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So you are willing to pay more taxes to support people who work for mcdonalds?
??? this makes no sense. working or not the guy qualifies for food stamps, higher taxes not found.
So you are willing to pay more taxes to support people who work for mcdonalds?
And when the cost of goods for that working family goes up $30 as a result of the $1/hr increase?
Who benefits - not that working family.
The government that collected taxes that that family can not spend from the $1
So how much would a higher minimum wage cost shoppers at Walmart?
About 46 cents per trip, reports Caroline Fairchild at The Huffington Post.
That figure is based on a 2011 study by CUNY's Stephanie Luce and University of California Berkeley's Ken Jacobs and Dave Graham-Squire.
"Even if Wal-Mart decided to pass 100 percent of the cost on to customers, store prices would still only increase by 1.1%," Fairchild writes.
Because the average customer spends $1,200 per year, that would amount to about $12 annually.
So you are willing to pay more taxes to support people who work for mcdonalds?
What ever happened to teaching people a skill?
No, the difference is that jobs like McDonalds are replacing manufacturing and other good paying middle class jobs.
Those jobs are not intended to support a family.
They are intended to be second jobs, college jobs, retirement jobs, or transition jobs.
Of course you can't support a family flipping burgers. Nor should you be able to.
It's ridiculous to even suggest it.
Just as it's ridiculous to flip burgers all your life and then whine about your wages.
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Like getting dirty, and working outside, and sweating???
That sounds like hard work.
Well if you are unwilling to get your hands dirty or work in the elements, don't be surprised that all you are going to make is minimum wage.
Good example of why we have turned into a welfare nation.
As long as companies are allowed to turn hundreds of millions in profits and pay minimum wage, nothing is going to change.
Regardless of the required skill, the company could afford to pay a liveable wage, but refuses to do so. Who is left to pick up the pieces? The tax payers.
Regardless of what the job was intended for, people who work there still need to pay their bills.
2) Why should unskilled workers get free raises and I don't?
My first job was fast food for $4.50/hr how about that?
Because the company they are working for can afford it.
I bet that people in the 1970s, making a fraction of what people are making today, were able to buy a home, buy a car and still have money to raise a family.
As more money has shifted to wall street and the bankers, that has left less money for working class families.
Not on entry-level fast food jobs, they couldn't.
The difference is that people are far more useless now, and we have a lot more of them.
Its not fair WAAAAA
Because the company they are working for can afford it.
My first job was bagging groceries for $3.35 an hour (1984).
I hear the anecdote that you could "pump gas at a gas station" and "feed a family".
Actually wages are artificially deflated, due to the difference being made up with middle class taxpayer paid federal/state assistance.
Option #3 Remove ALL forms of assistance. Wages will then move up to a natural price equilibrium. VS being artificially deflated.
Pay is derivative of work performed.
??? this makes no sense. working or not the guy qualifies for food stamps, higher taxes not found.
Pay should be directly related to how much money the company makes.
My first job was bagging groceries for $3.35 an hour (1984).
Bullshit. Your graphics prove nothing other than that the US economy has had a multi-decade trend toward services. That's been happening since the 60s and even before.
It has nothing to do with "middle class families switching to McDonald's as their primary income." To say otherwise is dishonest at best.
Fast food was never meant to support a family. Never. Not in the 40s, 50s, 60s, 70s, 80s, 90s, or 2000s. Never. It's not now, nor has it ever been, nor will it ever be.
There are jobs for people who don't want to work fast food and are capable of doing something else. Your claims to the contrary are nothing more than you shoving your head in the sand.
My first job was bagging groceries for $3.35 an hour (1984).
So the by tell, where are those people who used to make good money in manufacturing going then and what kind of wages are they making?
Over 2% of the US jobs are now provided by Walmart, McDonalds and KFC-Yum Brands.
I'm sure that there are plenty of high paying jobs just waiting for these people to jump into....talk about head in the sand.
Just keep watching the lines of good paying jobs leaving, the rise of low wage service jobs and the eventual collapse of the nation and it's economy. Enjoy your service job utopia. You've earned (and apparently are happy with) it.