McDonald's workers want $15 an hour

dank69

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I'm just about as liberal as they come, but working at McD's isn't supposed to be a career...
 

ichy

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Eh, they can demand whatever they want. McDonalds doesn't have a right to cheap labor.
 

KaOTiK

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McDonald's should tell them to go work at Wal Mart if they don't like their $9 an hour
 

KeithP

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Sounds like a good idea. If it can work for Hostess it can work for...oh wait.

-KeithP
 

ProchargeMe

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The amount of McDonald's everybody eats I'm not very surprised about this. McDonald's restaurants go up so fast you'd never know they were building more until you go down a road you travel everyday and one day notice a brand new McD's out of nowhere. Aliens.
 

Hugo Drax

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In 35 years Fastfood will be the Career of the future. That is after you qualify for employment. Requirement being 4 year degree in Fastfood operations
 

bigrash

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Raymond Lopez, a 21-year old shift manager at a midtown Manhattan McDonald's, was one of the workers protesting Thursday morning. Lopez makes $8.75 an hour, after working at the hamburger joint for two years. Despite a 40-hour work week, Lopez works two more jobs to supplement his income, a part-time job at a condominium and at a caterer to pay his bills and his $500 student loan payments each month.

$500 per month in student loans? I'm guessing he went to a good college then why is he working at McD?
 

kranky

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Does anyone else think most fast food places actually could afford to pay more by cutting the overall number of workers and only keeping the best ones? Most times I'm in a fast food place there are 5-6 people working and 2-3 more staring off into space and drooling.
 

mshan

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$15 / hour is lunch shift (my guess is 2 - 3 hour total shift) in Bakken Shale: http://money.cnn.com/2011/09/28/pf/north_dakota_jobs/index.htm?iid=EL


Surprised some of the workers in that article have full time jobs, because it seems like sophisticated software has reduced alot of these places to just a full time manager and shift boss and everyone else part-time:
"Technology is speeding this transformation. In the past, part-timers might work the same schedule of four- or five-hour shifts every week. But workers’ schedules have become far less predictable and stable. Many retailers now use sophisticated software that tracks the flow of customers, allowing managers to assign just enough employees to handle the anticipated demand.

“Many employers now schedule shifts as short as two or three hours, while historically they may have scheduled eight-hour shifts,” said David Ossip, founder of Dayforce, a producer of scheduling software used by chains like Aéropostale and Pier One Imports.

Some employers even ask workers to come in at the last minute, and the workers risk losing their jobs or being assigned fewer hours in the future if they are unavailable."
"Retailers and restaurants use so many part-timers not only because it gives them more flexibility, but because it significantly cuts payroll costs.

According to the Bureau of Labor Statistics, part-time workers in service jobs received average compensation of $10.92 an hour in June, which includes $8.90 in wages plus benefits of $2.02. Full-time workers in that sector averaged 57 percent more in total compensation — $17.18 an hour, made up of $12.25 in wages and $4.93 in benefits. Benefit costs are far lower for part-timers because, for example, just 21 percent of them are in employer-backed retirement plans, compared with 65 percent of full-timers."

"If the mercury is going to hit 95 the next day, for instance, the software will suggest scheduling more employees based on the historic increase in store traffic in hot weather. At the 53rd Street store, Ms. Rosser said, that can mean seven employees on the busy 11-to-2 shift, rather than the typical four or five.

Such powerful scheduling software, developed by companies like Dayforce and Kronos over the last decade, has been widely adopted by retail and restaurant chains. The Kronos program that Jamba bought in 2009 breaks down schedules into 15-minute increments. So if the lunchtime rush at a particular shop slows down at 1:45, the software may suggest cutting 15 minutes from the shift of an employee normally scheduled from 9 a.m. to 2 p.m.

Karen Luey, Jamba’s chief financial officer, said the scheduling software “helped us take 400, 500 basis points out of our labor costs,” or 4 to 5 percentage points, a savings of millions of dollars a year.

At Jamba Juice, which has 770 outlets, managers used to piece together their stores’ weekly schedules on an Excel spreadsheet. It took managers about two hours to slot in 25 to 30 employees, all generally part-time except for the store manager and one or two shift managers. With the Kronos software, scheduling takes just 30 minutes.

The software keeps tabs on when workers are available, their skills and who makes the most sales per hour. While such software is a powerful tool, management’s judgment is still important, said Aron J. Ain, Kronos’s chief executive. “The budget is how many people you need at a certain time,” he said, “but the magic is deciding who is to work at what time.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/10/28/b...for-american-workers.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0
 
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OverVolt

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$500 per month in student loans? I'm guessing he went to a good college then why is he working at McD?

College sucks now. Its different. The quality is down, the number of grads is way up. My college went on a "admit 5,000 more students, hire no additional faculty!!!" idea, as if it was the most brilliant thing ever. Aggregate GPA's, graduate school admissions, internships all plummeted as did the 4-year graduation rate.
 

CPA

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$500 per month in student loans? I'm guessing he went to a good college then why is he working at McD?

I wonder if that guy is also protesting the condominium and the caterer, because I can guarantee he's not making much more than $8.50/hour at both of those places.
 

slag

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The amount of McDonald's everybody eats I'm not very surprised about this. McDonald's restaurants go up so fast you'd never know they were building more until you go down a road you travel everyday and one day notice a brand new McD's out of nowhere. Aliens.

There are more subway restaurants in the US than McDonalds.
 

KeithTalent

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$15/hour for completely unskilled braindead labour? Yeah, right...

KT
 

Sixguns

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The McD here in town has a greeter! Really? The last time I went there over 2 years ago, this lady was walking around talking to everybody as the ate. Why would you pay somebody to do this?
 

PokerGuy

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Every single one of the idiots protesting should be immediately fired. Guess what, it's a simple supply and demand issue. There is an ample supply of people with no particular training or in-demand skillset...... logically the pay for those jobs will not be very high. Only union idiots would think it logical to pay more to people than the value of their contribution to the organization.