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IronWing

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Why do the Republicans allow independents to vote on who the party’s candidates will be? That’s stupid.
 

Pohemi

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Why do the Republicans allow independents to vote on who the party’s candidates will be? That’s stupid.
Probably because they know that most of those claiming to be independents are actually just conservatives/Republicans trying to sound more reasonable and level-headed than the rest of the GOP.

AKA cowards who know their beliefs and opinions are shit, and don't want to own it.

I get your point though.
 

Zorba

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Why do the Republicans allow independents to vote on who the party’s candidates will be? That’s stupid.
Lost of state parties allow this. Oklahoma Dems allow independents to vote in their primary. It gets independents interested in Democrats earlier in the process. It could also help pick less extreme candidates.
 
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akugami

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I think the Captain High Heels shaking head gif deserves at least one last post.
 

ivwshane

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Just like Arkansas and other red states weakening child labor laws. Dems need to make this an issue.


What is the sudden explosion of these type of bills by republicans? Is there a need for more lax child labor laws? Are businesses asking for more leeway? I just don’t understand the motivation behind them. It can’t be a political win for republicans, can it?
 
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pmv

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What is the sudden explosion of these type of bills by republicans? Is there a need for more lax child labor laws? Are businesses asking for more leeway? I just don’t understand the motivation behind them. It can’t be a political win for republicans, can it?

Culture wars employed in pursuit of increased corporate profits?

Perhaps they've just come to the conclusion that anything that seems evil will please the base? (so before long they'll be putting forward bills to execute every first-born child or bring back slavery)
 
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Pohemi

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What is the sudden explosion of these type of bills by republicans? Is there a need for more lax child labor laws? Are businesses asking for more leeway? I just don’t understand the motivation behind them. It can’t be a political win for republicans, can it?
Culture wars employed in pursuit of increased corporate profits?

This could maybe even go in the conspiracy thread, but...

I have a theory about red states fighting education (for decades) to keep their civilians stupid, that are now lowering ages for child labor so they can have more (read: younger) drone workers for their factories and meat-processing plants. Laws are also starting to change as far as employers being able to schedule high school workers to longer hours on school nights. It's a coordinated effort.

'Fuck those kids anyway, amirite? Treat them like the trash they are, and they'll still vote for us when they're adults! Win-win-win.'

Give families an option for either an education or a job when the kids hit 14 (or w/e age)...how many families in deep red states will opt for the employment to "help out the family" ?
 

outriding

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Just like Arkansas and other red states weakening child labor laws. Dems need to make this an issue.

Fuck you

I don’t need some fancy edumacted liberals telling me how to raise ma kids we donut need your readin rwiten rithmaticing

My daddy digger ditches. I diggin ditches and ma kids r diggen ditches

You dun go ate ur avacado bread and leeve us patriots be
 

APU_Fusion

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More kids working means less in schools, then teachers get laid off due to fewer students which leads to schools closing...state saves money, population is dumber...win.

edit: forgot businesses save money by not giving full time benefits.
Don’t forget them there red states got them there blue states to give them all them there greenbacks to prop up the poors and them there leaders can scream about socialism while laughing at all the poors and dumb dumbs working for them as the elites
 

zinfamous

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More kids working means less in schools, then teachers get laid off due to fewer students which leads to schools closing...state saves money, population is dumber...win.

edit: forgot businesses save money by not giving full time benefits.

yeah all of this is really just unrestrained capitalism to continue raping the very people that vote for it along immoral social arguments: their unending defense of cells whose only real life-existence is to provide child meat for their factories.

God forbid we allow actual humans into the country to do these jobs--it's better that we exploit our young, forced-birth idiots that will not be allowed any opportunity for education or actual growth. Their labor is still vastly cheaper than immigrant labor

this is what so-called white christians in this country want more than anything: capitalist Jesus running labor camps of unwanted bastard children until they die at the Bronze-aged age of 35, to keep their conservative supporters stupid and forever poor, because all they need to believe in this religion is that "some other people are suffering because we want it to happen."

That is the GOP.
 
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Another case will likely be before the court regarding federal labor bureau. Basically it’s a state responsibility and there should be no federal labor laws or worker protection or rights.
 
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akugami

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Don’t forget them there red states got them there blue states to give them all them there greenbacks to prop up the poors and them there leaders can scream about socialism while laughing at all the poors and dumb dumbs working for them as the elites


Ha! Jokes on you! Checkmate you liberal commie bastards! Take your commie dollars and shove it up your rears!
 

HomerJS

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The other day Trump floated the idea of Tim Scott being on his short list. Did it in a way that emasculated Scott but that’s not the point. The meatball responded by implying “you better not put those darkies in leadership positions in this party”.
 
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nakedfrog

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Why do the Republicans allow independents to vote on who the party’s candidates will be? That’s stupid.
I just got my primary ballot, seems here in WA I can vote for one candidate from one party, and they both have a write-in section. Haven't figured out what I'm going to do yet.
It's alphabetical by last name, but it's still fun to see loser Donnie at the bottom of the Republican candidate list.
Another case will likely be before the court regarding federal labor bureau. Basically it’s a state responsibility and there should be no federal labor laws or worker protection or rights.
Yeah, I saw that Amazon has joined the companies arguing that the National Labor Board is unconstitutional, which kinda tells you everything you need to know.
 
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hal2kilo

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What is the sudden explosion of these type of bills by republicans? Is there a need for more lax child labor laws? Are businesses asking for more leeway? I just don’t understand the motivation behind them. It can’t be a political win for republicans, can it?
Billionaire propaganda induced Stockholm Syndrome.
 
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NWRMidnight

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I just got my primary ballot, seems here in WA I can vote for one candidate from one party, and they both have a write-in section. Haven't figured out what I'm going to do yet.
It's alphabetical by last name, but it's still fun to see loser Donnie at the bottom of the Republican candidate list.

Yeah, I saw that Amazon has joined the companies arguing that the National Labor Board is unconstitutional, which kinda tells you everything you need to know.
It's sad that these companies are trying to argue that the NLB is unconstitutional when that has already been answered in 1937, when it was ruled constitutional by the SCOTUS. Yeah, I know, we have a different SCOTUS today, who likes to change the rules and not rule based on set precidence and law, which is why these big corporations are hoping that ruling gets reversed. Every working person should be very concerned about what this SCOTUS may do, because if they rule in favor of these big corporations, it will be the beginning of the dismantling of worker's rights and protections, which will most lead to the end of Unions and the protections they offer.
 
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Thump553

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It's sad that these companies are trying to argue that the NLB is unconstitutional when that has already been answered in 1937, when it was ruled constitutional by the SCOTUS. Yeah, I know, we have a different SCOTUS today, who likes to change the rules and not rule based on set precidence and law, which is why these big corporations are hoping that ruling gets reversed. Every working person should be very concerned about what this SCOTUS may do, because if they rule in favor of these big corporations, it will be the beginning of the dismantling of worker's rights and protections, which will most lead to the end of Unions and the protections they offer.

Looking at the situation a slightly different way, this activist super-legislature "court" has already burned through nearly all the major Supreme Court rulings and legislation of the sixties and seventies already. Their choices are (a) STFU and start acting as a real Supreme Court-never going to happen IMO, (b) start tearing down more current advances, like ObamaCare, gay marriage/rights, etc-trouble here the citizens' memory is not that short or (c) go back to the golden days of reactionary opposition on the Court and finally gut the Fair Deal achievements. Can voiding Social Security and Medicare be all that far behind? Those, plus labor laws, are the holy grail for these reactionaries.
 

Stokely

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It's not rocket science and it doesn't take a conspiracy theory to see that the GOP would love to gut public education. GOP leadership is smart enough to look at the same voting demographics we all can look at.


On one side, college-educated women lead the way for voting (D).

On the other, non-college educated men lead the way for voting (R).

Solution, make more of the latter and try to discourage the former (as well as pesky minorities who might want to vote.) The abortion issue seems like an incredible own goal as far as riling up educated women, but there's a lot of bible-humping minorities so maybe they figure this'll even out or be a win. The GOP has always been better than Democrats at identifying and exploiting public ignorance.

Now, they still want lots of money for private schools because where else can the rich send their kids? And preferably Jesus-friendly ones.
 
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It's not rocket science and it doesn't take a conspiracy theory to see that the GOP would love to gut public education. GOP leadership is smart enough to look at the same voting demographics we all can look at.


On one side, college-educated women lead the way for voting (D).

On the other, non-college educated men lead the way for voting (R).

Solution, make more of the latter and try to discourage the former (as well as pesky minorities who might want to vote.) The abortion issue seems like an incredible own goal as far as riling up educated women, but there's a lot of bible-humping minorities so maybe they figure this'll even out or be a win. The GOP has always been better than Democrats at identifying and exploiting public ignorance.

Now, they still want lots of money for private schools because where else can the rich send their kids? And preferably Jesus-friendly ones.

You're missing the reality. They want private schools so they can indoctrinate children. That's why they pushed so hard to get the vouchers for charter schools, so they can then get people to start sending their kids to schools that don't have to actually follow any real accreditation and can literally preach to them. If they can help RWNJ profit off of it as well, all the better in their eyes.

You're seeing it in realtime as some right wingers are actually getting shit like PragerU added as acceptable education for some programs as well.

Which, there's other benefits for them as well. Its letting them effectively re-segregate schools.
 
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Paratus

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What is the sudden explosion of these type of bills by republicans? Is there a need for more lax child labor laws? Are businesses asking for more leeway? I just don’t understand the motivation behind them. It can’t be a political win for republicans, can it?
Besides the knock on affects to education as described above don’t forget unemployment is at historic lows and wages are starting to grow. Immigrant labor is politically charged right now so adding a bunch of low cost kids to the labor force helps drive down labor costs as it increases the supply of labor.
 
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hal2kilo

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You're missing the reality. They want private schools so they can indoctrinate children. That's why they pushed so hard to get the vouchers for charter schools, so they can then get people to start sending their kids to schools that don't have to actually follow any real accreditation and can literally preach to them. If they can help RWNJ profit off of it as well, all the better in their eyes.

You're seeing it in realtime as some right wingers are actually getting shit like PragerU added as acceptable education for some programs as well.

Which, there's other benefits for them as well. Its letting them effectively re-segregate schools.
It's just an extension of what churches/religions due. They never wait until you have enough knowledge to think for yourself. Get'em young.
 
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