Mcdonalds employee told to sign up for welfare

[Texashiker]

We have a choice, demand companies like walmart and mcdonalds pay a higher wage, or pay more in taxes to support the welfare state those companies are creating.

http://www.theatlantic.com/business...-employees-to-sign-up-for-food-stamps/280812/

McDonalds employee calls company help line, help line tells the employee about food stamps and other social programs.

 

[Matt1970]

The trades are always hiring and pay twice what McDonalds does.

 

[WackyDan]

If you are working fast food for ten years full time and aren't a manager... You are doing it wrong and it is your own dam fault.

Secondly... Why employ someone like that full time anyway?

 

[EagleKeeper]

Artificial higher wages ripple through the economy and accomplish nothing except shaft everyone else.

 

[Texashiker]

Artificial higher wages ripple through the economy and accomplish nothing except shaft everyone else.

There is only X amount of money in the economy.

The more money we get into working class families means less money for wall street.

Prices will go up, but it will balance out after awhile.

 

[LTC8K6]

Those jobs are not intended to support a family.

They are intended to be second jobs, college jobs, retirement jobs, or transition jobs.

Of course you can't support a family flipping burgers. Nor should you be able to.

It's ridiculous to even suggest it.

Just as it's ridiculous to flip burgers all your life and then whine about your wages.

 

[PokerGuy]

Why is it up to McDonalds to make sure that person makes enough money to pay their bills? McDonalds is offering a wage based on the supply and demand in the market. If someone wants to make more than that, they need to have skills for which there is demand that makes the wages go higher than minimum wage.

I see absolutely no problem with McD's providing their employees with information on getting available benefits.

 

[drebo]

Rofl. $7bn whole dollars.

How about the other $1193bn that make up the rest of the welfare budget?

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If the employee is only intelligent enough to work dead-end fast food, why should he be entitled to money he wouldn't otherwise be able to obtain?

 

[EagleKeeper]

There is only X amount of money in the economy.

The more money we get into working class families means less money for wall street.

Prices will go up, but it will balance out after awhile.

And when the cost of goods for that working family goes up $30 as a result of the $1/hr increase?

Who benefits - not that working family.
The government that collected taxes that that family can not spend from the $1

 

[Texashiker]

I see absolutely no problem with McD's providing their employees with information on getting available benefits.

So you are willing to pay more taxes to support people who work for mcdonalds?

And when the cost of goods for that working family goes up $30 as a result of the $1/hr increase?

Who benefits - not that working family.
The government that collected taxes that that family can not spend from the $1

Lets say that you and I are a nation, you are wall street and I am the worker. Between the two of us we have $10.

You pay me 5 cents a week. By the end of the week you get that 5 cents back through me buying stuff.

Government says you have to pay me $3 a week, that only leaves you 7. Well, not I can afford to buy a home rather than be in public housing.

Prices are not going to increase overnight, it will be gradual. Services may go up. But people will be able to buy a car, buy a home, and get off welfare.

 

[Pulsar]

We have a choice, demand companies like walmart and mcdonalds pay a higher wage, or pay more in taxes to support the welfare state those companies are creating.

http://www.theatlantic.com/business...-employees-to-sign-up-for-food-stamps/280812/

McDonalds employee calls company help line, help line tells the employee about food stamps and other social programs.

Or people could get a real job and stop complaining. Unskilled positions requiring the IQ of a moron were never meant to provide a living wage. It's like washing cars, delivering newspapers, or delivering pizzas.

 

[Apple Of Sodom]

That is fucking retarded.

Let's say we increase their wage to $15/hour. For fast food. First, the price at that restaurant would have to go up quite a bit. These people would no longer be able to afford McDonald's shitty food.

We now have a burger flipper that can come to work high making $15/hour. What do we do with the medical receptionist that has to answer phones and questions who is making $15/hour? Why work hard if you can make the same at McDonald's. So, let's give them a little bump too. Say, $22/hour.

Now what do you do with nurses who went to school for 2 or 4 years, have debt, and have people's lives in their hands? They only start at $22/hr or so, which is now the same as a receptionist. Fuck going to school! Unless we give them a raise...

So on and so forth.

Fast Food is an entry level job for kids. It is not a career. All you can do? Well, I am fucking sorry. Life isn't fair.

 

[Brainonska511]

There is only X amount of money in the economy.

The more money we get into working class families means less money for wall street.

Prices will go up, but it will balance out after awhile.

Economics is not a zero-sum game.

 

[WelshBloke]

And when the cost of goods for that working family goes up $30 as a result of the $1/hr increase?

Would the prices go up though?

It's not like shops would stop competing and it's not like people wouldn't suddenly not care how much stuff costs.
Most stuff we buy isn't supply constrained either.

I'm not sure if a small increase in income to the poorest section of the working class would lead to much if any price increases. It would certainly inject some cash into the economy where it's needed though.

 

[Texashiker]

Economics is not a zero-sum game.

I bet that people in the 1970s, making a fraction of what people are making today, were able to buy a home, buy a car and still have money to raise a family.

As more money has shifted to wall street and the bankers, that has left less money for working class families.

 

[drebo]

I bet that people in the 1970s, making a fraction of what people are making today, were able to buy a home, buy a car and still have money to raise a family.

As more money has shifted to wall street and the bankers, that has left less money for working class families.

Not on entry-level fast food jobs, they couldn't.

The difference is that people are far more useless now, and we have a lot more of them.

 

[Texashiker]

Not on entry-level fast food jobs, they couldn't.

The difference is that people are far more useless now, and we have a lot more of them.

You have a choice,

1. Force companies like walmart to pay a liveable wage

2. Pay more in taxes.

Take your pick.

 

[Hugo Drax]

We have a choice, demand companies like walmart and mcdonalds pay a higher wage, or pay more in taxes to support the welfare state those companies are creating.

http://www.theatlantic.com/business...-employees-to-sign-up-for-food-stamps/280812/

McDonalds employee calls company help line, help line tells the employee about food stamps and other social programs.

What I have been saying for a long time. Food stamps,aid etc.. is really a form of Lemon socialism.

The Middle class pay higher taxes so that the 1% tier can have middle class taxpayers make up the difference.

It is a form of Wage arbitrage.

 

[Hugo Drax]

Artificial higher wages ripple through the economy and accomplish nothing except shaft everyone else.

remove all forms of taxpayer assistance, Wages will go up naturally.

 

[nehalem256]

You have a choice,

1. Force companies like walmart to pay a liveable wage

2. Pay more in taxes.

Take your pick.

I think you mean

1.) Pay more in living expenses

2.) Pay more in taxes

No difference to me. Except that by artificially inflating wages people who fail to take responsibility for their lives are able to hide it.

 

[Hugo Drax]

I think you mean

1.) Pay more in living expenses

2.) Pay more in taxes

No difference to me. Except that by artificially inflating wages people who fail to take responsibility for their lives are able to hide it.

Actually wages are artificially deflated, due to the difference being made up with middle class taxpayer paid federal/state assistance.

Option #3 Remove ALL forms of assistance. Wages will then move up to a natural price equilibrium. VS being artificially deflated.

 

[piasabird]

Do away with all Business Expenses. That is just corporate welfare. Even farmers calaim business expenses. Why should the government pay for their business expenses. If they want to start a business tell them to spend their own money. The 30 hour rule was created by the Democrats and Obamacare. Put the blame where it belongs. Dont complain to McDonalds. Go protest to the president and the Democrats like Pelosi. She thinks she is the queen or something.

 

[glenn1]

We have a choice, demand companies like walmart and mcdonalds pay a higher wage, or pay more in taxes to support the welfare state those companies are creating.

http://www.theatlantic.com/business...-employees-to-sign-up-for-food-stamps/280812/

McDonalds employee calls company help line, help line tells the employee about food stamps and other social programs.

So if a progressive person advocates for a poor unemployed person to get welfare benefits, that's compassionate and the progressive is admirable. If OTOH, a corporation hires that same person and then advocates for them to get welfare benefits, the company is evil and greedy.

Lesson for business is, emulate progressives and don't actually hire anyone but just bitch about how much other people get paid while advocating for expanded welfare benefits.

 

[Engineer]

Not on entry-level fast food jobs, they couldn't.

The difference is that people are far more useless now, and we have a lot more of them.

No, the difference is that jobs like McDonalds are replacing manufacturing and other good paying middle class jobs.

 

[Matt1970]

Do away with all Business Expenses. That is just corporate welfare. Even farmers calaim business expenses. Why should the government pay for their business expenses.

That would quickly tank the economy. Do you realize the markups all businesses would have to have if they can't write off simple expenses like employee wages or thier own cost of the products they sell?

Let's say I want to sell motherboards for computers. If my cost from Gigabyte is $100, I would have to sell that board at $200 just to break even. My tax on $200 will be 50% as I will quickly be in the top bracket at this rate (40% Federal, 10% state) so $100 of my $200 goes to Fed and the remaining $100 goes to Gigabyte. Now you have to pay rent, heat, lights, employees, etc, etc....