloaded files are retained. (items 7 - 8)
Because a small proportion of users pay for storage, the business is dependent upon advertising. Adverts are primarily viewed when files are downloaded and the business model is therefore not based upon storage but upon maximising downloads. (items 7 - 8)
Persons indicted have "instructed individual users how to locate links to infringing content on the Mega Sites ... [and] ... have also shared with each other comments from Mega Site users demonstrating that they have used or are attempting to use the Mega Sites to get infringing copies of copyrighted content." (item 13)
Persons indicted, unlike the public, are not reliant upon links to stored files, but can search the internal database directly. It is claimed they have "searched the internal database for their associates and themselves so that they may directly access copyright-infringing content". (item 14)
A comprehensive takedown method is in use to identify child pornography, but not deployed to remove infringing content. (item 24)
Infringing users did not have their accounts terminated, and the defendants "made no significant effort to identify users who were using the Mega Sites or services to infringe copyrights, to prevent the uploading of infringing copies of copyrighted materials, or to identify infringing copies of copyrighted works" (item 55–56)
An incentivising program was adopted encouraging the upload of "popular" files in return for payments to successful uploaders. (item 69e et al.)
Defendants explicitly discussed evasion and infringement issues, including an attempt to copy and upload the entire content of YouTube. (items 69i-l. YouTube: items 69 i,j,l,s)

Basically the FBI is saying Mega Upload may not be pirating themselves, but they are deliberately designing the site to cater to and encourage piracy because that's what brings in the most traffic. If they have a method to keep kiddie porn off their site why can't they use it to remove copyrighted content?

Not saying I agree but they have some valid points.