Maybe we should have a general Meatball Ron (desantis) thread

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fskimospy

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What you haven't done is take responsibility for the election of the most corrupt President in the country's history.

Personal responsibility my ass.
One upside is that you can completely ignore any complaints about poor governance or corruption from someone who voted for Trump in 2020. They saw four years of him being openly and publicly bribed through his hotel five blocks from the White House and signed up for four more years of it anyway.

This is another one of those things where when people pretend to care about something we don't have to pretend to believe them.
 
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HomerJS

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One upside is that you can completely ignore any complaints about poor governance or corruption from someone who voted for Trump in 2020. They saw four years of him being openly and publicly bribed through his hotel five blocks from the White House and signed up for four more years of it anyway.

This is another one of those things where when people pretend to care about something we don't have to pretend to believe them.
I already know what he is going to say. "They are all corrupt". Bothsides it when he is in the wrong despite overwhelming evidence.
 
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fskimospy

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I already know what he is going to say. "They are all corrupt". Bothsides it when he is in the wrong despite overwhelming evidence.
Well sure - nobody is going to admit they don't care about corruption because it looks bad. Also blanket statements like that aren't really able to be proven or disproven so he can avoid pesky things like people asking him to support his statements.
 

fskimospy

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No he didn't get the sweet deal as it fell apart in court.


Hunter Biden was expected to plead guilty to two federal misdemeanor counts of failing to pay his taxes after reaching a plea agreement with Weiss. But the deal collapsed last month over confusion about a separate felony gun possession charge, and Biden instead pleaded not guilty.

At a court hearing last month, Judge Maryellen Noreika said that she wouldn't accept or reject the plea agreement until both sides had addressed her concerns over its terms.
This is odd - I heard from you that the judge scrapped the plea deal because it was too lenient but instead it was because the feds wanted the option to charge him with more crimes and that any revised deal was too harsh for Biden’s attorneys to accept.

Does this make you want to revise any of your opinions or re-evaluate how you came to them? If not, why?

 

nakedfrog

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Well, well
"You don’t have the right to do things that are going to be destructive to kids."
Hm, like force them to give birth when they're barely teenagers? Or indoctrinating them into a religion that will fill them with self-hate if they happen to be queer? Smells like pudding and bullshit in here. "Parent's rights" my left arse-cheek, legislatively taking away the rights of parents to decide what care is right for their kids. Meanwhile, infant genital mutilation is still legal in the state of Florida.
 
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HomerJS

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Oh, the ironing.
Reporters should hound him on this. Ask question in 2 parts.

If a parent has a minor child who was raped and they become pregnant should the government intervene in a family decision to seek an abortion?

If that happens to your kids should they be forced to carry to term?
 
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MrSquished

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Holy shit!

Another thread where pcgeek shows he is completely dishonest, hypocritical, and a pathological liar, and irredeemable.

I'm amazed!

It's funny how almost everybody but @fskimospy sees what geek is. Just like he had no clue who DeSantis is, or Greenman, and so many more.

The guy is a pseudo intellectual fool.
 
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akugami

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Reporters should hound him on this. Ask question in 2 parts.

If a parent has a minor child who was raped and they become pregnant should the government intervene in a family decision to seek an abortion?

If that happens to your kids should they be forced to carry to term?

If your kid got pregnant, and has a nonviable fetus, should they be forced by law to carry a child to term, only to watch it die?
 
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pcgeek11

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Of course that’s the two-step. Trump wasn’t charged with crimes by Mueller, therefore he was innocent, now he’s charged with crimes by others, therefore he’s persecuted.

Really this is just a lifelong criminal getting what he has been asking for his entire life.

Why didn't Mueller charge him?

Innocent until proven guilty.
 

pcgeek11

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What you haven't done is take responsibility for the election of the most corrupt President in the country's history.

Personal responsibility my ass.


As in what should I do in order to "take responsibility" in your opinion?
 

pcgeek11

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Mueller explicitly stated in his report that DOJ policy didn’t permit him to charge Trump.

Regardless, what is Trump being persecuted with, specifically?

If he had proof of crimes by DJT why couldn't he be charged? Makes no sense that he couldn't. I understood that the special Prosecutor can charge anywhere.
 

brycejones

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This is odd - I heard from you that the judge scrapped the plea deal because it was too lenient but instead it was because the feds wanted the option to charge him with more crimes and that any revised deal was too harsh for Biden’s attorneys to accept.

Does this make you want to revise any of your opinions or re-evaluate how you came to them? If not, why?

hmmm.....It's almost like pcgeek didn't read or understand his linked article.
 

hal2kilo

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Mueller explicitly stated in his report that DOJ policy didn’t permit him to charge Trump.

Regardless, what is Trump being persecuted with, specifically?
Not to derail, but I just went by Fox and Billy Barr was going on and on about how these current charges against Trump are legit. He was asked why he joined the Trump team in the first place, and his answer was that he was being unfairly charged with Russian collusion. Had to move my head out of my own way, as I tried to slap my forehead.
 

fskimospy

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If he had proof of crimes by DJT why couldn't he be charged? Makes no sense that he couldn't. I understood that the special Prosecutor can charge anywhere.
Because he was subject to DOJ policy and DOJ policy explicitly prohibits indictment of the sitting president.

Again, this was explicitly and prominently stated in the report.
 

nakedfrog

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If he had proof of crimes by DJT why couldn't he be charged? Makes no sense that he couldn't. I understood that the special Prosecutor can charge anywhere.
Oh, FFS. Are you suffering dementia now?
Special counsel Robert Mueller said Wednesday that charging President Donald Trump with a crime was “not an option” because of federal rules, but he used his first public remarks on the Russia investigation to emphasize that he did not exonerate the president.

“If we had had confidence that the president clearly did not commit a crime, we would have said so,” Mueller declared.
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Mueller made clear that his team never considered indicting Trump because the Justice Department prohibits the prosecution of a sitting president.
 
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APU_Fusion

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Not to derail, but I just went by Fox and Billy Barr was going on and on about how these current charges against Trump are legit. He was asked why he joined the Trump team in the first place, and his answer was that he was being unfairly charged with Russian collusion. Had to move my head out of my own way, as I tried to slap my forehead.
I mean …. There is nothing to say to that cognitive dissonance. The charges are true but I joined the gang because of the charges … errr
 
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pcgeek11

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Oh, FFS. Are you suffering dementia now?


Innocent until Proven Guilty. He doesn't need to exonerate.
 

fskimospy

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Innocent until Proven Guilty. He doesn't need to exonerate.
This is the sort of two-step I was referring to. He can’t be charged because he’s the president but since he wasn’t convicted (because he couldn’t be charged) he didn’t do anything wrong! Perfectly circular reasoning.