Hmmm. Initially you seemed to say that liberals are not what I think they are. You are right in the sense that there can’t be an exact definition and everyone is different. But I’ve been around long enough and I think I understand liberalism well enough...
You then painted a caricature of me, which is so off the mark that it wasn’t even funny. I can assure you I’m none of those various “yous”. I do not wish to go into my religious beliefs or lack thereof
Everyone is different, obviously. But yes there can be a certain amount of an "exacting definition" applied to liberals.
Can you be a Christian if you don't believe in Christ? By definition, no. All Christians are different, true. For instance, all Christians that support Trump and hate the gays and colored people aren't Christians. They think they are, but they are not. You most definitely fit in this category and undoubtedly believe you are a Christian despite not understanding Christ's message.
The same goes for being liberal. There are a few absolutes you must agree to before you can call yourself a liberal. Like any philosophy or religion there is plenty of wiggle room and there are also absolute truths.
1) Open to new behavior or opinions and willing to discard traditional values.
This is one of them. There are plenty of gray areas in there but one thing that is black and white - everything is scrutinized, and nothing is taken at face value. How you scrutinize is opinion and open to interpretation. The act of scrutinizing though, based on the source of the information, is not. You cannot just assume the NYT is gospel without applying the scientific method, or your own internal logic, against everything anyone or any publication makes or prints. Thus, your friend isn't a liberal.
Here is an example:
https://forums.anandtech.com/thread...rous-nations-for-women.2549667/#post-39476471
This is an obvious liberal biased "study" and I didn't take it at face value, even if it was from "my side" because some of it didn't follow logic.
Meanwhile, this is you:
https://forums.anandtech.com/thread...ations-for-women.2549667/page-2#post-39477045
Nothing you say can ever be taken at face value on the internet because you are most assuredly lying. That is what you do, so even though you claim that "You then painted a caricature of me, which is so off the mark that it wasn’t even funny." It's going to hold up for a lot of people because it's logic applied to your posts. Perhaps you don't live in a red state, but you are absolutely a religious person that doesn't apply said's religious teachings to the modern age. Fact.
Just like some of the things you would probably say about me would be true, if you were smart enough to apply logic to my philosophy. But alas, you'll never be able to prove your case in the court of public opinion that is anantech. Because nobody will ever believe anything you say. Perhaps you will feel more at home on reddit where there are plenty of havens for your kind
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