Medieval 2 Total War Kingdoms

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Bateluer

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Can anyone confirm whether or not there will be a Steam version? I bought Medieval 2 on Steam and would like to purchase the expansion on there as well.

Edit - NM, there is a thread on the TW forums that confirms it. :)
 

jandrews

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Originally posted by: MarcVenice
@ semisonic, sorry I totally missed your post. I'll snap a picture right now for ya.

@ jandrew,

SEGA unveiled that Medieval II: Total War Kingdoms, the expansion to Medieval II: Total War developed by Creative Assembly, is set for release in the United States on August 28th and August 31st throughout Europe.

Looks like both of us were right :p

^^
 

MarcVenice

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My damn copy is shipping today though, and will be arriving 2morrow. Punks, should have had it today, I mean, it's out in the US, so why can't I have it :( Good thing my license on the preview version hasn't expired yet.
 

Bateluer

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Its up on Steam now, along with Rome TW Gold and Alexander. Now, they just need Medieval 1 and Shogun.

Edit - God, this thing takes forever to download. Servers must be busy with people DLing the latest titles, or the expansion is really big.
 

Regs

Lifer
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Installed it last night. I did not care for 3 different icons to be installed on my desktop for "one' game. Played a few turns as Jerusalem in the crusade campaign. To early to tell but at least I can say I hate how they made 3 "mods' with 3 different icons.
The launch speed of the applications are ridiculously slow. I don't know if it's just me or another downside of SafeDisc DRM.
 

Bateluer

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Originally posted by: Regs
Installed it last night. I did not care for 3 different icons to be installed on my desktop for "one' game. Played a few turns as Jerusalem in the crusade campaign. To early to tell but at least I can say I hate how they made 3 "mods' with 3 different icons.
The launch speed of the applications are ridiculously slow. I don't know if it's just me or another downside of SafeDisc DRM.

There's only 1 shortcut for Kingdoms on my desktop? What do you mean 3 icons? :confused:
 

Bateluer

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Originally posted by: melijak
I have 4 icons, one for each compain.

How'd you get that? I just have the one link to Kingdoms, which brings up the launcher that allows campaign selection.
 

jandrews

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I have 4 icons as well it comes at the end of each install asking for a desktop shortcut. Anyyywayyy, I started with the crusades campaign, I wanted to play as the crusaders of jerusalem but after I got into it a bit it just felt too easy even on very hard very hard. Also, I hate fighting horse archers they are extremely annoying. They are killable and I usually save them for after I defeat the armies main force. I just hate hate hate chasing them all over the map for an additional 10 minutes and it just drags on.

So I switched it to the brittania campaign and I am enjoying this one a bit more. Playing on very hard/very hard again and it seems there are random events like invasions etc that spice up the difficulty a bit. I started mainland scottish and after taking one rebel settlement I headed right for the denmarkians and took an island city. I then moved onto land and attacked the irish while forming an alliance with england to hopefully protect myself from fighting a war on three fronts which can be difficult. Pikemen can often make a seemingly hopeless situation to have hope once again. I got attacked by an army of 1300 denmarkians against my 200 polearms, 100 axemen and 160 archers also they had a spy that opened the gates.

Immediately I ran my troups back to the town square (hint, anytime you are really outnumbered or scared you will lose, head for the town square. Your troops will always fight to the death here and it is easier to center your defenses. This is especially true early on when your walls have very little defense anyway). If you have castles line up your archers in the rear to activate the turrets on the castle towers. I lined up my pikemen in front and set them to defend mode. The enemy came pouring in and to my suprise the pikemen were taking them down nicely while the archers volleyed fire arrows onto their weaking morale. Eventually the enemy started to run and somehow I came out victorious.

Anyway, the game is pretty fun and I am hoping to be further challenged. For others that fine the game a little too easy always remember to play a no reload game. If you lose a city or a general or two, too bad, keep playing it keeps it fun.
 

MarcVenice

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Launch speeds were generally as fast as they used to be in Medieval II: Total War. And I agree with jandrews, chasing around horse archers sucks. Usually when I know I have to fight them, I take 2 light armored cavalry units, and 1 heavily armored, then I just chase them around till I corner them like a herd of sheep and have my heavy cav make mincemeat out of them.

You should play with the byzantine btw, in Crusade campaign, I doubt that will be easy since those regions are pretty scattered. I did notice it has a pretty good economy, if you build economic buildings from the get go, money really starts pooring in.
 

jandrews

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Originally posted by: MarcVenice
Launch speeds were generally as fast as they used to be in Medieval II: Total War. And I agree with jandrews, chasing around horse archers sucks. Usually when I know I have to fight them, I take 2 light armored cavalry units, and 1 heavily armored, then I just chase them around till I corner them like a herd of sheep and have my heavy cav make mincemeat out of them.

You should play with the byzantine btw, in Crusade campaign, I doubt that will be easy since those regions are pretty scattered. I did notice it has a pretty good economy, if you build economic buildings from the get go, money really starts pooring in.

byantium are my favorites in the original campaign since they present quite the challenge. I am only sad when I want the cool crusade units but there is no point in playing when they are so easy. Before I got the game I thought you just started with jerusalem and a few rebel towns close by and had to carve your piece of the world.
 

Bateluer

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I enjoyed the Byzantines in vanilla Medieval 2, but haven't played them in Kingdoms yet. Last time I played the Byzantines, I ended up losing a large chunk of my empire to the Mongol hoards. I had the bulk of my armies in the west to wage war on Catholic Europe and was completely unprepared for the Mongol invasion, garrisons of two units of low grade archers don't stand up to that kind of assault.
 

imported_Imp

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Originally posted by: MarcVenice
Launch speeds were generally as fast as they used to be in Medieval II: Total War. And I agree with jandrews, chasing around horse archers sucks. Usually when I know I have to fight them, I take 2 light armored cavalry units, and 1 heavily armored, then I just chase them around till I corner them like a herd of sheep and have my heavy cav make mincemeat out of them.

You should play with the byzantine btw, in Crusade campaign, I doubt that will be easy since those regions are pretty scattered. I did notice it has a pretty good economy, if you build economic buildings from the get go, money really starts pooring in.

Grr... horse archers do suck. They usually don't do all that much damage anyways, but they tie up an entire unit of cavalry per group to chase down. And after you've chased them to hell or the edge of the map, they come right back! Then you do it all over again.

Maybe I'll pick this up today...
 

Dethfrumbelo

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That's a bit disappointing to hear that the game is still easy on VH/VH. There are some mods out there which improve AI on the strategy map a bit, mostly with diplomacy, and increase move rates and other stats, and those helped a little. The battle map AI is hardcoded though.
 

jandrews

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Originally posted by: Dethfrumbelo
That's a bit disappointing to hear that the game is still easy on VH/VH. There are some mods out there which improve AI on the strategy map a bit, mostly with diplomacy, and increase move rates and other stats, and those helped a little. The battle map AI is hardcoded though.

Maybe I spoke too soon, the crusades were easy on vh vh but I was suprised to be met with some challange so far in the brittania campaign as the scots on vh vh. I am quite a few turns in and while it may start off very easy it doesnt always end that way.
 

ayabe

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Played for a few hours lastnight and I like it. Been playing Antioch on Crusader campaign. I'm pretty good player and I wouldn't say the game is too easy. The Mongols are still gonna pwn unless you can meet them with 6 fully decked out armies right at the start.
 

Regs

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I think the bioshock drivers released from Nvidia killed my game. The game crashes everytime in a siege battle.

I thought something from the original M2 TW was causing the crash so I reinstalled everything and even deleted the registry keys.

Now when I play I get graphical errors. I played once where it was ok, but after the next launch I ger artifacts. Does not make any sense. Especially when every other game is fine and my GPU temps are well with-in tolerance range.

Ugh... I feel a reformat coming soon of my hard drive. Im so aggrevated at my pc right now. Seems like everytime i try to add something more to the mobo it causes problems.
 

Stoneburner

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I'm also having crash problems with siege battles and other battles on certain tiles. this is pissing me off to hell... I have no idea what's wrong either.
 

Stoneburner

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BTW, this is the greatest gaming series of all time. I remember I got assaulted in one of my austrian cities in Medieval 2, and all i had were some crappy town guard type troops and cannon. I kept losing the walls so i restarted, pulled everything to the center, set up a cannon to each entrance and stuffed it with some of my crappy troops. Closest battle imaginable, i just barely pulled it out.
 

TehMac

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If you guys modded the game, in anyway, and then installed Kingdoms, it'd be a good idea to uninstall Kingdoms and Med2, and yeah, reinstall. :(
 

Stoneburner

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god this game is fukked up. It wont install update 3 for some reason, keeps saying can't open c:\windows\packs\ and some file. I tried copying the right file to that directory and it still failed. I keep crashing during 1/2 of the battles


How the hell did this release this crap in such a poor state? I never modded my game at all. I"m going to try the reinstall anyway though but if it doesn't work i am going to give these people a call tuesday. Medieval 2 the original NEVER crashed on me, never played such a stable game.
 

imported_Imp

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Was going to pick this up tomorrow or early in the coming week. Thanks to all for probing, you saved me some trouble. I've also never modded Medieval 2, so that's pretty lame for there to be problems.
 

TehMac

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Originally posted by: Stoneburner
god this game is fukked up. It wont install update 3 for some reason, keeps saying can't open c:\windows\packs\ and some file. I tried copying the right file to that directory and it still failed. I keep crashing during 1/2 of the battles


How the hell did this release this crap in such a poor state? I never modded my game at all. I"m going to try the reinstall anyway though but if it doesn't work i am going to give these people a call tuesday. Medieval 2 the original NEVER crashed on me, never played such a stable game.

I seriously recommend uninstalling Medieval 2 and reinstalling, and then installing Kingdoms. 1.3 comes with Kingdoms. As in, you probably fuck'd up your files (maybe not you, but did you "unlock" as in tampering with the files to prematurely unlock factions?) and Kingdoms is confused.

This is a pretty common issue.
 

melijak

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I got it installed with no issues whatsoever, the update took about 20 minutes though.