McCain supporting Al Qaeda?

[NoStateofMind]

McCain being one of the neo-conservatives who supported Bush throughout his term and supported illegal actions taken by that administration now endorses the enemy.

Does McCain support Al Qaeda? {video on page for those who don't want to read)

Jack Hunter brings it together:

During the 2008 election, Republican presidential candidate Ron Paul said that our constant military intervention in the Arab world was the primary motivation behind terrorist acts like 9/11. Why did Paul say this? Because Osama Bin Laden said it. Because the 9/11 Commission report said it. Because CIA intelligence said it, even inventing the term “blowback” precisely to describe it. Yet, when Paul explained this, fellow candidate and eventual Republican nominee John McCain excoriated the Texas congressman and suggested that he was indirectly giving aid and comfort to the enemy, Al-Qaeda.
Yet last week, McCain gave aid and comfort to the enemy. Directly.
Yes, it seems that the man who once ran for president portraying himself as being “tough” on terrorists now supports Al-Qaeda. This is not a joke.
The literal truth of this proposition, which admittedly seems outlandish on its face, hinges upon the question of whether the people McCain now explicitly supports are indeed Al-Qaeda. Consider the following.
When McCain flew to Libya last week to give his support to rebel leaders fighting against the Gaddafi regime, the Senator said: “I have met with these brave fighters, and they are not Al-Qaeda… To the contrary: They are Libyan patriots who want to liberate their nation. We should help them do it.”
McCain met with Libyan rebel leaders and concluded that they are not Al-Qaeda. But there remains a problem. Who is saying that these people are Al-Qaeda? Libyan rebel leaders.
Admitting to having received support from Al-Qaeda, the UK Telegraph reported of Libyan rebel leader Abdel-Hakim al-Hasidi last month: “Mr al-Hasidi insisted his fighters ‘are patriots and good Muslims, not terrorists,’ but added that the ‘members of al-Qaeda are also good Muslims and are fighting against the invader.”If it is true that Mr. McCain has a better grasp on who-is and who-is-not Al-Qaeda than Libyan rebel leaders, then the Senator is innocent in his new alliance. But if it is true that Libyan rebel leaders have a better grasp of who makes up their ranks than an Arizona senator: John McCain supports Al-Qaeda.

Libyan rebel commander admits his fighters have al-Qaeda links

Abdel-Hakim al-Hasidi, the Libyan rebel leader, has said jihadists who fought against allied troops in Iraq are on the front lines of the battle against Muammar Gaddafi's regime.
In an interview with the Italian newspaper Il Sole 24 Ore, Mr al-Hasidi admitted that he had recruited "around 25" men from the Derna area in eastern Libya to fight against coalition troops in Iraq. Some of them, he said, are "today are on the front lines in Adjabiya"

A couple of questions need to be answered here.

Why is this "Al Qaeda recruiter" not in some sort of jail?
Why was he released in 2008?
Why are we now supporting that which we have waged war against for the better part of 10 years?


Not to mention McCain is piece of trash and a traitor IMO for introducing this legislation.

I guess we are just fools being played like the strings of a guitar. This should be headlines on all MSM networks. But guess what? It won't and thats a tragedy.

 

[Lemon law]

No one ever accused McCain of being a deep and strategic thinker, he shoots from his gut
and seemingly has no overall vision.

In terms of Libyan Rebels in future siding with Al-Quida, at least in MHO, Al-Quida will be the winner only if Qaddafi wins.

 

[cubby1223]

Stop reading blogs.

 

[NoStateofMind]

Stop reading blogs.

Stop trolling.

 

[wuliheron]

My enemy's enemy is my best friend. Its not just an Arab value, its Christian family value!

 

[jackschmittusa]

When McCain met Gaddafi a couple of years ago, he commented that Gaddafi was an interesting man. He shook his hand, smiled for the photo op, and seemed perfectly at home chatting him up on his "ranch" in Libya.

Looks like he has now dropped him as fast as he did the "no torture" position he had way back when.

 

[sMiLeYz]

I don't think McCain is actually supporting Al Qaeda, the guy is a little cranky senior citizen going senile.

It's safe to say that the lines are often blurred between rebel groups in the middle east and Al Qaeda. After all, the US did assist the taliban in ousting the Russians in the 1980's, now they are the enemy.

That's why I think Obama is doing the right thing in treading lightly in the situation in Libya, who knows if what we do will come and bite us back or if we do nothing... tens of thousands of people will be slaughtered ruthlessly?

 

[Genx87]

So the question becomes. Why is NATO(U.S.) flying sorties for AQ in Libya? Might help explain why Libya is a back page story for the past month. Once it was revealed we really dont know who we are supporting over there.

 

[Fear No Evil]

So the question becomes. Why is NATO(U.S.) flying sorties for AQ in Libya? Might help explain why Libya is a back page story for the past month. Once it was revealed we really dont know who we are supporting over there.

So Obama is supporting AQ?

 

[FoBoT]

mccain is a progressive, no surprise

 

[ProfJohn]

Shouldn't the thread title be "Obama supporting Al Qaeda?"

 

[cubby1223]

Stop trolling.

I wasn't the one who made the highly partisan thread.

Looks like the forum sees things more along my lines than yours.


From urbandictionary.com:

Troll:
One who posts a deliberately provocative message to a newsgroup or message board with the intention of causing maximum disruption and argument


Fits your message much, much, much more than it fits my message. I could have rephrased myself and said "I disagree with your analysis of the McCain/Al Qaeda situation" but I figured I'd skip that and go right to the source of the discussion.

 

[NoStateofMind]

I wasn't the one who made the highly partisan thread.

Looks like the forum sees things more along my lines than yours.


From urbandictionary.com:

Troll:
One who posts a deliberately provocative message to a newsgroup or message board with the intention of causing maximum disruption and argument


Fits your message much, much, much more than it fits my message. I could have rephrased myself and said "I disagree with your analysis of the McCain/Al Qaeda situation" but I figured I'd skip that and get right to the meat of the discussion.

You came here to disrupt this thread not to discuss it. Now move on so a discussion can be had.

Troll

In Internet slang, a troll is someone who posts inflammatory, extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community, such as an online discussion forum, chat room, or blog, with the primary intent of provoking other users into a desired emotional response[2] or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion.[

 

[NoStateofMind]

Shouldn't the thread title be "Obama supporting Al Qaeda?"

Yep, could say that too.

 

[IGBT]

mcCain is living proof that even someone with senile dementia can get elected to public office.

 

[cganesh75]

My enemy's enemy is my best friend. Its not just an Arab value, its Christian family value!

how did that work out with taliban?

 

[Macamus Prime]

Even if he wasn't old, he would still say what he said.

McCain is a scumbag. He left his 1st wife because she was disfigured after a car accident; http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1024927/The-wife-John-McCain-callously-left-behind.html

 

[piasabird]

McCain is a has-been idiot that is too old to hold office.

McCain is a good example of why we need term limits in Congress.

 

[Anarchist420]

I agree with Jack Hunter and the OP. I'll take it a step further--McCain knows that Al-qaida either indirectly or directly was created by the CIA. It's obvious that McAnus doesn't support the occupation of the Middle East because of "national security". He's smarter than that.

 

[wuliheron]

how did that work out with taliban?

The usual Hatfields and McCoys hillbilly feud kind of thing. Endless fighting, then you kiss and makeup and then fight some more. That's how people get to know each other silly.

 

[werepossum]

Since I support Obama in Libya, obviously I also support McCain, even knowing that al-Qaeda is one of the groups wanting Qadaffi out of power. I think all people deserve to be free to select their own leadership. If that leadership then does something that makes us attack them, at least the populace was responsible for putting them into power rather than suffering for something over which they have no control.

 

[Genx87]

Since I support Obama in Libya, obviously I also support McCain, even knowing that al-Qaeda is one of the groups wanting Qadaffi out of power. I think all people deserve to be free to select their own leadership. If that leadership then does something that makes us attack them, at least the populace was responsible for putting them into power rather than suffering for something over which they have no control.

But they arent responsible for putting these people into power. NATO and the United States will be responsible for putting AQ into power in Libya. Think about that for a second. It is like we cant put the knife to our own throat fast enough in this country. It boggles the mind to think about what could happen in Libya using our military and resources.

 

[JTsyo]

Seems more like he supports the rebel, while Al Qaeda also supports them. Other than the core group I don't think AQ has membership card or such. Probably everyone in the ME is only 1 or 2 degree separated from AQ. the US has definitely overblown AQ to scare up support for operations in the ME. It's not like Osama is Cobra Commander with an elite terrorist army at his command.

 

[Red Dawn]

But they arent responsible for putting these people into power. NATO and the United States will be responsible for putting AQ into power in Libya. Think about that for a second. It is like we cant put the knife to our own throat fast enough in this country. It boggles the mind to think about what could happen in Libya using our military and resources.

Could be worse, could be arming and training them like Reagan Did. Of course Reagan was a lot friendlier with Terrorists when he was't running from them.

 

[werepossum]

But they arent responsible for putting these people into power. NATO and the United States will be responsible for putting AQ into power in Libya. Think about that for a second. It is like we cant put the knife to our own throat fast enough in this country. It boggles the mind to think about what could happen in Libya using our military and resources.

Assuming Libya gets open elections, the Libyan people will be responsible IF AQ gains power. We (NATO and USA) will merely be responsible for giving them the rope to flog us and hang themselves. Freedom is good, even if some of the things done with it are bad.