McCain getting slammed by his own party members

[Juddog]

Something I noticed that was pretty odd about this election is that many of the GOP themselves are starting to turn against McCain.

McCain gets criticism from his own party

Does anybody else find this odd? I mean these guys aren't just "liberal media", they are true-blood conservatives. I think this further shows how McCain and lately some of the republican party has strayed away from values they used to hold in the Reagan era 20 - 30 years ago.

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[Don Vito Corleone]

He really is running a very poor campaign - the word "erratic" seems most accurate. It's hard to imagine what it might take for him to reel this one back in.

 

[Red Dawn]

They guy can't even run a coherent campaign, you think he's capable of running the country?

 

[Genx87]

Originally posted by: Don Vito Corleone
He really is running a very poor campaign - the word "erratic" seems most accurate. It's hard to imagine what it might take for him to reel this one back in.

Pretty much, he is going in all directions now.

 

[Fingolfin269]

A lot of the GOP have never been in line with McCain so this does not surprise me.

 

[Robor]

Well, he may be behind but at least he's sticking to his promise of running a clean campaign based on issues instead of going negative.

 

[Dari]

Maverick

 

[Dari]

Iceman

 

[Dari]

Goose

 

[Mani]

The republican party is in pretty bad shape. It's divided, factionalized, and somehow all factions have been dumping on McCain. I thought for sure this election would turn out a nailbiter but it's looking more and more like it's headed towards a landslide.

 

[StageLeft]

"It's a stupid campaign, it's really become a pathetic campaign." haha

It is erratic, from choosing Palin based on a dream he had to suspending his campaign, then talking about them doing the debate in place of the VP one, to campaign back, to that mortgage plan he thought of on the way into the debate auditorium, it is a complete mess, he is reaching desperately for anything to turn the tide.

 

[TraumaRN]

Originally posted by: Skoorb
"It's a stupid campaign, it's really become a pathetic campaign." haha

It is erratic, from choosing Palin based on a dream he had to suspending his campaign, then talking about them doing the debate in place of the VP one, to campaign back, to that mortgage plan he thought of on the way into the debate auditorium, it is a complete mess, he is reaching desperately for anything to turn the tide.

John McCain is, was, and still is his own worst enemy. But his failure to unite his own party back in May/June while Obama/Clinton were tearing each other to pieces is where he really failed. At this point I think he can make it closer but I still think come election day Obama will come out ahead.

 

[Lemon law]

Originally posted by: Fingolfin269
A lot of the GOP have never been in line with McCain so this does not surprise me.

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Thus far, the Fingolfin269 post best partly sums it up. But this whole collective set of clueless bastard McCain critics totally miss the point. Its almost like we are looking at the marketing department for the US auto industry running on their long past record. And pretending they are selling a superior product engineered to meet new times long after its clear to everyone that their products are anything but able to meet the current needs.

But these people are marketing people, and it never occurs to them that they should have been screaming at the engineering department years ago, and saying give me a superior product because marketing can only do so much.

But these clueless McCain critics never went to the GOP leadership and said, truth be told, GWB policies are flopping in the real world, and therefore you boys in engineering better start doing better engineering, and instead are saying McCain's out of sync lips prevent us from applying enough lipstick to sell the pig.

Worse yet, they miss the one consistent message of the 2008 Presidential primaries, these same critics had a plethora of other GOP turkeys they were pushing, turkey maybe more amenable to those same lip stick applicators,
and the very GOP electorate firmly rejected them and choose McCain because he was the best of a very bad lot. And when those critics are now out of touch with the GOP electorate base, they have quite clearly lost all connections with reality.

The message is, GWB&co is what is pulling down McCain, and even though McCain is much better than GWB, he is too little too late. And no amounts of GOP marketing genius's can sell an inferior product now after the epic failure of the GWB years.

And the total future trainwreck is yet to come. Its now almost certain that the GOP
will get clobbered in the election of 11/08. And if that happens, what is left of the GOP is going to have to rebuild itself from the ashes on up. I hope, for the sake of the GOP and the country, the GOP does not decide their mistake was not in being exactly like GWB. But if they turn to these idiot McCain critics, that is the message they will give to the GOP.

 

[DAPUNISHER]

Originally posted by: Mani
The republican party is in pretty bad shape. It's divided, factionalized, and somehow all factions have been dumping on McCain. I thought for sure this election would turn out a nailbiter but it's looking more and more like it's headed towards a landslide.

It has been a "give the other guys a chance" atmosphere since before the '06 elections. Reps lost a few seats considered to be shoe-ins too. The financial crisis, is likely the proverbial straw that broke the camel's back.

The next 4 years will be role reversal, the dems defending the administration, while the reps have their turn to "whine". Hell, the whining from some has already started, and the election has even taken place yet.

 

[Hugh H]

Back in 2004, a Republican once said that the worst thing that could happen to the Republican Party was for George Bush to win the election... because it would later alter the electorate map to favor the Democratic Party for years to come. I think he was right.

 

[TheSlamma]

Maybe they are using this as a tool to try to prove he's a maverick. Even though everyone knows he is not.

 

[Corbett]

Originally posted by: Juddog
Something I noticed that was pretty odd about this election is that many of the GOP themselves are starting to turn against McCain.

McCain gets criticism from his own party

Does anybody else find this odd? I mean these guys aren't just "liberal media", they are true-blood conservatives. I think this further shows how McCain and lately some of the republican party has strayed away from values they used to hold in the Reagan era 20 - 30 years ago.

Can you think for yourself or are you just going to continue to steal headlines from Digg?

 

[351Cleveland]

Originally posted by: Juddog
Something I noticed that was pretty odd about this election is that many of the GOP themselves are starting to turn against McCain.

McCain gets criticism from his own party

Does anybody else find this odd? I mean these guys aren't just "liberal media", they are true-blood conservatives. I think this further shows how McCain and lately some of the republican party has strayed away from values they used to hold in the Reagan era 20 - 30 years ago.

No. True conservatives dont like him (politically). He sucks. You are just now figuring this out?

In other breaking news, monkeys throw poo at each other.

 

[Specop 007]

Originally posted by: Fingolfin269
A lot of the GOP have never been in line with McCain so this does not surprise me.

Thats a home run. A lot of people were thinking WFBBQ when McCain was first announced. And many of those got in line because, well, thats all they had to get in line with.

 

[Juddog]

Originally posted by: Corbett

Originally posted by: Juddog
Something I noticed that was pretty odd about this election is that many of the GOP themselves are starting to turn against McCain.

McCain gets criticism from his own party

Does anybody else find this odd? I mean these guys aren't just "liberal media", they are true-blood conservatives. I think this further shows how McCain and lately some of the republican party has strayed away from values they used to hold in the Reagan era 20 - 30 years ago.

Can you think for yourself or are you just going to continue to steal headlines from Digg?

Oh noes I posted something which was made popular on Digg 15 minutes after my post (digg "made popular" at 8:01 AM, my post at was at 7:43 AM) :roll:

Has your trolling gotten so bad that the only reason you find to criticize a post is that it got bumped up on Digg after I already posted? :laugh:

 

[DAPUNISHER]

Originally posted by: Specop 007

Originally posted by: Fingolfin269
A lot of the GOP have never been in line with McCain so this does not surprise me.

Thats a home run. A lot of people were thinking WFBBQ when McCain was first announced. And many of those got in line because, well, thats all they had to get in line with.

Wouldn't Romney's business savy and experience be a huge plus for the reps right now? Even if he was just the V.P. on the ticket? The LDS thing, might alienate the evangelical part of the base, but you'd have pulled in a bunch of voters lately, IMO. They all flip-flop, they all have skeletons, but right about now, his pedigree with handling financial difficulties would be damned attractive to some non partisan voters like myself.

 

[Don Vito Corleone]

Originally posted by: DAPUNISHER

Originally posted by: Specop 007

Thats a home run. A lot of people were thinking WFBBQ when McCain was first announced. And many of those got in line because, well, thats all they had to get in line with.

Wouldn't Romney's business savy and experience be a huge plus for the reps right now? Even if he was just the V.P. on the ticket? The LDS thing, might alienate the evangelical part of the base, but you'd have pulled in a bunch of voters lately, IMO. They all flip-flop, they all have skeletons, but right about now, his pedigree with handling financial difficulties would be damned attractive to some non partisan voters like myself.

It seems clear McCain openly dislikes Romney, so was disinclined to pick him. The Palin selection was a cynical ploy to try to attract disenchanted Clinton voters - in retrospect it seems amazingly stupid IMO.

 

[Corbett]

Originally posted by: Juddog

Originally posted by: Corbett

Originally posted by: Juddog
Something I noticed that was pretty odd about this election is that many of the GOP themselves are starting to turn against McCain.

McCain gets criticism from his own party

Does anybody else find this odd? I mean these guys aren't just "liberal media", they are true-blood conservatives. I think this further shows how McCain and lately some of the republican party has strayed away from values they used to hold in the Reagan era 20 - 30 years ago.

Can you think for yourself or are you just going to continue to steal headlines from Digg?

Oh noes I posted something which was made popular on Digg 15 minutes after my post (digg "made popular" at 8:01 AM, my post at was at 7:43 AM) :roll:

Has your trolling gotten so bad that the only reason you find to criticize a post is that it got bumped up on Digg after I already posted? :laugh:

Posted : 1 day 7 hr ago

http://digg.com/2008_us_electi...g_Off_Good_Ship_McCain

It may have been "made popular" after you posted this but it was obviously posted yesterday, which makes you just an echo chamber for the liberal morons over at Digg.

 

[Juddog]

Originally posted by: Corbett

Originally posted by: Juddog

Originally posted by: Corbett

Originally posted by: Juddog
Something I noticed that was pretty odd about this election is that many of the GOP themselves are starting to turn against McCain.

McCain gets criticism from his own party

Does anybody else find this odd? I mean these guys aren't just "liberal media", they are true-blood conservatives. I think this further shows how McCain and lately some of the republican party has strayed away from values they used to hold in the Reagan era 20 - 30 years ago.

Can you think for yourself or are you just going to continue to steal headlines from Digg?

Oh noes I posted something which was made popular on Digg 15 minutes after my post (digg "made popular" at 8:01 AM, my post at was at 7:43 AM) :roll:

Has your trolling gotten so bad that the only reason you find to criticize a post is that it got bumped up on Digg after I already posted? :laugh:

Posted : 1 day 7 hr ago

http://digg.com/2008_us_electi...g_Off_Good_Ship_McCain

It may have been "made popular" after you posted this but it was obviously posted yesterday, which makes you just an echo chamber for the liberal morons over at Digg.

First of all, I missed the Digg article, and second, this is Anandtech, not Digg. I don't scan Digg for articles before coming to Anandtech, and haven't even looked at Digg in the past week until you mentioned the video being posted on there. Try to debate the actual point instead of flaming because the video was posted on an unrelated site.

 

[DAPUNISHER]

Originally posted by: Don Vito Corleone


It seems clear McCain openly dislikes Romney, so was disinclined to pick him. The Palin selection was a cynical ploy to try to attract disenchanted Clinton voters - in retrospect it seems amazingly stupid IMO.

Definitely. They should never have pandered to the evangelicals and upset Hillary supporters, by choosing Palin. That didn't feel like a Rove tactic, but rather something concocted by Mac's own gang. I could be wrong though, Rove is brilliant, and knows the next 4 years are going to be a tough row to hoe. The dems fail to make enough progress, and the next golden boy/girl can be promoted.

Hillary supporters that upset, were planning to punish the dems anyways. And here in Fl. it is compounded by their votes being discarded. There was no need to pander.