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Maybe coronavirus will finally make us get serious about illegal immigration

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"Maybe coronavirus will finally make us get serious about illegal immigration"


glenn1 said:
Perhaps once the left sees illegal immigrants as the potential carriers of pestilence into their cities
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Wow. I had no idea that illegal aliens were the carriers of coronavirus into the US. Here all this time I've thought it was basically US citizens who were traveling outside of the US who brought it back. Please provide links so that we can all be educated. Otherwise we might think you were just using a clickbait title for a thread that has nothing to do with coronavirus and everything to do with your own personal disgusting xenophobia.
 
My company has many people that travel to China and all over the world for business. They can just as easily bring it back. Weve had 2 exposures already that had to be quarantined at home for 2 weeks.

404 - Illegal immigration not found
 
boomerang said:
Lefties want to deal with the effect and not the cause. I'm shocked, shocked I tell you.
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As of today, there are 8 COVID-19 cases in Mexico; cases in adjoining Latin American countries aren't much higher. There are 1,016 cases in the US. Now, even considering the limitations of testing, it's pretty clear that illegal immigration to the US is not the cause.

I mean, it's not surprising that you'd rush to blame illegal immigration since you've been conditioned to scapegoat brown-skinned people for your own failures, but the real cause is poor sanitation at a Chinese wet market combined with a virus whose symptoms don't manifest for several days, allowing it to rapidly spread with modern transportation.
 
Is it too much to indulge the OP by saying that, although it is currently irrelevant for COVID-19 and unlikely to every be relevant for COVID-19, there does exist some vulnerability with an insecure border for potential future illnesses? I don't think that securing the border is likely a priority for future outbreaks and technically quite difficult besides. If taken with a real evidence-based risk analysis for potential future outbreaks, consideration for border security is relevant.
 
Commodus said:
As of today, there are 8 COVID-19 cases in Mexico; cases in adjoining Latin American countries aren't much higher. There are 1,016 cases in the US. Now, even considering the limitations of testing, it's pretty clear that illegal immigration to the US is not the cause.

I mean, it's not surprising that you'd rush to blame illegal immigration since you've been conditioned to scapegoat brown-skinned people for your own failures, but the real cause is poor sanitation at a Chinese wet market combined with a virus whose symptoms don't manifest for several days, allowing it to rapidly spread with modern transportation.
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Don't forget a completely inadequate response from the US government.
 
interchange said:
Is it too much to indulge the OP by saying that, although it is currently irrelevant for COVID-19 and unlikely to every be relevant for COVID-19, there does exist some vulnerability with an insecure border for potential future illnesses? I don't think that securing the border is likely a priority for future outbreaks and technically quite difficult besides. If taken with a real evidence-based risk analysis for potential future outbreaks, consideration for border security is relevant.
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I don't think that illegal border crossings has ever been a consideration as a vector for disease, and given that often illegal border-crossers spend several weeks in mostly-isolation, I would wager they're at far more risk of developing an infection upon arrival than they are of carrying something in.
 
[DHT]Osiris said:
I don't think that illegal border crossings has ever been a consideration as a vector for disease, and given that often illegal border-crossers spend several weeks in mostly-isolation, I would wager they're at far more risk of developing an infection upon arrival than they are of carrying something in.
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The issue is people who escape detainment, although I'm not sure how prevalent that is. Disease outbreak would also overwhelm our capacity to house and care for detainees even more and be a complicated public health problem for deportation. Likely just be an even more tragic extension of what's currently happening.
 
interchange said:
The issue is people who escape detainment, although I'm not sure how prevalent that is. Disease outbreak would also overwhelm our capacity to house and care for detainees even more and be a complicated public health problem for deportation. Likely just be an even more tragic extension of what's currently happening.
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Won't overwhelm anything, just let them die in detention, problem solved with a cute little bow on it.

When was the last time you heard anything about the Uyghurs?
 
interchange said:
The issue is people who escape detainment, although I'm not sure how prevalent that is. Disease outbreak would also overwhelm our capacity to house and care for detainees even more and be a complicated public health problem for deportation. Likely just be an even more tragic extension of what's currently happening.
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The administration has already indicated they don’t care about the public health angle since they ended all vaccinations in detention facilities.
 
interchange said:
Is it too much to indulge the OP by saying that, although it is currently irrelevant for COVID-19 and unlikely to every be relevant for COVID-19, there does exist some vulnerability with an insecure border for potential future illnesses? I don't think that securing the border is likely a priority for future outbreaks and technically quite difficult besides. If taken with a real evidence-based risk analysis for potential future outbreaks, consideration for border security is relevant.
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You're dealing in reality. These folks can't see past their own noses since mommy and daddy wiped their asses until they were well into their 30s. Now they think it's sunshine and daffodils everywhere and everyone. The concept of disease or people growing up chopping people's heads off is foreign to their feeble minds. We can't hurt anyone's feelings. Now these pussies are giving away participation trophies.
 
OILFIELDTRASH said:
You're dealing in reality. These folks can't see past their own noses since mommy and daddy wiped their asses until they were well into their 30s. Now they think it's sunshine and daffodils everywhere and everyone. The concept of disease or people growing up chopping people's heads off is foreign to their feeble minds. We can't hurt anyone's feelings. Now these pussies are giving away participation trophies.
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quoted for WTF?
 
Commodus said:
As of today, there are 8 COVID-19 cases in Mexico; cases in adjoining Latin American countries aren't much higher. There are 1,016 cases in the US. Now, even considering the limitations of testing, it's pretty clear that illegal immigration to the US is not the cause.

I mean, it's not surprising that you'd rush to blame illegal immigration since you've been conditioned to scapegoat brown-skinned people for your own failures, but the real cause is poor sanitation at a Chinese wet market combined with a virus whose symptoms don't manifest for several days, allowing it to rapidly spread with modern transportation.
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Yeah, I was going to say by the numbers as of now, Mexico needs to build a wall to keep us out.
 
glenn1 said:
Perhaps once the left sees illegal immigrants as the potential carriers of pestilence into their cities instead of ripe targets of wage exploitation we'll see a turn on views on this? Will the nativist right continue to deny reality and fight against any increase of legal immigration quotas and simply hope for the best and hope that illegals get tired of making the trip? Hard to enjoy that produce picked from the fields by the illegals you happily overlook, or risk your kids' health to the Guatemalan nanny you pay under the table. Maybe just maybe we can admit there's a point to demanding immigration by via legal channels, insisting all immigrants are vetted for health, ideology, and other concerns, mandating those already here to report to be screened and pay heavy monetary fines, and deporting the rest who don't comply? Nah that's too mean, we can't expect them to obey the laws or anything (talking about both the illegal immigrants and their enablers who excuse away their acts).
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Sure kill off the ability to defend America against attacks and then when we are attacked, lie, cover up, and send your drones out to trumpet blame onto immigrants for your failures. Way to pull up your bootstraps.
 
OILFIELDTRASH said:
You're dealing in reality. These folks can't see past their own noses since mommy and daddy wiped their asses until they were well into their 30s. Now they think it's sunshine and daffodils everywhere and everyone. The concept of disease or people growing up chopping people's heads off is foreign to their feeble minds. We can't hurt anyone's feelings. Now these pussies are giving away participation trophies.
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Gawd. Anybody traveling anywhere can carry disease. Globalization makes travel a lot more common. The way we travel, packed into groups, enables in-transit transmission. Cruise ships, airplanes, public transit of all sorts. What's really at issue is our ability to slow the spread so that health systems are not overwhelmed by a new disease for which no herd immunity exists at all.

With coronavirus, that's a difficult proposition without Trumpian bullshit & culture warrior raving. It's not a Democratic hoax to make Trump look bad. His utter ineptitude & disregard for the facts already did that. Too bad he can't gaslight a virus, huh?
 
glenn1 said:
Perhaps once the left sees illegal immigrants as the potential carriers of pestilence into their cities instead of ripe targets of wage exploitation we'll see a turn on views on this? Will the nativist right continue to deny reality and fight against any increase of legal immigration quotas and simply hope for the best and hope that illegals get tired of making the trip? Hard to enjoy that produce picked from the fields by the illegals you happily overlook, or risk your kids' health to the Guatemalan nanny you pay under the table. Maybe just maybe we can admit there's a point to demanding immigration by via legal channels, insisting all immigrants are vetted for health, ideology, and other concerns, mandating those already here to report to be screened and pay heavy monetary fines, and deporting the rest who don't comply? Nah that's too mean, we can't expect them to obey the laws or anything (talking about both the illegal immigrants and their enablers who excuse away their acts).
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Someone had drunk way too much orange kool-aid over the last couple of years. It destroys brain cells and reason.
 
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