Media bias.

[fskimospy]

The reason I voted was b/c something had to be done with the globalist, sjw, pc-police, socialist path we were headed down. One that shit on the little guy in the name of profits for public companies like Harley Davidson who have decided that paying americans while their execs make less is not an option. We needed a molotov cocktail thrown at the Beltway elites and Trump was and still is a viable option. Both parties alike despise him which should tell you something if you despise Congress like I do.

If you don’t like companies offshoring production then you probably shouldn’t have voted for the guy who gave these companies big incentives to offshore productions and then a huge sack of cash with which to finance it. Oops!

It’s both funny and sad how after Trump just spent a year completely screwing the little guy you’re still talking him up like he’s a defender of the average american. He doesn’t give a single, solitary shit about the little guy.

 

[Thebobo]

Yea more or less... msnbc i would nudge a few mms to the left maybe.. fox to the right

yea and It really depends on which "show" you watching like Tucker Wanity and Engram are all maxed to the right at 10. Wanity at 11. While Shep Smith I can watch without my blood pressure topping out, surprised he's still there but I'm glad he is.

Oh forgot Bret Baier he's pretty reasonable as well.

 

[Thebobo]

If you don’t like companies offshoring production then you probably shouldn’t have voted for the guy who gave these companies big incentives to offshore productions and then a huge sack of cash with which to finance it. Oops!

It’s both funny and sad how after Trump just spent a year completely screwing the little guy you’re still talking him up like he’s a defender of the average american. He doesn’t give a single, solitary shit about the little guy.

Wasn't it Trump who said, - I like people who are rich, not people who aren't

 

[obidamnkenobi]

He is. But the left has been angry for a long long time, long before the vile one. Even when it is in power, it is still angry. Yes there are many injustices in society, and there has never been a society in history without injustices. But the level of anger on the left seems to be indicative of something else. What exactly that is I am not very sure.

Even among the people I know personally, the more liberal minded seem to be more angry than the more traditional types..

Can you give me some "angry" quotes from Obama or Bill Clinton to illustrate this point? Something on the level of Trump's angry speeches?

If you do find some I'd argue that being "angry" at injustices, or wall street crashing the economy or whatever is not the same level as being mad as hell at Syrian refugees for wanting to not be killed..

 

[fskimospy]

He is. But the left has been angry for a long long time, long before the vile one. Even when it is in power, it is still angry. Yes there are many injustices in society, and there has never been a society in history without injustices. But the level of anger on the left seems to be indicative of something else. What exactly that is I am not very sure.

Even among the people I know personally, the more liberal minded seem to be more angry than the more traditional types..

If those on the left are so much angrier than those on the right can you explain why those on the right attempt to kill their fellow citizens over politics so much more often?

 

[Noah Abrams]

I am not talking about comparing specific quotes of the vile one - who being a malignant narcissist, is...what he is. Not talking about killings as such either - I guess people on the right more into guns are more likely to use them.

I guess I am trying to say that there is an anger on the left at a much deeper level. I think the anger really is about the meaninglessness of life itself, which people on the left feel mostly at an unconscious level

 

[fskimospy]

I am not talking about comparing specific quotes of the vile one - who being a malignant narcissist, is...what he is. Not talking about killings as such either - I guess people on the right more into guns are more likely to use them.

I guess I am trying to say that there is an anger on the left at a much deeper level. I think the anger really is about the meaninglessness of life itself, which people on the left feel mostly at an unconscious level

Wait, you're saying that people on the left want to kill people on the right but can't find the guns to do it with? Seriously? I think the fact that political violence is far more common from the right than from the left shoots a pretty big hole in your theory that liberals are angrier than conservatives. Until you can find a credible reason why the most likely conclusion is that the opposite is true.

My personal experiences jibe with the idea that conservatives are far angrier as well. The conservatives I've known, especially those in my extended family, have always been incredibly angry when it comes to political issues. I think the most likely answer for this is that as empirical research shows conservatives are far more into politics as an identity while liberals look at politics from a more transactional perspective. Empirical research also shows that conservatives are far more attuned to potential threats than liberals are, which probably factors into the anger as well.

 

[Jhhnn]

I am not talking about comparing specific quotes of the vile one - who being a malignant narcissist, is...what he is. Not talking about killings as such either - I guess people on the right more into guns are more likely to use them.

I guess I am trying to say that there is an anger on the left at a much deeper level. I think the anger really is about the meaninglessness of life itself, which people on the left feel mostly at an unconscious level

Yeh, and Democrats are the real racists.

 

[Phenzyn]

A hell of an interview right here

https://www.msnbc.com/the-beat-with...hors-know-it-s-trump-propaganda-1262171715587

 

[Jhhnn]

A hell of an interview right here

https://www.msnbc.com/the-beat-with...hors-know-it-s-trump-propaganda-1262171715587

The first minute is absolutely horrifying. Major network pundits who sound like that are a national disgrace.

 

[Victorian Gray]

The first minute is absolutely horrifying. Major network pundits who sound like that are a national disgrace.

Damn I hated summer camp.

 

[SP33Demon]

If you don’t like companies offshoring production then you probably shouldn’t have voted for the guy who gave these companies big incentives to offshore productions and then a huge sack of cash with which to finance it. Oops!

It’s both funny and sad how after Trump just spent a year completely screwing the little guy you’re still talking him up like he’s a defender of the average american. He doesn’t give a single, solitary shit about the little guy.

Actually he gave incentive for companies to come here by lowering the corporate tax. Foxconn, Guinness are just a few who are opening facilities who have never before operated here.

Here's something that reminded me of your ilk:
Evolution of the tax bill meltdown:
"If this passes, you're going to die."
...
"Ok, you won't die but the billionaires are gonna take all your money."
...
"Fine, they're giving you bonuses, but it's only for PR."

Also just for you:

• Nearly 63 percent of [manufacturing] CEOs said business tax reform would encourage capital spending and more than half said they would expand their businesses

https://www.cnbc.com/2017/12/11/man...-high-optimism-on-prospect-of-tax-reform.html

So we have new companies building here for the first time and half of manufacturing CEOs saying they will expand their businesses. This is why you lost the election, even when reality hits you in the kisser you make shit up to keep up your disillusionment that Trump has screwed the little guy. Last I checked, you were a hillarybot who was pouting about losing. The losses will continue in 2020, let's bet shall we?

 

[fskimospy]

Actually he gave incentive for companies to come here by lowering the corporate tax. Foxconn, Guinness are just a few who are opening facilities who have never before operated here.

Here's something that reminded me of your ilk:
Evolution of the tax bill meltdown:
"If this passes, you're going to die."
...
"Ok, you won't die but the billionaires are gonna take all your money."
...
"Fine, they're giving you bonuses, but it's only for PR."

Also just for you:

• Nearly 63 percent of [manufacturing] CEOs said business tax reform would encourage capital spending and more than half said they would expand their businesses

https://www.cnbc.com/2017/12/11/man...-high-optimism-on-prospect-of-tax-reform.html

So we have new companies building here for the first time and half of manufacturing CEOs saying they will expand their businesses. This is why you lost the election, even when reality hits you in the kisser you make shit up to keep up your disillusionment that Trump has screwed the little guy. Last I checked, you were a hillarybot who was pouting about losing. The losses will continue in 2020, let's bet shall we?

lol. Dummy got duped again. Here's what they ACTUALLY did with the money:

https://www.nbcnews.com/business/ec...erica-do-tax-break-buy-record-amounts-n886621

"More than 70 percent of this [tax cut] will be returned to workers," said White House Press Secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders at a January press conference after the bill came into effect.

However, companies have instead used the extra cash to spend billions of dollars buying back their own stock, boosting the value of shares held by investors. Buybacks reduce the number of shares on the market, immediately increasing the value of the shares that investors already hold.

Over the past year, S&P 500 companies have given their shareholders a record $1 trillion in the form of buybacks and dividends, led by Apple, Cisco Systems, and other technology giants.

Owned again.

 

[Jhhnn]

Nearly 63 percent of [manufacturing] CEOs said business tax reform would encourage capital spending and more than half said they would expand their businesses

They'd have said anything at the time to get tax cuts.

 

[IJTSSG]

You

Wait, you're saying that people on the left want to kill people on the right but can't find the guns to do it with? Seriously? I think the fact that political violence is far more common from the right than from the left shoots a pretty big hole in your theory that liberals are angrier than conservatives. Until you can find a credible reason why the most likely conclusion is that the opposite is true.

My personal experiences jibe with the idea that conservatives are far angrier as well. The conservatives I've known, especially those in my extended family, have always been incredibly angry when it comes to political issues. I think the most likely answer for this is that as empirical research shows conservatives are far more into politics as an identity while liberals look at politics from a more transactional perspective. Empirical research also shows that conservatives are far more attuned to potential threats than liberals are, which probably factors into the anger as well.

You've got the list right? All the violence that's ever been attributed to "politics" in this country with clear evidence of what the motivation was?

 

[UNCjigga]

Also just for you:

• Nearly 63 percent of [manufacturing] CEOs said business tax reform would encourage capital spending and more than half said they would expand their businesses

https://www.cnbc.com/2017/12/11/man...-high-optimism-on-prospect-of-tax-reform.html

So we have new companies building here for the first time and half of manufacturing CEOs saying they will expand their businesses. This is why you lost the election, even when reality hits you in the kisser you make shit up to keep up your disillusionment that Trump has screwed the little guy. Last I checked, you were a hillarybot who was pouting about losing. The losses will continue in 2020, let's bet shall we?

LOL, why would a group like NAM lobbying for the tax cut bill say anything negative about its consequences? Speaking of reality, has anyone polled actual manufacturers AFTER Trump's trade war started? Here's a hint: don't expect a Koch-funded front like NAM to actually ask those questions, or provide any unbiased data. NAM is basically just another front for the Koch's to raise money for the GOP:
https://www.opensecrets.org/pacs/lookup2.php?cycle=2018&strID=C00541169
https://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php/National_Association_of_Manufacturers

As for what's really happening:

Businesses say they are 'bracing for the worst' from Trump's tariffs and the trade war could force them to leave the US
http://www.businessinsider.com/trum...-war-worries-business-in-kc-fed-survey-2018-6

LOL, China and India are thanking Trump voters for their jobs!

 

[fskimospy]

You

You've got the list right? All the violence that's ever been attributed to "politics" in this country with clear evidence of what the motivation was?

Sure, the GAO made a report and everything.

https://www.gao.gov/assets/690/683984.pdf

We have a problem in this country, the political right has a serious violence problem and conservatives aren't willing to confront it.

 

[SP33Demon]

LOL, why would a group like NAM lobbying for the tax cut bill say anything negative about its consequences? Speaking of reality, has anyone polled actual manufacturers AFTER Trump's trade war started? Here's a hint: don't expect a Koch-funded front like NAM to actually ask those questions, or provide any unbiased data. NAM is basically just another front for the Koch's to raise money for the GOP:
https://www.opensecrets.org/pacs/lookup2.php?cycle=2018&strID=C00541169
https://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php/National_Association_of_Manufacturers

As for what's really happening:

Businesses say they are 'bracing for the worst' from Trump's tariffs and the trade war could force them to leave the US
http://www.businessinsider.com/trum...-war-worries-business-in-kc-fed-survey-2018-6

LOL, China and India are thanking Trump voters for their jobs!

Fair point on the NAM. However this will separate the chaff from the wheat like Harley-Davidson. Don't want to pay Americans a fair wage and have your execs take pay cuts? No? Then gtfo of our country. It's a small price to pay for companies who are actually going to reinvest the generous tax cuts and lower tax rate into their AMERICAN employees.

 

[SP33Demon]

lol. Dummy got duped again. Here's what they ACTUALLY did with the money:

https://www.nbcnews.com/business/ec...erica-do-tax-break-buy-record-amounts-n886621



Owned again.

You don't get it, do you? Especially after your hero hillary lost? Americans don't give a shit about what corporations are making as long as they are employed and their wages go up. Your link (ironically and conveniently) provides this fact:
"Average hourly pay has risen 2.7 percent in May from a year ago, but it's not as fast as the surge in corporate profits."

This is an improvement over obama's BS stagnant wages. Everyone benefitted from the tax cuts, including Trump voters. Let me guess, you're going to cut the Treasury a check for your Trump tax savings? Didn't think so.

List of companies who gave their employees bonuses b/c of the Trump tax cuts, ask them how they feel about it and who they're voting for 2020.
https://wtvr.com/2018/01/11/list-of-companies-giving-out-raises-and-bonuses-because-of-tax-reform/

 

[fskimospy]

You don't get it, do you? Especially after your hero hillary lost? Americans don't give a shit about what corporations are making as long as they are employed and their wages go up. Your link (ironically and conveniently) provides this fact:
"Average hourly pay has risen 2.7 percent in May from a year ago, but it's not as fast as the surge in corporate profits."

This is an improvement over obama's BS stagnant wages. Everyone benefitted from the tax cuts, including Trump voters. Let me guess, you're going to cut the Treasury a check for your Trump tax savings? Didn't think so.

List of companies who gave their employees bonuses b/c of the Trump tax cuts, ask them how they feel about it and who they're voting for 2020.
https://wtvr.com/2018/01/11/list-of-companies-giving-out-raises-and-bonuses-because-of-tax-reform/

Wrong again, dummy. lol. The 2.7% figure is before adjusting for inflation. Wage growth under Trump has actually been slower than the last few years of Obama's tenure. He made things worse.

Aren't you even the slightest bit embarrassed that this keeps happening to you over and over again?

 

[Jhhnn]

Fair point on the NAM. However this will separate the chaff from the wheat like Harley-Davidson. Don't want to pay Americans a fair wage and have your execs take pay cuts? No? Then gtfo of our country. It's a small price to pay for companies who are actually going to reinvest the generous tax cuts and lower tax rate into their AMERICAN employees.

So dim. Harley's exports will suffer because of retaliatory tariffs. They won't be able to compete in offshore markets on the basis of price. So they can either move production for those markets to facilities where those tariffs don't apply or simply let their competitors have the sales.

 

[IJTSSG]

Sure, the GAO made a report and everything.

https://www.gao.gov/assets/690/683984.pdf

We have a problem in this country, the political right has a serious violence problem and conservatives aren't willing to confront it.

Thanks for that report. It's interesting.

To recap. During the period that report covers there have been ~245,000 homicides in the US. According to the linked report there were 62 incidents resulting in 106 deaths by "far right violent extremists" and 23 incidents resulting in 119 deaths by "radical islamist violent extremists" and it is your contention that the political right has a serious violence problem and conservatives aren't willing to confront it. Is that right?

 

[Jhhnn]

Thanks for that report. It's interesting.

To recap. During the period that report covers there have been ~245,000 homicides in the US. According to the linked report there were 62 incidents resulting in 106 deaths by "far right violent extremists" and 23 incidents resulting in 119 deaths by "radical islamist violent extremists" and it is your contention that the political right has a serious violence problem and conservatives aren't willing to confront it. Is that right?

The votes of right wing extremists are low hanging fruit for the GOP so of course there is pandering. Too bad their conservative allies aren't picky about the company they keep. That applies to an army of Russian trolls & bots, as well.

 

[IJTSSG]

The votes of right wing extremists are low hanging fruit for the GOP so of course there is pandering. Too bad their conservative allies aren't picky about the company they keep. That applies to an army of Russian trolls & bots, as well.

106 deaths is a slow weekend in the inner cities of Chicago, Baltimore and Richmond. Wanna place a wager on what political party those folks identify with?

 

[Jhhnn]

106 deaths is a slow weekend in the inner cities of Chicago, Baltimore and Richmond. Wanna place a wager on what political party those folks identify with?

I seriously doubt that gangsters identify with any political party. You also exaggerate insanely. There were 343 homicides in Baltimore for all of 2017, for example.

Who's been going on about second amendment solutions, anyway? Democrats? Or far right GOP'ers, Trump included?