Meat is striking out.

tboo

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Here is the link to the article.

Doesnt Prince Fielder suck this year? Also his "natures strongest athletes are vegetarians" comment is a strech.
 

sdifox

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Originally posted by: tboo
Here is the link to the article.

Doesnt Prince Fielder suck this year? Also his "natures strongest athletes are vegetarians" comment is a strech.

You mean cheetahs chase gazelles for fun?
 

Agentbolt

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Originally posted by: sdifox
Originally posted by: tboo
Here is the link to the article.

Doesnt Prince Fielder suck this year? Also his "natures strongest athletes are vegetarians" comment is a strech.

You mean cheetahs chase gazelles for fun?

Cheetahs are fast, not so much strong. I'm not necessarily saying the dude's analogy has merit, but cheetahs are not the best example to use.

I would go so far as to say a LOT of the world's "strongest" animals are vegetarians.
 

Baked

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Whales eat shrimps by the tons. Ants eat other animals, alive. What the hell is he talking about strong athletes being hippies. Ok, maybe elephants.
 

LegendKiller

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That was one of the most idiotic articles in the history of journalism.

1. *ONE* athlete going vegy doesn't equate to any pattern of power. The author says that he hit the most homes runs in Brewer history. So fucking what? It's the *BREWERS* for fucks sake. He ignores every other slugger in history that have eaten meat.

2. Author then rants against processed meats, using a study of cancer to say they are horrible to eat, providing support for his assertion that one Brewer is proof that veggy is the way to go. However, he can only use ONE form of meat (and a poor one at that) to fight against *ALL* meat. This is more than 50% of his article. Not all meat is processed meat, so who the fuck cares?

3. He goes on to say that there are benefits to not eating *ALL* meat, which supposedly makes this 100mi runner a perfect example. Yet what about all of the runners and athletes that have eaten meat throughout history? AFAIK, Lance Armstrong isn't a veghead.

What if that guy who is a veghead and runs 100mi has something else his body has as an advantage? One advantage LA has is an incredible pain tolerence and an above normal lung capacity.

The whole premise of the article is just a pandering shill piece of vegetarians. It's pathetic.
 

LegendKiller

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Originally posted by: Baked
Whales eat shrimps by the tons. Ants eat other animals, alive. What the hell is he talking about strong athletes being hippies. Ok, maybe elephants.

Don't forget, whales = fat. Fat = bad. Whales = bad.
 

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Originally posted by: LegendKiller
Originally posted by: Baked
Whales eat shrimps by the tons. Ants eat other animals, alive. What the hell is he talking about strong athletes being hippies. Ok, maybe elephants.

Don't forget, whales = fat. Fat = bad. Whales = bad.

And ants can lift ten times thier body weight with thier mouths.

 

sdifox

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Originally posted by: Agentbolt
Originally posted by: sdifox
Originally posted by: tboo
Here is the link to the article.

Doesnt Prince Fielder suck this year? Also his "natures strongest athletes are vegetarians" comment is a strech.

You mean cheetahs chase gazelles for fun?

Cheetahs are fast, not so much strong. I'm not necessarily saying the dude's analogy has merit, but cheetahs are not the best example to use.

I would go so far as to say a LOT of the world's "strongest" animals are vegetarians.

takes a lot of power to propel yourself to 100+kmph...they could probably keep on going except for the overheat.
 

Kaido

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Originally posted by: LegendKiller
That was one of the most idiotic articles in the history of journalism.

1. *ONE* athlete going vegy doesn't equate to any pattern of power. The author says that he hit the most homes runs in Brewer history. So what? It's the *BREWERS* for fucks sake. He ignores every other slugger in history that have eaten meat.

2. Author then rants against processed meats, using a study of cancer to say they are horrible to eat, providing support for his assertion that one Brewer is proof that veggy is the way to go. However, he can only use ONE form of meat (and a poor one at that) to fight against *ALL* meat. This is more than 50% of his article. Not all meat is processed meat, so who cares?

3. He goes on to say that there are benefits to not eating *ALL* meat, which supposedly makes this 100mi runner a perfect example. Yet what about all of the runners and athletes that have eaten meat throughout history? AFAIK, Lance Armstrong isn't a veghead.

What if that guy who is a veghead and runs 100mi has something else his body has as an advantage? One advantage LA has is an incredible pain tolerence and an above normal lung capacity.

The whole premise of the article is just a pandering shill piece of vegetarians. It's pathetic.

One of the guys who won Ironman Hawaii 6 times in a row was a vegetarian for the duration of his training. But I think it boils down to genetics. If you've read about V02 max and all that stuff, being a top athlete pretty much boils down to what you're born with. There was an old guy in the news, I think 101 years old, who still runs marathons. And smokes while he's running. And goes to the pub in the morning before the race for a pint.
 

Agentbolt

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Originally posted by: sdifox
Originally posted by: Agentbolt
Originally posted by: sdifox
Originally posted by: tboo
Here is the link to the article.

Doesnt Prince Fielder suck this year? Also his "natures strongest athletes are vegetarians" comment is a strech.

You mean cheetahs chase gazelles for fun?

Cheetahs are fast, not so much strong. I'm not necessarily saying the dude's analogy has merit, but cheetahs are not the best example to use.

I would go so far as to say a LOT of the world's "strongest" animals are vegetarians.

takes a lot of power to propel yourself to 100+kmph...they could probably keep on going except for the overheat.

It takes some leg power, but it's not really a brute strength thing. Look at human sprinters, they're usually pretty buff but not like weightlifters or anything.

Again, I'm only talking about power output here. Cheetahs can run really fast for a few seconds, but how much weight could they pull behind them? It's two different things.
 
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Nature's strongest animals are vegetarians? Bullshit. Let's see...

An ant can carry up to 50 times it's own body weight. Ants are omnivirous, consuming meat when it is available.
Fleas can jump higher than any other animal proportionally. Fleas are a parasitic species, surviving on the blood of a host animal.
Many spiders, bees, wasps and roaches are proportionally much stronger than elephants or bulls and survive on an omnivorous or carnivorous diet. Admittedly, the strongest insect of all appears to be the Rhinoceros Beetle which is strictly herbivorous; however, with many, many examples in the world of insects and arachnids of ominvorous or carnivorous species whose proportional physical prowess far eclipses that of any mammal, this author's point about vegetarianism is revealed to be utter bullshit.
 

glutenberg

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I don't think the article can include gorillas as vegetarians. They're more omnivores than vegetarians. Plus, he left out a huge amount of strong animals that are carnivores. The entire canine and feline families are immensely strong. A polar bear kills walruses with its massive strength. The article was pretty weak.
 

rockyct

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his stats from 2007: 573 AB, 50 HR, 119 RBI, .288 avg, 1.013 OPS
so far his stats from 2008: 163 AB, 6 HR, 24 RBI, .258 avg, .788 OPS

granted he's probably in a slump, but those numbers aren't exactly convincing me to go vegi.

 
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Originally posted by: Agentbolt
Originally posted by: sdifox
Originally posted by: tboo
Here is the link to the article.

Doesnt Prince Fielder suck this year? Also his "natures strongest athletes are vegetarians" comment is a strech.

You mean cheetahs chase gazelles for fun?

Cheetahs are fast, not so much strong. I'm not necessarily saying the dude's analogy has merit, but cheetahs are not the best example to use.

I would go so far as to say a LOT of the world's "strongest" animals are vegetarians.

Hippos and elephants and rhinos and cows? They aren't so much strong as they are big and heavy.

Technically the strongest animal on the planet is probably the bear and it eats a balanced diet of meat and plants. :)
 

sdifox

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Originally posted by: Agentbolt
Originally posted by: sdifox
Originally posted by: Agentbolt
Originally posted by: sdifox
Originally posted by: tboo
Here is the link to the article.

Doesnt Prince Fielder suck this year? Also his "natures strongest athletes are vegetarians" comment is a strech.

You mean cheetahs chase gazelles for fun?

Cheetahs are fast, not so much strong. I'm not necessarily saying the dude's analogy has merit, but cheetahs are not the best example to use.

I would go so far as to say a LOT of the world's "strongest" animals are vegetarians.

takes a lot of power to propel yourself to 100+kmph...they could probably keep on going except for the overheat.

It takes some leg power, but it's not really a brute strength thing. Look at human sprinters, they're usually pretty buff but not like weightlifters or anything.

Again, I'm only talking about power output here. Cheetahs can run really fast for a few seconds, but how much weight could they pull behind them? It's two different things.

fair enough. How about sharks :)
 

LegendKiller

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Originally posted by: Kaido
One of the guys who won Ironman Hawaii 6 times in a row was a vegetarian for the duration of his training. But I think it boils down to genetics. If you've read about V02 max and all that stuff, being a top athlete pretty much boils down to what you're born with. There was an old guy in the news, I think 101 years old, who still runs marathons. And smokes while he's running. And goes to the pub in the morning before the race for a pint.

There's certainly anecdotal evidence pointing to some people, but they are exceptions to the overall population. I fully agree that diet may help in some cases, but it comes down to genetics.
 
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Originally posted by: Agentbolt
Originally posted by: sdifox
Originally posted by: Agentbolt
Originally posted by: sdifox
Originally posted by: tboo
Here is the link to the article.

Doesnt Prince Fielder suck this year? Also his "natures strongest athletes are vegetarians" comment is a strech.

You mean cheetahs chase gazelles for fun?

Cheetahs are fast, not so much strong. I'm not necessarily saying the dude's analogy has merit, but cheetahs are not the best example to use.

I would go so far as to say a LOT of the world's "strongest" animals are vegetarians.

takes a lot of power to propel yourself to 100+kmph...they could probably keep on going except for the overheat.

It takes some leg power, but it's not really a brute strength thing. Look at human sprinters, they're usually pretty buff but not like weightlifters or anything.

Again, I'm only talking about power output here. Cheetahs can run really fast for a few seconds, but how much weight could they pull behind them? It's two different things.

So the big fat kid you who have anchor your tug of war team is the strongest or just the one with the greatest mass?
 

glutenberg

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Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
Originally posted by: Agentbolt
Originally posted by: sdifox
Originally posted by: Agentbolt
Originally posted by: sdifox
Originally posted by: tboo
Here is the link to the article.

Doesnt Prince Fielder suck this year? Also his "natures strongest athletes are vegetarians" comment is a strech.

You mean cheetahs chase gazelles for fun?

Cheetahs are fast, not so much strong. I'm not necessarily saying the dude's analogy has merit, but cheetahs are not the best example to use.

I would go so far as to say a LOT of the world's "strongest" animals are vegetarians.

takes a lot of power to propel yourself to 100+kmph...they could probably keep on going except for the overheat.

It takes some leg power, but it's not really a brute strength thing. Look at human sprinters, they're usually pretty buff but not like weightlifters or anything.

Again, I'm only talking about power output here. Cheetahs can run really fast for a few seconds, but how much weight could they pull behind them? It's two different things.

So the big fat kid you who have anchor your tug of war team is the strongest or just the one with the greatest mass?

You can't really compare a fat kid with the sheer power of an elephant or hippo or rhino. There are definitely very strong herbivores out there but I'd still say that there are far more strong omnivores out there.
 

sdifox

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Originally posted by: glutenberg

You can't really compare a fat kid with the sheer power of an elephant or hippo or rhino. There are definitely very strong herbivores out there but I'd still say that there are far more strong omnivores out there.

they are strong because they are massive. Ants are actually a lot stronger if you take scale into mass/power ratio into account.
 

CPA

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The 100mile runner would hardly be strong, either. I don't see a pic of him, but I'll bet he's a skinny runt.