McCain the "Great Conservative"

[Fern]

Originally posted by: OrByte

Originally posted by: Fern

Originally posted by: OrByte
BWAHAHA

the right couldn't STAAND McCain barely 8 months ago

what a joke.

Who says the "right" likes him now?

Some unknown authors give their opinion that McCain is more conservative than the right thinks and that means what exactly?

Get back to us when Rush & Hannity et al start calling him the "next Reagan".

Fern

OH..ok...

so the "right" doesn't like their candidate then... 😱

No, they don't.

He won't win either. Most votes for him will be votes against the Dem.

And as others have said, the libs can't lose this year, no matter who's elected.

Fern

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: Fern

Originally posted by: OrByte
BWAHAHA

the right couldn't STAAND McCain barely 8 months ago

what a joke.

Who says the "right" likes him now?

Some unknown authors give their opinion that McCain is more conservative than the right thinks and that means what exactly?

Get back to us when Rush & Hannity et al start calling him the "next Reagan".

Fern

Bingo.

 

[superstition]

Bingo.

We'll see...

People said McCain would never back Bush after Bush implied he was too crazy (due to torture) to become President in 2000.

While the Limbaughs of the world may not yet be promoting the "McCain as the true conservative/conservative savior" yet, the mythology is picking up steam.

 

[JD50]

Originally posted by: Dari

Originally posted by: JD50
HAHA, McCain a conservative. I guess when you're as liberal as the mainstream media is you'd think McCain really is a conservative...😉

I thought Ron Paul was the true conservative in the Republican lineup.

He was.

 

[ericlp]

I guess I could see a person liking McCain but liking both him and his side kick Joe? Sheesh....... That is gut wrenching...

Joe the "D" ... No wait, now he wants to be independent... Opps, Now he's an "R" I think he really just want to be where the "$" is!

Just as he lost with al gore lets hope he loses with mccain...

 

[superstition]

Speaking of Lieberman... He joined in the "Obama is a commie" thing:

NAPOLITANO: Hey Sen. Lieberman, you know Barack Obama, is he a Marxist as Bill Kristol says might be the case in today?s New York Times? Is he an elitist like your colleague Hillary Clinton says he is?

LIEBERMAN: Well, you know, I must say that?s a good question.

In his New York Times column today, Weekly Standard editor Bill Kristol claimed that Sen. Barack Obama?s (D-IL) now-infamous ?bitter? remarks sound like Karl Marx?s ?famous statement about religion.? On the Brian and the Judge radio show today, Fox News? senior judicial analyst Judge Andrew Napolitano asked Sen. Joe Lieberman (I-CT) if Obama is ?a Marxist as Bill Kristol says might be the case??

?I must say that?s a good question,? replied Lieberman

From "Now He's a Godless Commie"

Obama: "It?s not surprising then that they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren?t like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations."

Is this indistinguishable from saying, along with Marx, that all religion is an obviously false consciousness caused by the alienation of the world-historical class struggle? No, it obviously isn't. It's saying that economic distress does often in human history express itself in more rigid forms of religion, more reactionary cultural identification, less tolerance of "the other." Since large swathes of human history have shown this to be true - and perfectly arguable without any materialist understanding of religion - Kristol is deliberately distorting to paint Obama as a cynical manipulator of religious faith for political ends, rather than as a genuine Christian. He's calling him a lying, Godless communist.

You could argue, as Kristol and others hilariously will, that Lou Dobbs has no base,
that fundamentalist Christianism has no problem with "the other" in a globalized world, that dozens of state constitutional amendments banning civil marriages that had never and would never have taken place were just spirited forms of civic engagement, rather than scapegoating or politicking on resentment. You could also argue, as others legitimately will, that spasms of economic distress and social discontent are unconnected. Hey: Weimar had nothing to do with Hitler. But Kristol is doing something much more pernicious: he is saying that Obama is faking faith, that his very profession of faith is a "mask" that is slipping, and that Kristol is the person to determine whose faith is genuine and who is a fraud.

A non-Christian manipulator of Christianity is calling a Christian a liar about his own faith. That's where they've gone to already. And it's only the middle of April. What are they so scared of?

 

[Siddhartha]

I think most Republicans will be ralleying around McCain by July 2008. Is there anyone else that comes closer to the ideas of George W Bush's Republican party values?

Can any of you disgruntled and or anti-McCain Republicans see yourself voting for Mr Obama, Ms Clinton, or a third party like the Greens or Libertarians?

 

[piasabird]

If we cant secure our borders how can we secure Iraq's border? If it takes voting for a Democrat to end this unholy war, then that is what it takes.

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: Siddhartha
I think most Republicans will be ralleying around McCain by July 2008. Is there anyone else that comes closer to the ideas of George W Bush's Republican party values?

Can any of you disgruntled and or anti-McCain Republicans see yourself voting for Mr Obama, Ms Clinton, or a third party like the Greens or Libertarians?

Will Republicans rally around McCain? Sure, because the other choices are disastrous. That does NOT mean however that McCain is the "Great Conservative" or that Conservatives are in love with the guy.

 

[Genx87]

Originally posted by: ericlp
I guess I could see a person liking McCain but liking both him and his side kick Joe? Sheesh....... That is gut wrenching...

Joe the "D" ... No wait, now he wants to be independent... Opps, Now he's an "R" I think he really just want to be where the "$" is!

Just as he lost with al gore lets hope he loses with mccain...

Well i dont think Joe wanted to be an independent. That is on the democrats trying to force him out. Which forced him to be an independent and spank the puppet the democrats put on the ticket.

 

[ayabe]

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: Siddhartha
I think most Republicans will be ralleying around McCain by July 2008. Is there anyone else that comes closer to the ideas of George W Bush's Republican party values?

Can any of you disgruntled and or anti-McCain Republicans see yourself voting for Mr Obama, Ms Clinton, or a third party like the Greens or Libertarians?

Will Republicans rally around McCain? Sure, because the other choices are disastrous. That does NOT mean however that McCain is the "Great Conservative" or that Conservatives are in love with the guy.

yeah because doubling the Bush tax cuts and offering more corporate tax cuts isn't a disasterous policy.

Since things turned out so swimmingly well the first time, I say let's double down, :disgust:

McCain is gonna get smoked, you can write it down.

 

[Jebeelzabub]

Originally posted by: loki8481
republicans are kidding themselves if they think November is going to be anything other than a 50-state Obamacrat victory.

Hope is awakening in the hearts of Americans and even those small-town hicks in PA are learning to stop being afraid of Change and "people not like themselves."

Is this the sum total of your posting now? Sarcastic mocking of Obama?

 

[MagicConch]

If McCain can win & promises high spending / low taxing, there are many that would be more than pleased to label him a great conservative no matter where he stands on any issues.

Originally posted by: Siddhartha
I think most Republicans will be ralleying around McCain by July 2008. Is there anyone else that comes closer to the ideas of George W Bush's Republican party values?

Can any of you disgruntled and or anti-McCain Republicans see yourself voting for Mr Obama, Ms Clinton, or a third party like the Greens or Libertarians?

Interestingly enough, Ann Coulter said she would rather vote for Clinton over McCain.

 

[manowar821]

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: Siddhartha
I think most Republicans will be ralleying around McCain by July 2008. Is there anyone else that comes closer to the ideas of George W Bush's Republican party values?

Can any of you disgruntled and or anti-McCain Republicans see yourself voting for Mr Obama, Ms Clinton, or a third party like the Greens or Libertarians?

Will Republicans rally around McCain? Sure, because the other choices are disastrous. That does NOT mean however that McCain is the "Great Conservative" or that Conservatives are in love with the guy.

Nah, it just means that they're stupid partisans who will vote for their party no matter how much of a jerk the nominee is.

Two party politics only works if the people buy into it.

 

[Ldir]

Originally posted by: MagicConch
If McCain can win & promises high spending / low taxing, there are many that would be more than pleased to label him a great conservative no matter where he stands on any issues.

Originally posted by: Siddhartha
I think most Republicans will be ralleying around McCain by July 2008. Is there anyone else that comes closer to the ideas of George W Bush's Republican party values?

Can any of you disgruntled and or anti-McCain Republicans see yourself voting for Mr Obama, Ms Clinton, or a third party like the Greens or Libertarians?

Interestingly enough, Ann Coulter said she would rather vote for Clinton over McCain.

Hillary will be way better for Ann's hate peddling business.

 

[theeedude]

The more we water down what "conservative" means, the better for this country. In other countries, conservatives are for universal healthcare too 🙂

 

[ericlp]

Well, we all know who McCain wants to be running against. He certainly doesn't have anything bad to say about Hillary that is unless she gets nominated. He thinks (I agree) if Obama gets the nod, he will have a more difficult time in winning the president ticket.


Interesting that every time Obama gets in some sort of jam he always speaks up...

 

[Fern]

Originally posted by: ericlp
Well, we all know who McCain wants to be running against. He certainly doesn't have anything bad to say about Hillary that is unless she gets nominated. He thinks (I agree) if Obama gets the nod, he will have a more difficult time in winning the president ticket.


Interesting that every time Obama gets in some sort of jam he always speaks up...

He's gotta. Otherwise he'd be invisible. All the election news coverage is about Hillary & Obama.

Fern

 

[superstition]

Well i dont think Joe wanted to be an independent. That is on the democrats trying to force him out. Which forced him to be an independent and spank the puppet the democrats put on the ticket.

What a load.

 

[wetech]

Originally posted by: loki8481
Hope is awakening in the hearts of Americans and even those small-town hicks in PA are learning to stop being afraid of Change and "people not like themselves."

You're right, they need to be enlightened like all the big city folk. After all, there's no racial tension in cities, just in the boonies. :roll:

 

[superstition]

Romney reverses his take on McCain's economic credentials

Mitt Romney said Tuesday that Sen. John McCain's Washington experience counts in drawing up economic policy.

That's not what Romney said during the heat of the Republican presidential race.

Here's Romney from Tuesday's appearance on CNN:

"I can tell you that for a person who's spent over 25 years in Washington, D.C., working on economic policies from the days of (Ronald) Reagan and throughout the current time, Senator McCain is very well aware of the spending programs in Washington, which ones need to be cut back, which ones need to be grown. He understands also how to relieve the pressure on the American taxpayer," Romney said hours before McCain, a four-term Arizona senator, delivered an economic address in Pittsburgh.

Here's Romney on Jan. 25 in Florida:

"Now he's engaging in 'Washington talk,'" Romney said of McCain and his self-professed "straight-talk" mantra. "`Washington talk' says that somehow, because you've been in Washington, and you've been on a committee, that you somehow know about how the jobs of this country have been created."

Up is down. Left is right. Black is white.

 

[CallMeJoe]

Originally posted by: superstition
...Up is down. Left is right. Black is white.

Romney wants to be VP. Like GHW Bush before him (remember Voodoo Economics?) he will gladly betray any stand he took and shed any shred of dignity he may have had to be "a heartbeat away from the presidency" - especially with a president as old as J McC would be.

 

[Genx87]

Originally posted by: superstition
Romney reverses his take on McCain's economic credentials

Mitt Romney said Tuesday that Sen. John McCain's Washington experience counts in drawing up economic policy.

That's not what Romney said during the heat of the Republican presidential race.

Here's Romney from Tuesday's appearance on CNN:

"I can tell you that for a person who's spent over 25 years in Washington, D.C., working on economic policies from the days of (Ronald) Reagan and throughout the current time, Senator McCain is very well aware of the spending programs in Washington, which ones need to be cut back, which ones need to be grown. He understands also how to relieve the pressure on the American taxpayer," Romney said hours before McCain, a four-term Arizona senator, delivered an economic address in Pittsburgh.

Here's Romney on Jan. 25 in Florida:

"Now he's engaging in 'Washington talk,'" Romney said of McCain and his self-professed "straight-talk" mantra. "`Washington talk' says that somehow, because you've been in Washington, and you've been on a committee, that you somehow know about how the jobs of this country have been created."

Up is down. Left is right. Black is white.

*newsflash July 08*Hillary conceding democratic nomination reverses stances about Obama she took during the nomination process and endorses him for president
*newsflash*

 

[hellokeith]

Originally posted by: bamacre
There's nothing conservative about spending 100 years in Iraq. There was nothing conservative about going there in the first place, and he can't even admit it was a mistake.

There is nothing conservative about the US attacking the Germans in WWII. And many more American lives were lost in Europe.

 

[CallMeJoe]

Originally posted by: hellokeith
There is nothing conservative about the US attacking the Germans in WWII. And many more American lives were lost in Europe.

??? This crap again? What's not conservative about prosecuting war against a sovereign nation that has formally declared war on you?