• We’re currently investigating an issue related to the forum theme and styling that is impacting page layout and visual formatting. The problem has been identified, and we are actively working on a resolution. There is no impact to user data or functionality, this is strictly a front-end display issue. We’ll post an update once the fix has been deployed. Thanks for your patience while we get this sorted.

Media headline spin?? to get more clicks or just adding fuel to the fire???

spacejamz

Lifer
1619061930202.png

This was the headline on abcnews.com today...

When the cops arrived on the scene, this 16 year old girl had a knife and was about to stab some other other girls. They had no idea what the back story was. And it really doesn't matter when someone's life is in imminent danger.

ABC news chose to run with a headline that pretty much put the cop in a bad light instead of mentioning he prevented the 16 year old from stabbing someone. I guess saying "16 year shot to death while trying to stab someone" doesn't get as many clicks as "Cop shoots 16 year old".... And we wonder why this country is so divided..
 
If news story titles contribute to what divides us then we have bigger problems. Btw, did you read the article?
 
Last edited:
View attachment 43441

This was the headline on abcnews.com today...

When the cops arrived on the scene, this 16 year old girl had a knife and was about to stab some other other girls. They had no idea what the back story was. And it really doesn't matter when someone's life is in imminent danger.

ABC news chose to run with a headline that pretty much put the cop in a bad light instead of mentioning he prevented the 16 year old from stabbing someone. I guess saying "16 year shot to death while trying to stab someone" doesn't get as many clicks as "Cop shoots 16 year old".... And we wonder why this country is so divided..

Shhh. You're not supposed to talk about the obvious media sensationalism. Just drop your jaw to the floor and be outraged. Maybe yell at your TV or monitor for good measure.
Lebron tweeted about this. Then he read the facts. Then he deleted his tweet.
Rage on.
 
I believe a headline is supposed to tell you what the rest of the story is about From this one I take it a 16 year old girl was shot by police. Now as I see it you can read that as a description of what happened or, if you are some kind of a nut case with unique psychological triggers, read it as your big chance to display your psychosis. People who hate themselves have huge sore toes they can't refrain from sticking out where somebody will surely step on them. It's just a habit of people can't help having who are nuts. A constant state of emotional agitation and outrage keep them from feeling what they really feel, completely worthless.

Here the real stupidity is that we don't want to feel something we believe is true but is actually a lie. The only resemblance we have to being worthless is that believing we are makes us act like it.
 
Headline seems fairly concise and factual. IDK what bias you are seeing our how you think it should be improved.

Is stating age and gender of suspects automatically sensational?

Can we not state means of death or by whom?

"Human dead" too vague to be informative.
 
Edit: removed unintentional comment
View attachment 43441

This was the headline on abcnews.com today...

When the cops arrived on the scene, this 16 year old girl had a knife and was about to stab some other other girls. They had no idea what the back story was. And it really doesn't matter when someone's life is in imminent danger.

ABC news chose to run with a headline that pretty much put the cop in a bad light instead of mentioning he prevented the 16 year old from stabbing someone. I guess saying "16 year shot to death while trying to stab someone" doesn't get as many clicks as "Cop shoots 16 year old".... And we wonder why this country is so divided..

There is nothing abnormal about this headline. It's as simple and factual as it gets. Go the library and read through historical newspapers and you will find nearly identical headlines.
Any extra meaning has been added specifically by you. Controversy has been added by you.
 
Last edited:
  • Like
Reactions: pmv
Why does a big, burly cop guy even need to blow away a 16 year old girl just because she has a knife? I'm sure there are other way he could have stopped her? I've lived in countries where cops don't carry guns, they encounter people with knives all the time, and cops aren't murdered en masse. They have leather jackets, kevlar gloves, know how to tackle people.. Don't come with the bs that "it's too dangerous!", buhu, grow some balls and do the job you're paid to do
 
I felt it was a click bait headline trying to cash in. Unfortunately, with the exception of the


There is nothing abnormal about this headline. It's as simple and factual as it gets. Go the library and read through historical newspapers and you will find nearly identical headlines.
Any extra meaning has been added specifically by you. Controversy has been added by you.

I don't think just not lying is the standard we should be shooting for.

I think the problem is that people form impressions based on headlines. They often do not even read, or will skim, the article contents. In context of the reporting over the past several years about police shootings, the impression many will form from that headline is that it was another unjustified shoot. That is how it's going to be perceived when you use "16 year old girl" and "shot by police." Because in the general assumption, there doesn't seem to be many valid reasons to shoot a 16 year old girl.

And there have been protests over this very case, as recently as last night.

This headline could just as easily have been "cop saves girl's life by shooting assailant attempting to stab her." Would be just as factually accurate and would not stoke outrage.
 
Headline seems fairly concise and factual. IDK what bias you are seeing our how you think it should be improved.

Is stating age and gender of suspects automatically sensational?

Can we not state means of death or by whom?

"Human dead" too vague to be informative.
It didn't call her a thug so it's biased.
 
Why does a big, burly cop guy even need to blow away a 16 year old girl just because she has a knife? I'm sure there are other way he could have stopped her? I've lived in countries where cops don't carry guns, they encounter people with knives all the time, and cops aren't murdered en masse. They have leather jackets, kevlar gloves, know how to tackle people.. Don't come with the bs that "it's too dangerous!", buhu, grow some balls and do the job you're paid to do

Because she was about to stab another teenage girl. God I'm seeing so many bad takes from the left on this. We had a HUGE win with Chauvin going down, please don't blow that momentum on something like this.
 
Headline: Dumb Fucking People Don't Actually Read News and Assume The Headline Has All the Details.

Yep. Welcome to the world. HEADLINES ARE DESIGNED TO GET YOUR ATTENTION!!!!! Probably evwe since news was delivered on chiseled fucking rocks.

OMG!!! Are the chevron on news shows just sensational summaries too?!?! We best checknout CNN and Fox News. Lord knows we can't be bothered with anything more than 10 goddamned words.

Fuxking morons.
 
Because she was about to stab another teenage girl. God I'm seeing so many bad takes from the left on this. We had a HUGE win with Chauvin going down, please don't blow that momentum on something like this.

Seems like an accurate headline. The details you refer to were in the story, no? Nothing was covered-up or misrepresented.

I wouldn't assume from the headline that the cop had just shot her for no reason at all. Why would anyone jump to that assumption? You'd read the damn article. Which would, nevertheless, still leave the fact that yet again in the US a situation has arisen where a someone has ended up shot dead by a cop.

The headline conveys its own truth. You don't get many headlines like that in other developed countries because the situation rarely happens, knife or not.
 
well you sure as f$%k cannot trust whatever the police tell you

iu
 
well you sure as f$%k cannot trust whatever the police tell you

iu

They kinda forgot to mention the police officer kneeling on the suspect's neck for 9-1/2 minutes. That's entirely different than the Columbus incident. New headline- "Cop thwarts attempted murder by killing the perpetrator in the act." It's right there on video-

 
Wow. So many dumbasses being dumb or playing dumb -- the headline is factual hur-dur. Yes, technically those of you that say that are correct. If someone on the Right said the same thing, many of you would call them out. The headline is lying by omission. Others have pointed it out in this same thread. You all know damn well the headline is meant to spark outrage at cops.
 
Wow. So many dumbasses being dumb or playing dumb -- the headline is factual hur-dur. Yes, technically those of you that say that are correct. If someone on the Right said the same thing, many of you would call them out. The headline is lying by omission. Others have pointed it out in this same thread. You all know damn well the headline is meant to spark outrage at cops.

I guess my outrage button isn’t working as the headline didn’t outrage me.

Perhaps it’s you and the OP that are the problem.
 
The headline is factual, and the message is horrible. I'm not armchair quarterbacking anything, it is sad news indeed when a cop shoots a 16 year old girl. Forget the circumstances. You can try and sugar coat it all up however you want, it is still horrible news. That it will trigger outrage is natural and inevitable.
I'm guessing the OP's only alternative was no story at all.
 
The headline is denotatively descriptive of went on.

Connotatively, it is clearly designed to inflame primed minds. Those who "trust" ABCNews hold particular premises within their minds. Premises with considerable emotional value.

Some people are playing dumb in this thread. Not like the George Floyd trial, a matter regarding objectively obvious police abuse, just wrapped up in the same day that this shooting occurred.

When taken in the context of the current news climate, the title is there to trigger the emotional response that this incident is yet another Floyd incident. Systemic racism. White boy cop racist attacking an unarmed black woman. These presumptions are held in the minds of many.

It is a crafty tactic of PR. Put something that is technically unoffensive in isolation, and let the audience infer for themselves...and incorrectly so.

My opinion? Both sides have damning aspects, with the black female teenager being the greater of the transgressors. Shot number 4 by the cop, to me, crosses the line because the grounds for self-defense(in this case defense of another) ended after bullet two or three when the knife assailant began falling. The cop was able to process split seconds to the very last point before a fatal thrust was initiated, thus he still should be able to see when resistance ended in a similar split-second. If that last bullet or even the third one was the killing blow, he needs to be held accountable.

This is a scenario is where the conservative talking heads are closer to the truth, but not quite there because they fully vindicate the cop when he shouldn't be.
 
The headline is denotatively descriptive of went on.

Connotatively, it is clearly designed to inflame primed minds. Those who "trust" ABCNews hold particular premises within their minds. Premises with considerable emotional value.

Some people are playing dumb in this thread. Not like the George Floyd trial, a matter regarding objectively obvious police abuse, just wrapped up in the same day that this shooting occurred.

When taken in the context of the current news climate, the title is there to trigger the emotional response that this incident is yet another Floyd incident. Systemic racism. White boy cop racist attacking an unarmed black woman. These presumptions are held in the minds of many.

It is a crafty tactic of PR. Put something that is technically unoffensive in isolation, and let the audience infer for themselves...and incorrectly so.

My opinion? Both sides have damning aspects, with the black female teenager being the greater of the transgressors. Shot number 4 by the cop, to me, crosses the line because the grounds for self-defense(in this case defense of another) ended after bullet two or three when the knife assailant began falling. The cop was able to process split seconds to the very last point before a fatal thrust was initiated, thus he still should be able to see when resistance ended in a similar split-second. If that last bullet or even the third one was the killing blow, he needs to be held accountable.

This is a scenario is where the conservative talking heads are closer to the truth, but not quite there because they fully vindicate the cop when he shouldn't be.

Yeah but it didn’t work on you right? You were the only smart one here that wasn’t emotionally triggered by the title right? Only you were capable of correctly inferring what the situation was right?

Basically everyone but you is an idiot.


Sounds like projecting to me.
 
I guess my outrage button isn’t working as the headline didn’t outrage me.

Perhaps it’s you and the OP that are the problem.

I'm guessing the concern expressed in this thread is what happens when you stick with foxnews\editorial style outlets.
You lose the ability to process a simple, straight forward headline and news story.

You have to be broken as a person to try and dig up some sort of conspiracy on that headline.
 
Wow. So many dumbasses being dumb or playing dumb -- the headline is factual hur-dur. Yes, technically those of you that say that are correct. If someone on the Right said the same thing, many of you would call them out. The headline is lying by omission. Others have pointed it out in this same thread. You all know damn well the headline is meant to spark outrage at cops.
You dumb bro?

16 year old girl? yes or no

fatally shot? yes or no

by police? yes or no

in ohio? yes or no

Get a fucking grip.
 
Back
Top