Measles outbreak in Washington state

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DarthKyrie

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I have to respond to this because this mis-information is why we are here. Vaccines do not cause autism. Period. This has been heavily researched and the guy who originally came up with the idea of the MMR vaccine causing autism, Andrew Wakefield, was found lying the whole time for financial gain. Since his originally paper in the Lancet in 1998, which is no retracted, every researcher since then has found no correlation. They cannot reproduce his methods, they cannot find an association whatsoever. Andrew Wakefield's paper is the only one with dozens of others proving his false. To give you an idea, his original research was based on only 12 patients. One of the articles linked below researched over 90000 and could find no association. Autism is actually more associated with genetics then with anything we give during childhood - https://www.spectrumnews.org/news/autism-genetics-explained/


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_Wakefield

https://www.skepticalraptor.com/skepticalraptorblog.php/andrew-wakefield-fraud-extraordinaire/

https://www.cdc.gov/vaccinesafety/vaccines/mmr-vaccine.html

https://www.autismspeaks.org/scienc...k-large-study-vaccinated-vs-unvaccinated-kids

https://www.nature.com/articles/4001181

Dude, I was joking. Although I am on the spectrum it wasn't caused by vaccines thou.
 
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Anyone else find it suspicious that a whole mess of anti vaccination twitter accounts were tied to the troll factory in Russia, a place where vaccinations are not optional?
 
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Look at the good news, if you were born post 1957 and pre vaxxer madness (1998ish) you have been vaccinated and are 90-97% protected. Even if you get measles you’ll likely have a mild case.
 
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VRAMdemon

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Darla Shine, the wife of ex-Fox producer and current White House communications director Bill Shine, is ranting against vaccinations. Measles keep us from getting cancer, apparently.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/darla...ficial-goes-on-pro-measles-anti-vaccine-rant/

Dead people in fact do not get cancer. I guess that's is a valid point.

And it is hard to argue against her other point: that Baby Boomers who are alive today were not, in fact, killed by preventable childhood diseases....lol!
 
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dainthomas

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My kids love that Masked Singer show, but I think they're getting annoyed with me yelling at the TV every time they show Jenny McCarthy's stupid face.
 
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SlowSpyder

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Washington is a very blue state and as pointed out in my leftist war on science thread, things like this are bound to happen because they care more about feelings than facts when it comes to a number of subjects.
 

Amused

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Washington is a very blue state and as pointed out in my leftist war on science thread, things like this are bound to happen because they care more about feelings than facts when it comes to a number of subjects.

And has been pointed out to you, feeling based anti-vax sentiment is nearly equal between right/left with the right-wing being slightly more anti-vax than the left.

https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0158382

But hey, why let facts get in the way of a good narrative, right?
 

sportage

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Measles is now showing up nation wide.
And all because VERY IGNORANT PARENTS will not vaccinate their kids.
I think it was Mitchelle Bachman and Sarah Plain that first started this anti vaccination crap when they were enjoying their 15 minutes of fame.
Now, we have many kids suffering and every child not vaccinated at risk.
All because some lame brain idiots talked stupid parents into believing something that was never true.
Sarah fought against healthy foods and healthy kids mainly because a black woman named Michelle Obama pushed health. Sarah wanted kids to drink huge amounts of pop and sugar. Fatten em up like a pig.
And then it was fighting against vaccinating the kids.
I don't get it.
How is it people can listen to these flat-earth morons, anyway?
And here we are, finding ourselves back again in the 1950's re-fighting Measles and Polio.
Can't we create a vaccination to eliminate these idiots? PLEASE!
 
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Measles is now showing up nation wide.
And all because VERY IGNORANT PARENTS will not vaccinate their kids.
I think it was Mitchelle Bachman and Sarah Plain that first started this anti vaccination crap when they were enjoying their 15 minutes of fame.
Now, we have many kids suffering and every child not vaccinated at risk.
All because some lame brain idiots talked stupid parents into believing something that was never true.
Sarah fought against healthy foods and healthy kids mainly because a black woman named Michelle Obama pushed health. Sarah wanted kids to drink huge amounts of pop and sugar. Fatten em up like a pig.
And then it was fighting against vaccinating the kids.
I don't get it.
How is it people can listen to these flat-earth morons, anyway?
And here we are, finding ourselves back again in the 1950's re-fighting Measles and Polio.
Can't we create a vaccination to eliminate these idiots? PLEASE!

That’s one thing Red States do well and we should all follow.
Basically:
Fuck you! Your kids must be vaccinated. Fuck you
 

dainthomas

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Washington is a very blue state and as pointed out in my leftist war on science thread, things like this are bound to happen because they care more about feelings than facts when it comes to a number of subjects.

Clark County is red. To the point where they turned down a new interstate bridge because it would have brought Portland's commie light rail system to their side of the river. Even knowing the current bridge will fall into the river during the next big earthquake.
 
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zinfamous

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Darla Shine, the wife of ex-Fox producer and current White House communications director Bill Shine, is ranting against vaccinations. Measles keep us from getting cancer, apparently.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/darla...ficial-goes-on-pro-measles-anti-vaccine-rant/

Dead people in fact do not get cancer. I guess that's is a valid point.

And it is hard to argue against her other point: that Baby Boomers who are alive today were not, in fact, killed by preventable childhood diseases....lol!

Actually, I think there are some now well-known reports of certain patients, having survived measles at a certain age, that presented a significantly-increased resistance to metastasis and ability to fight off certain cancers. Of course, this doesn't mean "measles prevents cancer!" (cancer being an extremely broad term), but it was reports like this, fairly recently, that brought some investigators back into the long-abandoned, but now resurgent and promising field of immunotherapy-based treatment for certain cancers...which tend to use denatured viruses (basically, those vaccine things) to treat certain disease.

https://www.mayo.edu/research/cente...irotherapy-treatment-metastatic-breast-cancer

You can co-opt the natural behaviors of viruses and, long a tool in molecular biology--bateriophages, which are viruses that specifically target certain prokaryotes--replace their internal packaging with your drug or designed retrovirus of interest, to selectively identity and fight specific cells.
 
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hal2kilo

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Darla Shine, the wife of ex-Fox producer and current White House communications director Bill Shine, is ranting against vaccinations. Measles keep us from getting cancer, apparently.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/darla...ficial-goes-on-pro-measles-anti-vaccine-rant/

Dead people in fact do not get cancer. I guess that's is a valid point.

And it is hard to argue against her other point: that Baby Boomers who are alive today were not, in fact, killed by preventable childhood diseases....lol!
I feel stupid just from reading about said stupid person, full of hogwash info. Should be arrested for spreading false information.
 
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Yes, because I'm sure there aren't any conservatives in the state of Washington or any other "liberal" areas.

Southern States have earned their reputation for idiocy through hard work and sheer will.
Also: https://www.chron.com/news/houston-texas/houston/article/CDC-Houston-worst-city-measles-13592213.php

There's a variety of factors and its not simple anti-vax idiots (although they are idiots and make things worse for sure).

Houston is... very much a liberal city detective dipshit - just like most major urban areas. Nice try though - considering I live there I can definitely verify that - but here is a map just to confirm it for you.

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It really is only anti-vac morons, because you are typicall required to have vaccinations, and unless you fight it with opposition (religious reasons or what have you) - it tends to get addressed for anyone with half a brain.
 

Amused

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So why the fucking pissing match over anti-vaxxers being left or right?

It's already been conclusively proven they are split down the middle evenly.

So why are the right wingers here so desperate to paint this as left wing?
 

Jhhnn

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Washington is a very blue state and as pointed out in my leftist war on science thread, things like this are bound to happen because they care more about feelings than facts when it comes to a number of subjects.

Right winger raves about vaccination. Slow blame the Democrats. More at 11.
 
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Meghan54

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For some reason, this seems to sum up today's young parents/parenting:
(It did make me laugh, sadly)

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UglyCasanova

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Call me an anti vaxxer or whatever you want. I installed an antivirus on my laptop earlier and now it’s got autism. Never again