Media headline spin?? to get more clicks or just adding fuel to the fire???

[JEDIYoda]

Wow. So many dumbasses being dumb or playing dumb -- the headline is factual hur-dur. Yes, technically those of you that say that are correct. If someone on the Right said the same thing, many of you would call them out. The headline is lying by omission. Others have pointed it out in this same thread. You all know damn well the headline is meant to spark outrage at cops.

ok, lets say your right....who in the fuck cares??? Cops are nothing special.......most5 don`t even know the oath they swore to uphold!
Most are as crooked as the people the arrest.........need I go on???

 

[Jhhnn]

ok, lets say your right....who in the fuck cares??? Cops are nothing special.......most5 don`t even know the oath they swore to uphold!
Most are as crooked as the people the arrest.........need I go on???

Your claim that most cops are crooked is as dishonest as the OP.

 

[brandonbull]

Headline seems fairly concise and factual. IDK what bias you are seeing our how you think it should be improved.

Is stating age and gender of suspects automatically sensational?

Can we not state means of death or by whom?

"Human dead" too vague to be informative.

What about: "Attempted stabbing stopped by police"? That is also concise and factual but sounds totally different.

 

[brandonbull]

Why does a big, burly cop guy even need to blow away a 16 year old girl just because she has a knife? I'm sure there are other way he could have stopped her? I've lived in countries where cops don't carry guns, they encounter people with knives all the time, and cops aren't murdered en masse. They have leather jackets, kevlar gloves, know how to tackle people.. Don't come with the bs that "it's too dangerous!", buhu, grow some balls and do the job you're paid to do

Somebody has watched 1 too many 1980's cop shows. Maybe Joe Biden can teach them to shoot the perp in the arm or leg. I've watched tons of tv and getting shot in the shoulder is nonfatal.

 

[s0me0nesmind1]

Yeah I mean it's not like our media misconstrues shit and end up looking incredibly retarded in the process lol....

 

[ivwshane]

What about: "Attempted stabbing stopped by police"? That is also concise and factual but sounds totally different.

Was it a stabbing or was it self defense?

 

[sportage]

Maybe its time for a little public service reminder.
And note, this was from 2007. 😳

 

[brandonbull]

Was it a stabbing or was it self defense?

Since the person with the knife didn't call 911, may not be self defense. The police didn't just randomly show up. More than 1 call was placed to 911 trying to get the police to help stop a person with a knife attacking people.

 

[brandonbull]

Yeah I mean it's not like our media misconstrues shit and end up looking incredibly retarded in the process lol....

Or NBC editing the 911 call to leave out the part about someone pleading for the police because a person with a knife was attacking people? Nothing new with NBC editing 911 calls to force a narrative.

 

[Bitek]

What about: "Attempted stabbing stopped by police"? That is also concise and factual but sounds totally different.

Different and factual, yes, sure.

However, it does sort of minimize the fact that's it's a shooting and it was a high school student. Bit relevant I think. Does that omission create some bias? Maybe. Certainly not as informative.

Stopped who? By how?
Joker's henchmen by a thrown batarang?
A mental hospital escapee talked down by a smooth talking negotiator?
A terrorist disarmed by an offduty detective and former special forces vet?
Maybe it just an armed robber and cop accidently hit him pulling out of the donut shop.

You leave a pretty empty canvas.

Not gonna write a letter to the editor and whine on internet about it tho.
You're supposed to read the fing article. Maybe not yours.....headline is vague and routine.

 

[pmv]

Wow. So many dumbasses being dumb or playing dumb -- the headline is factual hur-dur. Yes, technically those of you that say that are correct. If someone on the Right said the same thing, many of you would call them out. The headline is lying by omission. Others have pointed it out in this same thread. You all know damn well the headline is meant to spark outrage at cops.

Well there are at least two dumbasses being dumb or playing dumb - you and the OP.

If the headline were "psychopath cop shoots girl for no valid reason", then you'd have a legitimate point. But it isn't, it makes no such assertion about the causes of the event it describes, it's just a factual description of the kind of event that happens regularly in the US, and pretty-much only in the US. (It says or implies nothing about what the reasons for that situation might be - that's up to the reader to decide).

 

[JEDIYoda]

Your claim that most cops are crooked is as dishonest as the OP.

McCaffrey: It's easier to make an Army Ranger than a good cop (msn.com)

It is a sad state of affairs when you cannot tell your children to trust cops.....

 

[pmv]

What about: "Attempted stabbing stopped by police"? That is also concise and factual but sounds totally different.

That would be a biased way to describe what happened, because it avoids mentioning the most consequential aspect of the event - that somebody ended up shot dead, and a teenage girl at that.

If that had been the headline what it would say to me is 'people being shot dead by police in the US is so commonnplace and routine now that it doesn't even merit a mention in the headline'.

 

[Lost_in_the_HTTP]

The headline is denotatively descriptive of went on.

Could you try that again ... in English?



Headline is accurate, but so is 'Knife Wielding Assailant Shot By Police' or 'Police Save Potential Victims From Knife Assault'.

 

[Lost_in_the_HTTP]

Different and factual, yes, sure.

However, it does sort of minimize the fact that's it's a shooting and it was a high school student.


You leave a pretty empty canvas.

You're supposed to read the *** article.

That would be a biased way to describe what happened, because it avoids mentioning the most consequential aspect of the event - that somebody ended up shot dead, and a teenage girl at that.

The details are in the story. They don't need to be in the headlines. And they don't favor the girl.

 

[pmv]

Headline is accurate, but so is 'Knife Wielding Assailant Shot By Police' or 'Police Save Potential Victims From Knife Assault'.

The first of those would be justifiable (at least if you added the word 'dead' after 'shot') if a little wordy, but the second, as I say, weirdly elides the fact that someone ended up shot dead.

I get that Americans are so blase about people being shot to death that they perhaps don't even consider it newsworthy, but that state-of-affairs doesn't say anything good about the US.

 

[pmv]

The details are in the story. They don't need to be in the headlines. And they don't favor the girl.

They do need to be in the headlines, becuase they are the most important aspect of the outcome of the event. I can only assume it's because you are an American that you don't consider a teenage girl being shot dead to be notable enough to be mentioned in a headline.

 

[Lost_in_the_HTTP]

The headlines are the headlines. The story is the story. They story doesn't need to be in the headlines. Sensationalism is what's killing the media. Facts can turn that around.

 

[pmv]

The headlines are the headlines. The story is the story. They story doesn't need to be in the headlines. Sensationalism is what's killing the media. Facts can turn that around.

No idea what you are trying to say, to be honest.

 

[obidamnkenobi]

Somebody has watched 1 too many 1980's cop shows. Maybe Joe Biden can teach them to shoot the perp in the arm or leg. I've watched tons of tv and getting shot in the shoulder is nonfatal.

Or just lived anywhere else in the civilized world where cops murdering people is a rare event? Not a multiple times a day occurrence? And there neither people or cops are harmed at any higher rate.. How do they do it?? Magical!!

 

[Bitek]

The details are in the story. They don't need to be in the headlines. And they don't favor the girl.

You don't have any particular human interest in how a minor found herself getting shot by police? Is this somehow common where you live?

This strong reaction to a mere mention in a headline seems irrationally hypersensitive to me.

 

[pmv]

Or just lived anywhere else in the civilized world where cops murdering people is a rare event? Not a multiple times a day occurrence? And there neither people or cops are harmed at any higher rate.. How do they do it?? Magical!!

I'd quibble with the use of the word 'murdering' in the context - that raises a whole other set of issues. You could, though, replace it with 'killing' and the sentiment would still be valid.

 

[obidamnkenobi]

I'd quibble with the use of the word 'murdering' in the context - that raises a whole other set of issues. You could, though, replace it with 'killing' and the sentiment would still be valid.

Nope, it's intentional. Cops intend to kill = murder. It may be justified, but I still call cops killing citizens a murder

 

[cytg111]

From the article

""We know, based on this footage, the officer took action to protect another young girl in our community. But a family is grieving tonight," he said. "

Seems to me that all the right wingers here is rolling nothing but tan suits ... then continue to choke when they try'n smoke em.

Also, if nbc's aim was to inflame the headline would have been black-girl.

 

[cytg111]

The headline is denotatively descriptive of went on.

Connotatively, it is clearly designed to inflame primed minds. Those who "trust" ABCNews hold particular premises within their minds. Premises with considerable emotional value.

Some people are playing dumb in this thread. Not like the George Floyd trial, a matter regarding objectively obvious police abuse, just wrapped up in the same day that this shooting occurred.

When taken in the context of the current news climate, the title is there to trigger the emotional response that this incident is yet another Floyd incident. Systemic racism. White boy cop racist attacking an unarmed black woman. These presumptions are held in the minds of many.

It is a crafty tactic of PR. Put something that is technically unoffensive in isolation, and let the audience infer for themselves...and incorrectly so.

My opinion? Both sides have damning aspects, with the black female teenager being the greater of the transgressors. Shot number 4 by the cop, to me, crosses the line because the grounds for self-defense(in this case defense of another) ended after bullet two or three when the knife assailant began falling. The cop was able to process split seconds to the very last point before a fatal thrust was initiated, thus he still should be able to see when resistance ended in a similar split-second. If that last bullet or even the third one was the killing blow, he needs to be held accountable.

This is a scenario is where the conservative talking heads are closer to the truth, but not quite there because they fully vindicate the cop when he shouldn't be.

Are you talking about Fox news? Cause you have GOT to be talking about Fox.
NBC leans left
Fox occupies the alternative right.
In regards to the multiple shots, I wouldnt want to comment on that until I know more about their training. I can easily imagine they are trained for one or two follow up shots for "stopping power"... but I dont know.