maybe the stupidest post i've ever read on ATOT. read inside

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edmicman

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let him get judged in the court of public opinion then. sometimes you just gotta call someone out.
 

Borracho

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Originally posted by: Jzero
Originally posted by: fisher

uh. wow that was a lot of words that have nothing to do with what he said.
You just failed the reading comprehension part. It was a direct response to what izzo wrote.

the whole convicted killer vs barry bonds thing isn't quite right anyway. but we're not talking about killers and the fifth amendment and testifying against yourself. we're talking about grown men who won't take a drug test because they hide behind the union, and because they already know the results, much like most people with eyes do. if it's banned, then there shouldn't be any hiding, and players should routinely be tested. if i went to work stoned out of my mind and it was really obvious, i'd be getting a drug test. i can't just say "yeah i think i'm going to pass" and claim whatever they are claiming these days. it'd be bad for my job if i took the test. because i'd be FIRED.

whatever.

And now for the logic part.
It doesn't matter if you look stoned. If your employer doesn't require the test, you don't have to take one. People can speculate all they want. The actions of the players' union speaks quite loudly.

But no proof is still no proof. Until MLB and the union steps up to the plate (no pun intended), you've got nothing on Barry Bonds.

Even if there is no proof, I still say he is juiced. If I am wrong forgive me, but I don't believe I am alone in my opinion. Anyway who really cares baseball just fills the void till football starts in the fall!
 

MisterRaven

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Originally posted by: ndee
Originally posted by: Kalvin00
Originally posted by: nakedfrog
I've seen much stupider posts than that.

Yep, just step next door to P&N and you'll find anti-Bush propoganda that sounds like it was written by a three year old..

Like Bush is any better than a 3 year old
rolleye.gif

Seconded. :D
 

SoylentGreen

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Originally posted by: Kalvin00
Originally posted by: nakedfrog I've seen much stupider posts than that.
Yep, just step next door to P&N and you'll find anti-Bush propoganda that sounds like it was written by a three year old..

Nice generalization!

Pro bush has to be any person with the mentality of 3 years or less. There's no other explanation with the last few years of an utterly horrible administration.
 

patrickj

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Originally posted by: gistech1978
youre no longer innocent until proven guilty.
youre guilty until proven innocent, right?

This is true if you are charged with violating the Patriot Act...

 

shimsham

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if bonds has nothing to hide, why not voluntarily piss in a cup and shut everyone up? because he knows he will fail.

hes roided up, so his stats are tainted.
 

RagingBITCH

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Originally posted by: Kiyup
Originally posted by: Kalvin00
Originally posted by: nakedfrog I've seen much stupider posts than that.
Yep, just step next door to P&N and you'll find anti-Bush propoganda that sounds like it was written by a three year old..

Nice generalization!

Pro bush has to be any person with the mentality of 3 years or less. There's no other explanation with the last few years of an utterly horrible administration.

rolleye.gif
Troll.
 

GasX

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Originally posted by: amcdonald
Originally posted by: Mwilding
my dog's breath smells like dog food

[simpsons nazi]
Worst attempted simpsons reference ever.
Its "My cat's breath smells like cat food"
[/simpsons nazi]
I don't have a cat, I have a dog...
rolleye.gif
 

SoylentGreen

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Originally posted by: RagingBITCH
Originally posted by: Kiyup
Originally posted by: Kalvin00
Originally posted by: nakedfrog I've seen much stupider posts than that.
Yep, just step next door to P&N and you'll find anti-Bush propoganda that sounds like it was written by a three year old..
Nice generalization! Pro bush has to be any person with the mentality of 3 years or less. There's no other explanation with the last few years of an utterly horrible administration.
rolleye.gif
Troll.

Go back to hot deals so you can be ripped another asshole, asshole.
 

IndieSnob

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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Kalvin00
Originally posted by: nakedfrog
I've seen much stupider posts than that.

Yep, just step next door to P&N and you'll find anti-Bush propoganda that sounds like it was written by a three year old..
Actually Crimson is Pro Bush

Zinnnnnnngggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggg :D
 

RagingBITCH

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Originally posted by: Kiyup
Originally posted by: RagingBITCH
Originally posted by: Kiyup
Originally posted by: Kalvin00
Originally posted by: nakedfrog I've seen much stupider posts than that.
Yep, just step next door to P&N and you'll find anti-Bush propoganda that sounds like it was written by a three year old..
Nice generalization! Pro bush has to be any person with the mentality of 3 years or less. There's no other explanation with the last few years of an utterly horrible administration.
rolleye.gif
Troll.

Go back to hot deals so you can be ripped another asshole, asshole.

Oh no, people don't like the fact that I called someone out for obviously pirating games. Oh noes, what shall I do?
rolleye.gif
It's pretty obvious by your crap for posts who the asshole is, moron.
 

Mallow

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I'm surprised that is the dumbest you have ever seen, being a lifer and all. I think your just forgetting the other ones.
 

Izzo

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Originally posted by: Jzero
Originally posted by: fisher

uh. wow that was a lot of words that have nothing to do with what he said.
You just failed the reading comprehension part. It was a direct response to what izzo wrote.

the whole convicted killer vs barry bonds thing isn't quite right anyway. but we're not talking about killers and the fifth amendment and testifying against yourself. we're talking about grown men who won't take a drug test because they hide behind the union, and because they already know the results, much like most people with eyes do. if it's banned, then there shouldn't be any hiding, and players should routinely be tested. if i went to work stoned out of my mind and it was really obvious, i'd be getting a drug test. i can't just say "yeah i think i'm going to pass" and claim whatever they are claiming these days. it'd be bad for my job if i took the test. because i'd be FIRED.

whatever.

And now for the logic part.
It doesn't matter if you look stoned. If your employer doesn't require the test, you don't have to take one. People can speculate all they want. The actions of the players' union speaks quite loudly.

But no proof is still no proof. Until MLB and the union steps up to the plate (no pun intended), you've got nothing on Barry Bonds.
Well, myself and a lot of others in this thread and the other barry bonds thread think your logic part is flawed. Calling shenanigans on someone who is lying is not uncommon and doesn't result in re-writing the bill of rights like you seem to think it does. Bonds can prove us wrong at any time. But until he does, there will always be questions about his accomplishments.
Here is a link that has two pics of 1998 Bonds. He hit 40 home runs max with this body mass. Then within 3-4 years (well past his prime athletic age) he exploded in size and strength without losing too much speed. Nah, steroids weren't involved at all. Of course not.
 

Jzero

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Originally posted by: Izzo
Well, myself and a lot of others in this thread and the other barry bonds thread think your logic part is flawed.
Hey, don't blame me if you think lack of proof of something constitutes proof of the opposite.

But until he does, there will always be questions about his accomplishments.
Ahh, now you change your tune.
As I said before, I wholeheartedly believe he juices like no other, but there's no real proof, no matter how obvious it is. You were called out in this thread, not because of your opinion of Bonds, steroids or MLB, but because of the bolded statement in the original post.
 

PlatinumGold

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Originally posted by: Izzo
Originally posted by: Jzero
Originally posted by: fisher

uh. wow that was a lot of words that have nothing to do with what he said.
You just failed the reading comprehension part. It was a direct response to what izzo wrote.

the whole convicted killer vs barry bonds thing isn't quite right anyway. but we're not talking about killers and the fifth amendment and testifying against yourself. we're talking about grown men who won't take a drug test because they hide behind the union, and because they already know the results, much like most people with eyes do. if it's banned, then there shouldn't be any hiding, and players should routinely be tested. if i went to work stoned out of my mind and it was really obvious, i'd be getting a drug test. i can't just say "yeah i think i'm going to pass" and claim whatever they are claiming these days. it'd be bad for my job if i took the test. because i'd be FIRED.

whatever.

And now for the logic part.
It doesn't matter if you look stoned. If your employer doesn't require the test, you don't have to take one. People can speculate all they want. The actions of the players' union speaks quite loudly.

But no proof is still no proof. Until MLB and the union steps up to the plate (no pun intended), you've got nothing on Barry Bonds.
Well, myself and a lot of others in this thread and the other barry bonds thread think your logic part is flawed. Calling shenanigans on someone who is lying is not uncommon and doesn't result in re-writing the bill of rights like you seem to think it does. Bonds can prove us wrong at any time. But until he does, there will always be questions about his accomplishments.
Here">http://www.geocities.com/Colosseum/Park/1138/photos/photos.html[/S</a> is a link that has two pics of 1998 Bonds. He hit 40 home runs max with this body mass. Then within 3-4 years (well past his prime athletic age) he exploded in size and strength without losing too much speed. Nah, steroids weren't involved at all. Of course not.

ok, let's try the logic part one more time.

the reason why burden of proof ALWAYS lies with the accuser.

you can prove that someone DID do something in the past but you can NEVER prove that he NEVER did it.

your assumption is, Bonds DID do steroids hence it burden of proof is on him to prove he never did, but what if he didn't? even if he did piss in all the cups etc and got tested, because of your assumption you will continue to say he did roids but is just covering it up well.


you have every right to speculate and give an opinion, however, making the statement "Burden of proof is on barry to show that he didn't do roids shows a definite lack of logical processing.