Mcveigh...in about NOW...

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chainbolt

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This circus is shameless and disgusting, must be similar to some bloody games 2000 years ago somewhere in Rome.
 

Cyberian

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<< My only question is why weren't his parents executed too?

Jesus christ people, how hard is it NOT to f'up your kid!!!
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Do we automatically blame parents for bad children?

One of my best friends has 6 kids. Five are married with children, own their own homes, belong to the PTA, have decent jobs and are productive members of society.
One has been nothing but trouble from the time he was 12-14 years old. Drugs, alcohol, jail, car and motorcycle accidents, fights, etc.

What do you suggest we do with the parents?
 

FriedToast

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I, for one, am glad that he's gone. Good riddance to bad rubbish.

For those of you who are against the death penalty, I provide a compromise:
Anyone who is against the death penalty may sign up and donate money towards his housing fees at an insitution made for such persons. As long as enough people donate enough money to keep him alive, he stays alive. Not enough people paying? Time for the rope. Let him dangle.

I'd rather not spend my life working to keep him alive. It may seem cold, but that's the way I see it. I'm a very compassionate person. But not in this instance. My heart goes out to the victims. I've seen enough of the justice system in the US mollycoddling criminals and burying the victims that it makes me sick.

You want him alive? Fine. You pay for it. Makes me wonder how many anti-death penalty people would stick around to pay their fair share. I'm not saying that some ppl wouldn't. But it'd be interesting to see if anyone changed their mind.
 

shiner

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<< I dare to say that all the ppl here that want(ed) to kill this guy themselves are no better than him either >>



Fvck you buddy! I knew people in that building. I was on site within a couple of hours helping out. Unless you have personally experienced something like pulling dead children out of a pile of rubble then I suggest you keep your ignorant mouth shut!
 

FriedToast

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<< I dare to say that all the ppl here that want(ed) to kill this guy themselves are no better than him either >>


I don't know that I'm no better than him. How could I possibly be the judge of that? I'm biased. Of course I

think I'm better than him. But do I really know that? No. On the other hand, I've not willfully participated in a heinous terrorist action that resulted in the loss of many innocent lives.

Let us not forget that the World Trade Center was next. How many ppl have to die to prove that these ppl are malignant cancers in society? I respect everyone's right to have their own opinions. At the same time, I feel sorry for those who do not have the moral strength to do what I consider the right thing to do: eliminate the cancer.

It doesn't really matter what any of us say. I'm going to believe what I believe. Everyone else will believe what they're going to believe. We can argue til we're all blue in the faces. That's not going to change anyone's mind. That's why I offered the compromise. Because this is such a sticky issue for so many ppl. There's no possible way that everyone's going to agree on one course of action in what to do w/ ppl like McVeigh.
 

Kosugi

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My only question is why weren't his parents executed too?

Jesus christ people, how hard is it NOT to f'up your kid!!!



Yeah! And why don't we execute all his friends too! They should have seen it coming and should have stopped him. And then we can execute everyone in his first grade class, since they could have dropped him off a see-saw at recess, and this crime would not have taken place!


And then we can execute Janet Reno, for ordering Waco. And Louis Freeh for Ruby Ridge, since they were what he thought he was lashing out at.

And then we can execute everyone in Iraq, since they should have killed him when he fought in a war there.


-No-

Enough blood has been spilled. Enough pain. It is now too late for everyone. It is now time to heal. Tolerance and compassion must once again be the order of the day, and not revenge. Be it revenge against the government, or revenge against a single man. This sad chapter in American History has come to a close. Let it be.
 

huanaku

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I agree with him being put to death. The judicial process is so slow at times. I wonder how much less crime there would be if criminals were immediately prosecuted instead of months/years after the fact. immediate action would scare more people into being good, imo.
 

BlackSoul

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<< Killing him also violates his human rights. >>





As far as I am concerned, that subhuman gave up his human rights when he chose to kill all those people. I wonder how many people that are against this execution support the &quot;little Bush kid&quot;? He wouldn't have thought twice about pushing the button himself.
 

Buddhist

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&quot;Buddhist:

Thank you.

BTW, that Plato character was pretty sharp, wasn't he?&quot;

Wasn't he a she (and a hottie for her time of poplualrity at that) and played in that sandpit with gary coleman? ;)

Socrates was my real favorite.
hehe
 

KrakeN

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Here's my humble opinion:

I think we need to kill and revive him 169 times. You know, just before death...time to (*ahem*) attempt to revive him. Once revived, try something different. Couple heart-stops here and there, flat-line him a few times and shock the hell out of him to bring him back.

Now I'll wait for the &quot;cruel and unusual punishment&quot; people to bash on me...but like I said at the start - my humble opinion.
 

Doomer

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They should have put him in solitary with Big Bubba.

Death by prison orgy. This is probably what he feared the most and why he opted for execution rather than life in prison.

Yep, Big Bubba would have made it feel better. :D
 

shifrbv

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immediate action would scare more people into being good

Yeah, let's do it like they do in China. Shoot first, ask questions later.

I think the only person who even bothered to ask the important question here was Kosugi wondering what type of a society could produce someone like Tim McVeigh. Gee, I don't know. A government that breaks into someone's property upon suspicion of a man abusing adolescent girls and kills everyone there, yet allows another man accused of molesting adolescent girls around the world to host a presidential inaugurual luncheon just this year. A government that sends snipers out to shoot a man's family because his religion is &quot;anti-government, white supremecy&quot; while at the same time forcing it's own oppressive &quot;moral&quot; religion upon everyone else stripping away their 1st amendment rights with no apologies to be found. A government that holds Leonard Peltier in jail for decades with no evidence that he shot anyone because he was a vocal opponent to the US' treatment of American Indians. The list goes on and on.

While I don't agree with McVeigh's methodology, his ideology is very real. Only sheep wouldn't be able to see it.








 

LemonHead

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Athanasius

Thank You! I was thinking pretty much the same thing. I truly believe that people need to be held accountable for their actions!!! Tim knew that the price for his &quot;mission&quot; could very well be the death penalty if he were caught. This world seems to make so many allowances and excuses for people who do not want to take responsibility for what they do. He made his choice; he must now pay the price.