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Max Payne 3
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shortylickens
No Lifer
Enjoy it. After another incident in another thread it will probably get me banned for life.
But I still think he is lying his ass off.
I dont doubt he dislikes the cutscenes, they're not for everybody.
But he is outright lying if he wants us to believe the first two games were easy and had uninspired, short gameplay.
QueBert
Lifer
So the games weren't super short and so easy you could beat them in a single sitting? I'm not full of shit, they were both boring, rail like shooter with no puzzles and crappy cut scenes. And that pretty much sums up Max Payne. If the games were 3 times as long and actually possessed a challenge I might have liked them. As it stands, they were 2 games I could EASILY beat both during 1 sitting. Not my idea of fun at all *shrug*
paperfist
Diamond Member
For the same reason movie companies do, they lack the imagination to create from scratch and instead borrow from the past and pervert it for the sake of cash.
lol those screen shots are as far away from being a MP game as you could get. I hope they don't even bother with a PC port. Wow Max WTF happened to you!? 😛
QueBert
Lifer
I really liked the construction snipering level. Aside from that I found everything else boring as shit. Well, the Fun House level was mildly amusing too I guess. I did not like either game as a whole. I paid 50 bucks for a game (MP1) that I beat in a single 6 hour sitting where I died a whopping 1 time. Biggest waste of money ever. I replayed on a harder level, AI didn't get any better, it still sucked ass. But they did more damage. I never finished it on the hard level, as it was still the same sucky ass rail game. I want to explore, I want to face baddies who actually have some sort of AI, and I don't want every battle to start scripted out of the ass.
Zenoth
Diamond Member
So... briefly said:
If you died only one time in a game
If it's scripted
If you cannot explore
If you pay $50
If the A.I isn't "better" in higher difficulty levels
If it's a "rail game"
Then it sucks?
You'll have to tell us since when you've been playing video games. I have the feeling you've just started, or you've only played sandbox games in your life, which arguably started with GTA3, and on the video gaming timeline that would make you an infant, if not an ignorant gamer. If you actually lived and played games during the 8-Bit to 32-Bit gaming eras you would have died of boredom and wouldn't actually made it alive to this day to write on these forums, because 99% of the games back then and even up to very recently have always been like that. Well, in fact, they're still almost all like that. If I was you I would quit gaming and find other hobbies.
Sam25
Golden Member
BenSkywalker
Diamond Member
I think saying Max Payne is overrated isn't entirely accurate. I find it more accurate so say the poorest game since ET.
First off the story, I wanted to kill Max myself, I even tried to find a way to shoot myself in the face. His wife and child are brutally murdered and all he can do is whine like a pathetic little bitch for the entire game about how it gave him poor dreams. Seriously, flat out horrible. The dialect of the game was entirely monotone with over the top verbosity, a pathetic level of disjointedness at best. Nothing relating to the story was so much as poorly done, analyzing it I tried to think of anything they could have done worse as far as the story line, I couldn't come up with anything. Typical porn has far better thought out and acted story, the porn that attempts to have a story blows Max Payne out of the water.
Obviously the game had no AI to speak of.
Level design.... walk into a 10'x12' room and shoot three guys. Then walk into a 10'x12' room and shoot three guys. After that, walk into a 10'x12' room and shoot two guys. Then the big shocker- walk into a 12'x14' room and shoot three guys- some stunning creativity there. Yes, you had the dumb luck escape from the fire sequence(responsible for both my deaths in the entire game on my first play through) and then the obnoxiously bad dream/maze sequences then the final level which was a terribad wannabe Matrix knockoff.
Game difficulty wasn't there. Even on the highest difficulty level, the only way you could expect to die is if you walked into a room and got one shotted by someone with a shotgun from close range- at which point you just bullet timed into the room and took him out. Any helmet head should have been able to drool on their keyboard and smoked through this game in under 10 hours, including reload times for when their mouth dried out a bit and they happened to die.
Even dropping down to visuals and audio, both sub par for its time- engine was too slow for what it was doing on screen(it wasn't a dog by any means, but it paled in comparison to games that were outdated at the time- Giants springs to mind which also ran faster) I was doing game reviews when Max Payne came out, gave it a 0.5, I regret it to this day as I think I overrated it.
Max Payne as a game has absolutely no redeeming value whatsoever. On every level it is horrible. I wouldn't play through the second one if someone paid me, same with the third.
First off the story, I wanted to kill Max myself, I even tried to find a way to shoot myself in the face. His wife and child are brutally murdered and all he can do is whine like a pathetic little bitch for the entire game about how it gave him poor dreams. Seriously, flat out horrible. The dialect of the game was entirely monotone with over the top verbosity, a pathetic level of disjointedness at best. Nothing relating to the story was so much as poorly done, analyzing it I tried to think of anything they could have done worse as far as the story line, I couldn't come up with anything. Typical porn has far better thought out and acted story, the porn that attempts to have a story blows Max Payne out of the water.
Obviously the game had no AI to speak of.
Level design.... walk into a 10'x12' room and shoot three guys. Then walk into a 10'x12' room and shoot three guys. After that, walk into a 10'x12' room and shoot two guys. Then the big shocker- walk into a 12'x14' room and shoot three guys- some stunning creativity there. Yes, you had the dumb luck escape from the fire sequence(responsible for both my deaths in the entire game on my first play through) and then the obnoxiously bad dream/maze sequences then the final level which was a terribad wannabe Matrix knockoff.
Game difficulty wasn't there. Even on the highest difficulty level, the only way you could expect to die is if you walked into a room and got one shotted by someone with a shotgun from close range- at which point you just bullet timed into the room and took him out. Any helmet head should have been able to drool on their keyboard and smoked through this game in under 10 hours, including reload times for when their mouth dried out a bit and they happened to die.
Even dropping down to visuals and audio, both sub par for its time- engine was too slow for what it was doing on screen(it wasn't a dog by any means, but it paled in comparison to games that were outdated at the time- Giants springs to mind which also ran faster) I was doing game reviews when Max Payne came out, gave it a 0.5, I regret it to this day as I think I overrated it.
Max Payne as a game has absolutely no redeeming value whatsoever. On every level it is horrible. I wouldn't play through the second one if someone paid me, same with the third.
ibex333
Diamond Member
The only Max Payne game that was indeed very good was the 1st one. It really didn't need a sequel, but Rockstar decided to milk the franchise. The 2nd one wasn't a bad game, but it wasn't Max Payne. It was something else. And this 3rd incarnation doesn't look anything remotely like Max Payne... I'm definitely not waiting for this one. Might give it a try when it comes out, but that's as far as that goes...
biggestmuff
Diamond Member
OP, fix your links. The pics are from Splinter Cell Conviction.
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InflatableBuddha
Diamond Member
Or "Far Cry" or whatever best-selling franchise name is in question. I agree, it's simply whoring out the success of a previous franchise/brand without letting the new game stand on its own merits. For shame.
reallyscrued
Platinum Member
The man has an opinion, leave him alone, jeezus christ. No game you can finish in 6 hours should be worth 50 bucks in this day and age, and still get immensely positive reviews. I see so many games ragged on for being too short and costing too much at the same time, but everyone conveniently forgives Max Payne.
I agree with him. It was overrated and very short from start to finish. He probably has a similar play style as me, quick saving and hoarding those painkillers.
Aw really, the 8 bit days? Yeah, I guess we've come a long way in TWENTY FUCKING YEARS. Contra III was what, 6 or 7 levels? You could beat that game in a single sitting. Too bad it was still more rewarding to replay in harder difficulties because there was new enemies and attacks to deal with. Not to mention a different ending. In fact, I bet QueBert actually *is* a hardcore gamer from the 8/16 bit eras, got to the ending of Max Payne and sat at his computer thinking..."That's it?" I sure did.
Haha, died of boredom in 16 bit era, yeah that's rich.
Max Payne is uninspired. I suppose Remedy thought everyone would be so captivated by the gritty NY Cop story and the bullet time that they didn't need to worry about level design or difficulty, and for the most part, they were right.
EDIT: Nested quotes, probably unnecessary.
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