McCain the "Great Conservative"

[superstition]

McCain more conservative than his independent label portrays

Mr. Conservative

"John McCain hasn?t betrayed conservatism; his party has."

And on and on and on.

This "McCain is the fountainhead of conservatism" mythology is gaining steam and is really amusing. It also shows how worthless the term is, as well as the liberal-conservative that has so blinded American political discourse.

First, McCain wasn't conservative enough, wasn't a real conservative, according to people like Limbaugh, many other Romney supports, many fundamentalist Christians, et cetera. Now that he's the nominee, he's been branded as the true savior of conservatism. The Reagan deification process is already beginning and he's not even dead.

Some relevant topics:

The Liberal-Conservative Dichotomy is illusion
The myth of Republican fiscal conservatism

 

[Moonbeam]

The American people will vote as they want. They will vote out of sickness or they will vote out of health. The media will dance with their feelings. It is very hard to awaken.

 

[superstition]

Originally posted by: Moonbeam
The American people will vote as they want. They will vote out of sickness or they will vote out of health. The media will dance with their feelings. It is very hard to awaken.

I didn't order Chinese take-out.

 

[bamacre]

There's nothing conservative about spending 100 years in Iraq. There was nothing conservative about going there in the first place, and he can't even admit it was a mistake.

 

[Moonbeam]

Originally posted by: superstition

Originally posted by: Moonbeam
The American people will vote as they want. They will vote out of sickness or they will vote out of health. The media will dance with their feelings. It is very hard to awaken.

I didn't order Chinese take-out.

I didn't ask to be Confucius.

 

[JD50]

HAHA, McCain a conservative. I guess when you're as liberal as the mainstream media is you'd think McCain really is a conservative...

 

[nageov3t]

republicans are kidding themselves if they think November is going to be anything other than a 50-state Obamacrat victory.

Hope is awakening in the hearts of Americans and even those small-town hicks in PA are learning to stop being afraid of Change and "people not like themselves."

 

[Fern]

Originally posted by: superstition
McCain more conservative than his independent label portrays

Mr. Conservative

"John McCain hasn?t betrayed conservatism; his party has."

And on and on and on.

This "McCain is the fountainhead of conservatism" mythology is gaining steam and is really amusing. It also shows how worthless the term is, as well as the liberal-conservative that has so blinded American political discourse.

First, McCain wasn't conservative enough, wasn't a real conservative, according to people like Limbaugh, many other Romney supports, many fundamentalist Christians, et cetera. Now that he's the nominee, he's been branded as the true savior of conservatism. The Reagan deification process is already beginning and he's not even dead.

Some relevant topics:

The Liberal-Conservative Dichotomy is illusion
The myth of Republican fiscal conservatism

Your point might have merit if the authors of these pieces were well-known conservatives (Krauthamer, Brooks etc).

I don't recognize either of them. As far as I'm concerned this "McCain is a real & staunch Conservative!" stuff might just be an effort to discourage independants from voting for him by lefty authors who, of course, see him as very conservative from their perspective.

Fern

 

[Jaskalas]

Originally posted by: bamacre
There's nothing conservative about spending 100 years in Iraq. There was nothing conservative about going there in the first place, and he can't even admit it was a mistake.

Everything about McCain screams Neocon, not conservative. His nomination in the wake of GWB only continues to prove conservatives no longer have a political party.

 

[superstition]

So is "neocon" the term for "conservative I don't agree with"?

 

[Moonbeam]

Originally posted by: superstition
So is "neocon" the term for "conservative I don't agree with"?

Yes, Grasshopper.

 

[bamacre]

Originally posted by: superstition
So is "neocon" the term for "conservative I don't agree with"?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neoconservatism

Neo-conservatism is not new, and not conservative.

 

[Jaskalas]

Originally posted by: superstition
So is "neocon" the term for "conservative I don't agree with"?

Pro government conservative. Big on security. The authoritarian anti-thesis to our constitution and our liberty. Yes, I find I don?t agree with that model of conservative.

 

[Genx87]

So what you are saying when all of the crybaby Billary supporters vote Obama this fall politics is a "team" sport? Color me surprised!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[AndrewR]

Originally posted by: superstition

Originally posted by: Moonbeam
The American people will vote as they want. They will vote out of sickness or they will vote out of health. The media will dance with their feelings. It is very hard to awaken.

I didn't order Chinese take-out.

LOL!!

 

[StageLeft]

Uphill battle for Mr McCain. The repugs really have their work cut out for them with this one. Has anybody else noticed that his response to questions is always cute little jokes? I mean, ALWAYS. I don't think he is capable of anything but little jokes. He's likeable but quite useless.

 

[Atreus21]

Originally posted by: loki8481
republicans are kidding themselves if they think November is going to be anything other than a 50-state Obamacrat victory.

Hope is awakening in the hearts of Americans and even those small-town hicks in PA are learning to stop being afraid of Change and "people not like themselves."

A 50 state victory?

Hmm. I think I'd like to make a bet with you.

 

[Atreus21]

Originally posted by: bamacre

Originally posted by: superstition
So is "neocon" the term for "conservative I don't agree with"?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neoconservatism

Neo-conservatism is not new, and not conservative.

Nor is modern liberalism modern or liberal.

 

[bamacre]

Originally posted by: Atreus21

Originally posted by: bamacre

Originally posted by: superstition
So is "neocon" the term for "conservative I don't agree with"?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neoconservatism

Neo-conservatism is not new, and not conservative.

Nor is modern liberalism modern or liberal.

I agree with that, too.

 

[Jaskalas]

Originally posted by: bamacre

Originally posted by: Atreus21

Originally posted by: bamacre

Originally posted by: superstition
So is "neocon" the term for "conservative I don't agree with"?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neoconservatism

Neo-conservatism is not new, and not conservative.

Nor is modern liberalism modern or liberal.

I agree with that, too.

We need to form a new party to counter balance the merging of the government interests that have tainted both R and D.

 

[OrByte]

BWAHAHA

the right couldn't STAAND McCain barely 8 months ago

what a joke.

 

[Dari]

Originally posted by: JD50
HAHA, McCain a conservative. I guess when you're as liberal as the mainstream media is you'd think McCain really is a conservative...

I thought Ron Paul was the true conservative in the Republican lineup.

 

[CallMeJoe]

Originally posted by: Dari
I thought Ron Paul was the true conservative in the Republican lineup.

The Republican hierarchy considered RP the crazy uncle you only tolerate because he has the same last name, and shuffle off out-of-sight at the first opportunity (Constitutional governance! Whoever heard such a thing!). Mike Huckabee/Mitt Romney/Fred Thompson/Mitt Romney/Mike Huckabee (in that approximate order) was the true Conservative savior.

 

[Fern]

Originally posted by: OrByte
BWAHAHA

the right couldn't STAAND McCain barely 8 months ago

what a joke.

Who says the "right" likes him now?

Some unknown authors give their opinion that McCain is more conservative than the right thinks and that means what exactly?

Get back to us when Rush & Hannity et al start calling him the "next Reagan".

Fern

 

[OrByte]

Originally posted by: Fern

Originally posted by: OrByte
BWAHAHA

the right couldn't STAAND McCain barely 8 months ago

what a joke.

Who says the "right" likes him now?

Some unknown authors give their opinion that McCain is more conservative than the right thinks and that means what exactly?

Get back to us when Rush & Hannity et al start calling him the "next Reagan".

Fern

OH..ok...

so the "right" doesn't like their candidate then...