Mayor comes under fire for sent e-mail with watermelons at White House

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Fern

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Originally posted by: ElFenix
Originally posted by: TheSlamma
Originally posted by: NFS4
Originally posted by: PingSpike
I never understood this stereotype...don't most people like watermelons? And fried chicken? If you fried a rabbit turd it would taste good. Everyone likes fried chicken.

I don't know how the watermelon thing started, but the fried chicken part (IIRC) came from the fact that slaves would fry it so it would stay edible longer without spoiling.

Don't know if that's true or not...
Same way as chitterlings, pigs feet, okra and collard greens.

Cheap food in the south, slave owners didn't want to spend much money on their slaves and after they were freed they continued to eat cheap foods since they were still poor. So they ate foods that were easy to grow or keep for long periods of time as you mentioned or parts of animals most people threw away.

considering how poor the south was in general i'm going to guess most people in the south ate those foods. besides, okra, greens and fried chicken are good eats.

Nope (at least not exactly),

People in agarian communities have always tried hard not to waste any parts of their animals or crops.

My maternal grandfather grew up on a farm in PA, they butchered the meat themselves and used the less marketable parts in their food- scarpple and punhoss (sp?) are two examples.

Likewise in France, it is very much frowned upon to waste any part of an animal.

It is also just flat out stupid for business purposes. If you watch shows such as "Last Restaurant Standing" you'd have seen one of the world's richest restrauranters speak to the contestants about the importance of waste. These less-than-popular portions of the animal will account for 30% of your profits.

It's also considered disrespectable to the slain animal to waste parts of it.

Fern
 

Zebo

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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Zebo
Originally posted by: Robor
Originally posted by: winnar111
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: winnar111
The watermelons must be for Michelle.

Why's that?

Well, she's not 50/50 like Zero, and with all the weight she has, probably could use some healthy food.

Hips don't lie.

Yeah, she's real fat for a middle aged woman with 2 kids. You do realize not everyone has a perfect model/swimmer build?

Yes unfortunately:(...GAWD I wish I were 21 again especially with this 'girls gone wild' generation out there.:evil:
What makes you think you'd fare any better than the first time you were 21?

Hehe long as I had same apartment overlooking avila beach again they need to cool off sometime.:p Bribes baby bribes beers shower money whatever just take me back!
 

piasabird

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You can add that to all the White Redneck, Southern, and Christian Evangalist Jokes. Grow up and get with it. You are not in the only group people make jokes about.

At least you are not living in chocolate town (Silly Mayor from Louisiana).

When the Networks asked whether a Mormon could be president, did you complain? Talk about your Religious hate groups, just look at the media!
 

microbial

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Originally posted by: Ocguy31
Originally posted by: SirStev0
Originally posted by: microbial
Originally posted by: Ocguy31
Originally posted by: microbial
Hard to see what some people look like under their white hood and robe.

Racist

Clearly not racist (based on my post).

Moreso prejudiced against Ku Klux Klan (KKK) members and other domestic militant organizations in the United States advocating white supremacy while hidden behind conical hats, masks and white robes (and nowadays internet forums) in order to keep secret from their communities their true feelings of hate for no substantive reason at all.

Race of course does not exist as defined vis-a-vis a scientific concept within Homo sapiens. 1 cosmopolitan species only. Race division is completely invalid scientifically with regards to humans.


Don't be defensive.. he was lurking around this thread looking for anything even remotely close to criticizing white people so he could snipe that poster with a RACIST!

You had the closest and it was getting late in the thread so he had to blow his load even if it made absolutely no sense.

From his comments thus far, I truly don't believe OC is a racist person (unlike that troll winnar), he is just one of the many conservatives convinced that he is under attack by minorities trying to get their mule and acre from him.

Though I think most who fall into this category are easily lead on and occasionally childish, I don't think they are necessarily bad people. Most are pretty hard working and dedicated to doing good and most probably had to sacrifice and do a lot to get where they are. In doing so they have gained a certain amount of bitterness to everyone around them both above and below. They don't understand why all their hard work didn't warrant them more power, money, respect, etc.
They idolize those born with a silver spoon and therefore join their cult of conservatism. They also look down on those below them as people who didn't work as hard as they did. They have been convinced that now that a Black person has been able to achieve so much that other "lower" people will now be chomping at the bit for their position. They look at the system and see that many steps have been placed in to help minorities take advantage of opportunities and start to wonder where their "side steps" had been while they climbed up the mountain.

It isn't racism, it is jealousy, which turns into racism when fed by that "conservative" propaganda. They hate when someone gets to take an easier path, unless that someone is their idol and what they truly want to be.

EDIT: Also I love Fried Chicken and Watermelon. Anyone who doesn't is an idiot.

Some of you really need to lighten up! It is a common thing in other forums to say "racist" when it makes absolutely no sense, in order to make fun of the people who cry "racist" at things that can only be percieved as racist if you are really looking for it.

Yikes!

As far as this:

Originally posted by: SirStev0
They don't understand why all their hard work didn't warrant them more power, money, respect, etc.

I work very hard and am rewarded very nicely for it. ;)

You know what they say about assumptions?

Well, from where I'm standing it looks like the racist subtext in our society and AT postings has significantly increased since Nov. 4, 2008.

I'm thinking lots more whack-jobs running loose, showing their true colors (no pun intended) since the election.

Now I'm not the kind of person that makes watermellon jokes or defends people (mayors or otherwise) that make watermellon jokes.

Instinctively makes me think it's an a-hole thing to do. I just call them how I see them.

If that makes me defensive...I'm good with that.


 

dahunan

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Originally posted by: piasabird
You can add that to all the White Redneck, Southern, and Christian Evangalist Jokes. Grow up and get with it. You are not in the only group people make jokes about.

At least you are not living in chocolate town (Silly Mayor from Louisiana).

When the Networks asked whether a Mormon could be president, did you complain? Talk about your Religious hate groups, just look at the media!

Race != Group

White Redneck, Southern Evangelicals... WERE The ones enslaving and raping and hanging this "group" as you call it.
 

OCGuy

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Originally posted by: dahunan
Originally posted by: piasabird
You can add that to all the White Redneck, Southern, and Christian Evangalist Jokes. Grow up and get with it. You are not in the only group people make jokes about.

At least you are not living in chocolate town (Silly Mayor from Louisiana).

When the Networks asked whether a Mormon could be president, did you complain? Talk about your Religious hate groups, just look at the media!

Race != Group

White Redneck, Southern Evangelicals... WERE The ones enslaving and raping and hanging this "group" as you call it.


Wow...

Just...wow.
 

miketheidiot

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Originally posted by: Ocguy31
Originally posted by: dahunan
Originally posted by: piasabird
You can add that to all the White Redneck, Southern, and Christian Evangalist Jokes. Grow up and get with it. You are not in the only group people make jokes about.

At least you are not living in chocolate town (Silly Mayor from Louisiana).

When the Networks asked whether a Mormon could be president, did you complain? Talk about your Religious hate groups, just look at the media!

Race != Group

White Redneck, Southern Evangelicals... WERE The ones enslaving and raping and hanging this "group" as you call it.


Wow...

Just...wow.

whats wrong with that statement?

 

JEDIYoda

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That Mayor is so stoopid to actually think that people will believe him when he says he didn`t know the association that Black people have with watermelons!!
 

eternalone

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Racism in america is getting out of hand seriously so many racist people nowadays on TV on the radio and on the internet it makes me sick.
 

dawp

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Originally posted by: Mursilis


You really think this buffoon will have apologists? That's pretty cynical.



Originally posted by: Losar000

Well, she's not 50/50 like Zero, and with all the weight she has, probably could use some healthy food.

Hips don't lie.
 

da loser

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i bet this guy just forwarded a mass e-mail joke to a bunch of people, and just forgot she was on the list
 

Jaskalas

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Originally posted by: Robor
Originally posted by: winnar111
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: winnar111
The watermelons must be for Michelle.

Why's that?

Well, she's not 50/50 like Zero, and with all the weight she has, probably could use some healthy food.

Hips don't lie.

Yeah, she's real fat for a middle aged woman with 2 kids. You do realize not everyone has a perfect model/swimmer build?

I thought she looked good.
 

Jaskalas

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Originally posted by: eternalone
Racism in america is getting out of hand seriously so many racist people nowadays on TV on the radio and on the internet it makes me sick.

Takes one hell of a fool to think that in absence of lynchings that we're anywhere remotely near where we were forty years ago. Perhaps you need an education on the subject.
 

Chunkee

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Who gives a shit... anyone in the public eye, actor, pro athlete...politician, blah blah blah...is always going to be a target for jokes and criticism...get the fuck out if you cannot take it....

Who is more foolish, one who speaks it, or the one who listens to it.

Most of you droogs on here take yourself and most other things way too seriously that your ass is so tightly packed with shit, the whites of your eyes are turning brown...there are more pressing issues to be concerned about rather than a few hurt feelings due to a comic strip..

fuggin momos
 

Aikouka

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Originally posted by: Perknose
No, just ignorant and immature and stupid enough to go out of your way to advertise that fact on a forum.

Yay you.

Ohh is it time for us to tango yet again, my fair Perky? ;)

Heh, ignorant? Mmm I don't think that could be classified as ignorant in any sort of way, but I'll be awaiting your next private message attempting to bet me (yet again... sigh) $50 that it is.

See, I don't really care about events like this. It's small and so seriously insignificant that it doesn't really matter. Was the guy a little dumb for sending this from his work e-mail? Sure. Although, I'm betting it was one of those "FW:FW:FW:Funny pic" type of things, which of course doesn't make it any better, but I'm sure it wasn't just sent to her.

Immature? In some ways, immaturity is completely in the eye of the beholder. Let's just say that I have a friend that sends me 4-chan image links often :p. Also, I could burst your bubble and tell you that your idea of a pimply-faced nerd having a knee-slappin' laugh over the image is quite far-fetched, but I see no reason to justify myself to you :).

Stupid? Not nearly as stupid as someone who thinks that the antecedent can't be judged separately in regard to grammar ;).
 

SirStev0

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Originally posted by: Jaskalas
Originally posted by: eternalone
Racism in america is getting out of hand seriously so many racist people nowadays on TV on the radio and on the internet it makes me sick.

Takes one hell of a fool to think that in absence of lynchings that we're anywhere remotely near where we were forty years ago. Perhaps you need an education on the subject.

maybe you need a few hours on xbox live... I don't know if racism will be anywhere near it was, but what I am hoping his point was, is that it is either coming back or it just never left.
 

DealMonkey

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LOL! He's resigning now...

http://www.ocregister.com/arti...-2319991-city-alamitos

LOS ALAMITOS ? Mayor Dean Grose said he will resign from his post because the controversy surrounding an e-mail he sent to a local businesswoman that she said was racist and offensive has impeded his ability to lead the city.

Grose announced in an e-mail released Thursday night that he will step down Monday.

?The attention brought to this matter has sadly created an image of me which is most unfortunate,? he wrote. ?I recognize that I've made a mistake and have taken steps to make sure this is never repeated.?

Grose forwarded an e-mail to a small group of people from his personal account depicting a picture of the White House with a watermelon patch imposed as a White House garden
 

Miramonti

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You've got to be racist to sent that out imo. I laughed a little, but darn, I'd never send it out, lol. It's no different imo than stereotyping jimmy carter growing peanuts on the front lawn. Blacks eating watermelon is definitely a stereotype, but clearly does not have to have a derogatory intention.
 

nobodyknows

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Originally posted by: eternalone
Racism in america is getting out of hand seriously so many racist people nowadays on TV on the radio and on the internet it makes me sick.

Why, are the number of lynchings rising?

I don't think much has changed, it's just that having a black family in the Whitehouse had made everybody more sensitive and more concerned about being "politically correct".
 

Perknose

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Originally posted by: Aikouka
See, I don't really care about events like this..

Then stop posting in this thread, you pompous little twit.
 

MovingTarget

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Meh, who cares? Sure, it was a racist joke between friends that got out to the press, but does it really make a difference to the lives of ordinary Americans that some dumbarse mayor made a racially insensitive joke? Seems more like a media Duh-version from their responsibility to report actual news. Hell, I bet if Obama came to the town I went to HS in, the press would go nuts over us offering Obama watermelons. Oh yeah, guess what that town is known for....its staple crop.....watermelon.
 

Aikouka

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Originally posted by: Perknose
Then stop posting in this thread, you pompous little twit.

Haha nice... I love how you choose one little excerpt out of the entire thing because you know you've been sullied :p. Best off is that you take it the wrong way, which isn't surprising... this is P&N, where people spin anything to the way they want it. My "I don't care about events like this" means that I don't care if someone sends out something insignificant like that. I do care that it gets as out of control as this though as I think that it doesn't "help the cause" any by people blowing such a menial event out of proportion.

Seriously, do you think this truly helps? I mean, should I be offended by that 90's movie White Men Can't Jump because I think the title demeans the athletic ability of Caucasian males everywhere?