Mega-Union AFL-CIO imploding?

[CADsortaGUY]

5 AFL-CIO unions form dissident group

I actually agree with some of the statements being made by the groups threatening to leave.

"Our world has changed. The world that all workers live in has changed, but quite frankly the labor movement has not changed to meet the changes," said Joe Hansen, president of the United Food and Commercial Workers union.

I agree. Plus there is the whole politics issue of things.

the dissidents reply that unions' much beefed-up political efforts in recent years have neither helped them nor put their candidates into office.

Might be time for labor to get back to working for the workers instead of playing politics...no?

CsG

 

[Crimson]

Unions need to adapt in order to survive.. they could still have a place if they realize the world has changed.

 

[Kerouactivist]

Originally posted by: Crimson
Unions need to adapt in order to survive.. they could still have a place if they realize the world has changed.

Rhettttttt...or....ric....

 

[Crimson]

Originally posted by: bthorny

Originally posted by: Crimson
Unions need to adapt in order to survive.. they could still have a place if they realize the world has changed.

Rhettttttt...or....ric....

T R U T H

 

[Kerouactivist]

Originally posted by: Crimson

Originally posted by: bthorny

Originally posted by: Crimson
Unions need to adapt in order to survive.. they could still have a place if they realize the world has changed.

Rhettttttt...or....ric....

T R U T H

you are corect sir that is Rhettttttt orr........ric...

 

[1EZduzit]

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
5 AFL-CIO unions form dissident group

I actually agree with some of the statements being made by the groups threatening to leave.

"Our world has changed. The world that all workers live in has changed, but quite frankly the labor movement has not changed to meet the changes," said Joe Hansen, president of the United Food and Commercial Workers union.

I agree. Plus there is the whole politics issue of things.

the dissidents reply that unions' much beefed-up political efforts in recent years have neither helped them nor put their candidates into office.

Might be time for labor to get back to working for the workers instead of playing politics...no?

CsG

Hardly. It's time for the unions to go global. If it works for businesses, it'll work for unions also.

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: 1EZduzit

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
5 AFL-CIO unions form dissident group

I actually agree with some of the statements being made by the groups threatening to leave.

"Our world has changed. The world that all workers live in has changed, but quite frankly the labor movement has not changed to meet the changes," said Joe Hansen, president of the United Food and Commercial Workers union.

I agree. Plus there is the whole politics issue of things.

the dissidents reply that unions' much beefed-up political efforts in recent years have neither helped them nor put their candidates into office.

Might be time for labor to get back to working for the workers instead of playing politics...no?

CsG

Hardly. It's time for the unions to go global. If it works for businesses, it'll work for unions also.

So they shouldn't be getting back to working for the workers? You want them to go global instead?
Don't you see that the Unions have marginalized themselves with their politics - thus compromising their "working for workers"?

Oh well, if they don't want to wake up to reality - they can continue to decline - just remember that they had plenty of opportunity to change so it's no one's fault but their own.

CsG

 

[Engineer]

Let the damn thing implode or explode. You're exactly right (gulp)...Unions playing too much politics and have too much power at the top....the little man at the bottom is more a tool for the top than the top being a tool for the average man.

IMO!

 

[Train]

It doesnt help that the UAW recently gave themselves a huge public relations black eye in Detroit:

Marines driven out of UAW lot

UAW: Marines (and the First Amendment) Not Welcome Here

Marines snub UAW olive branch

Ron G pretty much ruined his career, a large portion of the backlash came from his own UAW workers.

 

[Engineer]

Originally posted by: Train
It doesnt help that the UAW recently gave themselves a huge public relations black eye in Detroit:

Marines driven out of UAW lot

UAW: Marines (and the First Amendment) Not Welcome Here

Marines snub UAW olive branch

Ron G pretty much ruined his career, a large portion of the backlash came from his own UAW workers.

UAW sucks ass also.

If American auto companies want to compete (and prosper) against/with the Japanese, simple answer: Remove the UAW.

 

[MadRat]

global workers union = communism

*sarcasm* How nice. The Soviets won after all. *\sarcasm*

 

[BarneyFife]

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
5 AFL-CIO unions form dissident group

I actually agree with some of the statements being made by the groups threatening to leave.

"Our world has changed. The world that all workers live in has changed, but quite frankly the labor movement has not changed to meet the changes," said Joe Hansen, president of the United Food and Commercial Workers union.

I agree. Plus there is the whole politics issue of things.

the dissidents reply that unions' much beefed-up political efforts in recent years have neither helped them nor put their candidates into office.

Might be time for labor to get back to working for the workers instead of playing politics...no?

CsG

You clearly have your head buried in the sand. Each day I come here instead of posting real news, you post things about unions, cbs, the united nations, or some media outlet having a liberal bias. Ever heard of Iraq or the economy? You should walk into a military hospital right now to grab a sense of reality with young men and women laying beds brain damaged, without eyes, and missing arms and legs. Instead you spend your day just like the rest of the corporate media filling this board with worthless hot air. You can't hide from the truth forever.

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: BarneyFife

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
5 AFL-CIO unions form dissident group

I actually agree with some of the statements being made by the groups threatening to leave.

"Our world has changed. The world that all workers live in has changed, but quite frankly the labor movement has not changed to meet the changes," said Joe Hansen, president of the United Food and Commercial Workers union.

I agree. Plus there is the whole politics issue of things.

the dissidents reply that unions' much beefed-up political efforts in recent years have neither helped them nor put their candidates into office.

Might be time for labor to get back to working for the workers instead of playing politics...no?

CsG

You clearly have your head buried in the sand. Each day I come here instead of posting real news, you post things about unions, cbs, the united nations, or some media outlet having a liberal bias. Ever heard of Iraq or the economy? You should walk into a military hospital right now to grab a sense of reality with young men and women laying beds brain damaged, without eyes, and missing arms and legs. Instead you spend your day just like the rest of the corporate media filling this board with worthless hot air. You can't hide from the truth forever.

:roll:
Wow, such an emotional turd you plopped down in here... Here's something to refill your bowels -

CsG

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: MadRat
global workers union = communism

*sarcasm* How nice. The Soviets won after all. *\sarcasm*

You might have been too quick with your sarcasm tags

CsG

 

[tcsenter]

I'm reviving this thread based on recent developments:

Teamsters, SEIU Decide to Bolt AFL-CIO

Jolting organized labor, the Teamsters and a massive service employees' union decided Sunday to bolt the AFL-CIO, paving way for two other labor groups to sever ties in the movement's biggest schism since the 1930s.

The days of big organized labor are numbered, finally.

Unions bankrupted the steel industry, ship building industry, and nearly bankrupted the auto industry (averted only because the Big Three promised exorbitant wage and benefit plans it ultimately couldn't afford in exchange for the union allowing it to bring productivity and manufacturing out of the 1920s).

We will remember all the good things unions did, nor forget all the bad. Good riddance.

Unfortunately, public employee unions will remain entrenched for many decades to come, since government can run deeply in the red year after year, paying wages and benefits vastly higher than similar work in the private sector. Tax payers pick up the tab with no expectation of a return.

 

[Whoozyerdaddy]

Originally posted by: 1EZduzit

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
5 AFL-CIO unions form dissident group

I actually agree with some of the statements being made by the groups threatening to leave.

"Our world has changed. The world that all workers live in has changed, but quite frankly the labor movement has not changed to meet the changes," said Joe Hansen, president of the United Food and Commercial Workers union.

I agree. Plus there is the whole politics issue of things.

the dissidents reply that unions' much beefed-up political efforts in recent years have neither helped them nor put their candidates into office.

Might be time for labor to get back to working for the workers instead of playing politics...no?

CsG

Hardly. It's time for the unions to go global. If it works for businesses, it'll work for unions also.

Interesting thought. Manufacturing jobs are moved from the US to other countries because of cheap labor and tax friendly governments. Unions go global and expand into this virgin territory. They unionize everything so beloved patriot and his buddies can demand $20/hr. The governments go along with it and institute an income tax to collect extra revenues. Jobs migrate back to the US.

 

[Willoughbyva]

Unions have been a good thing for this country in the past. They need to make themselves relivent again. I think that most of the workers that pay the dues of the guys up top are fed up with the way things are going.

 

[Red Dawn]

More Unions should be like the Building Trade Unions that invest in the trade, give loans to building developers and are willing to concede when it is necessary.They ubnderstand that Contractors and Developers need to be profitable to keep their members working.

 

[gsaldivar]

BREAKING NEWS
Teamsters vote unanimously to withdraw from AFL-CIO, Teamsters President James Hoffa says. Details soon.

http://www.cnn.com/
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8682415/

 

[cKGunslinger]

Originally posted by: gsaldivar
BREAKING NEWS
Teamsters vote unanimously to withdraw from AFL-CIO, Teamsters President James Hoffa says. Details soon.

http://www.cnn.com/
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8682415/

Lovely quote by John Sweeny, president of the AFL-CIO:

?The labor movement belongs to all of us ... and our future should not be dictated by the demands of any group or the ambitions of any individual.?

Heh..

 

[Tommunist]

Originally posted by: cKGunslinger

Originally posted by: gsaldivar
BREAKING NEWS
Teamsters vote unanimously to withdraw from AFL-CIO, Teamsters President James Hoffa says. Details soon.

http://www.cnn.com/
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8682415/

Lovely quote by John Sweeny, president of the AFL-CIO:

?The labor movement belongs to all of us ... and our future should not be dictated by the demands of any group or the ambitions of any individual.?

Heh..

intersting quote indeed - on a related note: where did Cad go?

 

[cKGunslinger]

Originally posted by: Tommunist

Originally posted by: cKGunslinger

Originally posted by: gsaldivar
BREAKING NEWS
Teamsters vote unanimously to withdraw from AFL-CIO, Teamsters President James Hoffa says. Details soon.

http://www.cnn.com/
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8682415/

Lovely quote by John Sweeny, president of the AFL-CIO:

?The labor movement belongs to all of us ... and our future should not be dictated by the demands of any group or the ambitions of any individual.?

Heh..

intersting quote indeed - on a related note: where did Cad go?

Perma-banned, I hear. But I've yet to see where/when this occurred. *shrug*

 

[Tommunist]

Originally posted by: cKGunslinger

Originally posted by: Tommunist

Originally posted by: cKGunslinger

Originally posted by: gsaldivar
BREAKING NEWS
Teamsters vote unanimously to withdraw from AFL-CIO, Teamsters President James Hoffa says. Details soon.

http://www.cnn.com/
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8682415/

Lovely quote by John Sweeny, president of the AFL-CIO:

?The labor movement belongs to all of us ... and our future should not be dictated by the demands of any group or the ambitions of any individual.?

Heh..

intersting quote indeed - on a related note: where did Cad go?

Perma-banned, I hear. But I've yet to see where/when this occurred. *shrug*

I tried to find it - I was hoping it would at least be some sort of blaze of glory but I found no such thing...

 

[PELarson]

Those poor Republicans/neo-Conservatives what will they do without the boogieman of the AFL-CIO!

 

[MisterCornell]

Originally posted by: PELarson
Those poor Republicans/neo-Conservatives what will they do without the boogieman of the AFL-CIO!

Nice spin. The bigger question is what the Democrats will do without the money and organizing power of one of the largest unions and Democratic party support bases in the country.