Focus on a real issue like a balanced budget seeing as how the republicans abandoned it completely?
Focus on a real issue like a balanced budget seeing as how the republicans abandoned it completely?
MMM, how about build a decent car with an excellent repair record? That might help too. American cars are crap. 'Cept for the trucks. I drive a chevy. :thumbsup:
Engineer
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But that's where the GOP has already won. People don't see the deficit...they don't feel it...they don't get an "extra" bill for it. As long as they get their social services (Welfare, Medicare Prescription Drug Bills, etc) "AND" they get tax breaks, then who really cares about trying to pay down deficts? Most are perfectly content to let the next generation take care of it....IMHO>
The Official end of the American Dream.
The ripping up of the Declaration of Independence:
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.
AFL-CIO Splinters
Their action drew a bitter rebuke from AFL-CIO President John Sweeney, who called it a "grievous insult" that could hurt workers already buffeted by the global economy and anti-union forces in Congress.
A number of Democratic lawmakers made their traditional pilgrimage to the AFL-CIO convention, urging unity while being careful not to take sides in the fight.
"What divides us pales in comparison to what unites us," said Sen. Edward M. Kennedy, D-Mass., pointing to efforts to fight the Bush administration on behalf of union workers.
The ripping up of the Declaration of Independence:
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.
AFL-CIO Splinters
Their action drew a bitter rebuke from AFL-CIO President John Sweeney, who called it a "grievous insult" that could hurt workers already buffeted by the global economy and anti-union forces in Congress.
A number of Democratic lawmakers made their traditional pilgrimage to the AFL-CIO convention, urging unity while being careful not to take sides in the fight.
"What divides us pales in comparison to what unites us," said Sen. Edward M. Kennedy, D-Mass., pointing to efforts to fight the Bush administration on behalf of union workers.
Thank goodness some union supporters get it:
Unfortunately, for the hundreds of thousands of good jobs permanently lost to militant unionism, let alone thousands of small businesses who owed their existance to local industry, forever marring the reputation of many communities as places to which industry will never bring quality jobs again, its too little too late.
You wont find it. It happened via pm/email. Cad complained about the moderation of thread via pm/email(the proper channel) and got banned for it.
Well China is the Technology and Production leader now.
Maybe China is a good fit for the "militant" ex-union workers that have lost their jobs?
China has ways of dealing with such riff-raff - definitively. Nothing that militant unionists haven't resorted to many-a-time to silence dissent and keep the flock nice and cohesive-like. I admit it would tickle me to see them get a taste of their own medicine.
I would think very few jobs lost to militant unionism. Most likely more lost due to lack of unionism than not. CEO's often send jobs to lower wage areas. Had those areas been unionized...the jobs probably wold not have left in the first place!
Contrary to the garbage anti-union peple spew....the vast majority of union folk want their employers to do very well. They simply want to get paid the best possible wage...not the least.
cad why are you so anti-union, in the history of this country they have been a huge help to people who have no college degree like you, look at the industrial revolution in this country, they have helepd to contribute to safe working conditions, higher wages, benefits
i agree though, they need to catch up with the times, hence the split in the afl-cio
i agree though, they need to catch up with the times, hence the split in the afl-cio
I am a Democrat for sure, but the thing about how Union works and their tie just pissed me off.
How can company compete when their employees make the same salary whether they work well or they slack off? I have seen many unioned employee cheat on sick leaves, abuse union protection, and at the end the manager won't want to deal with the crap and just kept the guys hired instead of firing them or demote them.
If you have seen how the union guys loaded equipments into trade show you will know what I talk about, they force you to go to different places just for paper work and make things as inefficient as possible. They don't even allow you to work your own stuff. I hired a few Mexicans for $50 a day and they load my truck faster than the union guys that make $120 each. I told them to keep the salary and let me do it, but they refuse....
There is a reason most people do not support union nowadays.
How can company compete when their employees make the same salary whether they work well or they slack off? I have seen many unioned employee cheat on sick leaves, abuse union protection, and at the end the manager won't want to deal with the crap and just kept the guys hired instead of firing them or demote them.
If you have seen how the union guys loaded equipments into trade show you will know what I talk about, they force you to go to different places just for paper work and make things as inefficient as possible. They don't even allow you to work your own stuff. I hired a few Mexicans for $50 a day and they load my truck faster than the union guys that make $120 each. I told them to keep the salary and let me do it, but they refuse....
There is a reason most people do not support union nowadays.
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BREAKING NEWS
UFCW breaks with AFL-CIO
Third major union to leave labor organization
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8758072/
UFCW breaks with AFL-CIO
Third major union to leave labor organization
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8758072/
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