ThePresence
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Teams would make these deals left and right with players well past the 3rd round if they could. Most players are concerned with getting some upfront money, then worrying about the rest later. No play, no pay, its the best thing teams could do. They would save tons of money and only need to open up the wallet unless they had a solid players.
Not really. Late Round picks are generally depth picks and teams more and more want to sign thee guys long term and cheap (what a $410 signing bonuses and a cheap base salary would have been) so they can devolp solid system players that stay with the team for the long haul.
Originally posted by: ironcrotch
lol Care about this too much? I'm not a fan of the guy either, just takin a jab at the locals
It's tough to say how much I care. Personally, I didn't like the guy from day one... many soon followed me. There was a game early on in his starting season where he literally threw a temper tantrum on the sideline... after that, people had had enough of him, regardless of his output. I'd be lying if I told you I didn't want to see him get his butt kicked in the NFL, but that's not because OSU couldn't have him... it's just because he's a punk, and I'm sick of punk athletes.
And to everyone else, you can count yards all you want... but that's not the overall picture. His first year was the only full season he played... after that, he wasn't on the field much at all. The year of the National Championship, he only played 3 games. And like I already eluded to, Deeko, he was better than our alternatives Hall and Ross, but he was a star only when propped up against those two. You take his fragility, his lone-wolf approach to the game, and his small stature, and you have a slightly-above average player at best.
Still, you weren't even remotely close to the situation when it all took place, so it's quite arrogant of you to sit there perched on your high horse preaching about how he was coddled and "taken care of" while he was here. It's an idiotic statement to make because it's the exact opposite of what happened. He was given ONE second chance (which was one too many if you ask me), but that second chance had some very heavy strings attached... and the moment he didn't live up, he was done.
LOL
Good stuff, Deeko. I forgot, you know everything about everything, even when you know nothing.
Sorry. My bad, Scooter
. Go back to CNN and ESPN... they have a huge scoop of sh1t just waiting to be shoveled into your mouth.
How does aguy who plays three games put up 1237 yards/16TDs and win Big Ten Freshman of the Year!??!?!?!
Thats 400+ yards and 5+ TDs a game! :Q
He at least played against Michigan and the National Title game, what other team did he play against? I may no longer live in Columbus, but I think I might have heard if some Boy Wonder Buckeye was making Archie Griffen look like Archie Bunker.
Thats 400+ yards and 5+ TDs a game! :Q
He at least played against Michigan and the National Title game, what other team did he play against? I may no longer live in Columbus, but I think I might have heard if some Boy Wonder Buckeye was making Archie Griffen look like Archie Bunker.
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Originally posted by: Drakkon
LoL whatta dumbass...could've been pampered through college....now its back to the ghetto
:thumbsup:
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dr150
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wow some of you know nothing about sports....
Your feelings for/against OSU aside, the national title team was loaded with talent - more than 20 players from that team were drafted in the 2 drafts after that one - in fact, they set a record for most players drafted in the draft before this most recent one.
While Clarett did miss a number of games that season, and the pre-big 10 games were a large portion of his rushing total, he was in fact on the field in their last 2 games, which were Michigan and Miami. Do they win the title without him? No one know's, but he certainly helped that team - remember the play were he stripped the Miami DB of the ball after an interception?
OSU is no different than any other major NCAA football program - there are so many people in contact with the players away from team functions that they can't possibly hope to control everything - it's up to the players to steer clear of trouble.
I think people are focusing too much on Clarett here - but, before I forget - a 3rd round pick is not a 'late' draft pick - 3rd round picks are expected to contribute right away, even 4th rounders - perhaps not as starters, but key reserves. Clarett was STUPID for passing up guaranteed money - he wasn't being philanthropic, he was being greedy. I have to question who has made decisions for this kid in the last few years - I was ok with him challenging the NFL rule about draft eligibility, but everything he's done since then has been a clusterfvck, from his conditioning, to sitting out 2 years, this contract, etc, etc.
I'd like to see some heat on the Rat, Shannahan, who thought he was smarter than everyone else and WASTED a third round pick on this clown, when they are now forced to rely on a 40+ yr old as a third WR. They already had Anderson, Bell, and Griffin - why bother with Clarett?
No one will even think about picking him up until he clears waivers - no one wants any piece of that contract - he'll be fortunate at this point to make someone's practice squad, but I think that's where he'll end up - Raiders are my pick.
Your feelings for/against OSU aside, the national title team was loaded with talent - more than 20 players from that team were drafted in the 2 drafts after that one - in fact, they set a record for most players drafted in the draft before this most recent one.
While Clarett did miss a number of games that season, and the pre-big 10 games were a large portion of his rushing total, he was in fact on the field in their last 2 games, which were Michigan and Miami. Do they win the title without him? No one know's, but he certainly helped that team - remember the play were he stripped the Miami DB of the ball after an interception?
OSU is no different than any other major NCAA football program - there are so many people in contact with the players away from team functions that they can't possibly hope to control everything - it's up to the players to steer clear of trouble.
I think people are focusing too much on Clarett here - but, before I forget - a 3rd round pick is not a 'late' draft pick - 3rd round picks are expected to contribute right away, even 4th rounders - perhaps not as starters, but key reserves. Clarett was STUPID for passing up guaranteed money - he wasn't being philanthropic, he was being greedy. I have to question who has made decisions for this kid in the last few years - I was ok with him challenging the NFL rule about draft eligibility, but everything he's done since then has been a clusterfvck, from his conditioning, to sitting out 2 years, this contract, etc, etc.
I'd like to see some heat on the Rat, Shannahan, who thought he was smarter than everyone else and WASTED a third round pick on this clown, when they are now forced to rely on a 40+ yr old as a third WR. They already had Anderson, Bell, and Griffin - why bother with Clarett?
No one will even think about picking him up until he clears waivers - no one wants any piece of that contract - he'll be fortunate at this point to make someone's practice squad, but I think that's where he'll end up - Raiders are my pick.
You people are ignorant. Do you even have any idea how much time he actually spent on the field that season? All you guys know are what's been spoonfed to you by ESPN. Take it from someone who lives down the street from this stuff... people were quite delighted to see him go. First of all, DEEKO, he wasn't the star back that people made him out to be. He had a few key plays, yes, but nothing more. He looked good in comparison to 2nd and 3rd string, but that's not really saying much. He had a shoulder injury that never healed, he was a baby on and off the field, and was a destructive factor to the team. I could give a crap about a few touchdowns... his negatives far outweighed the positives, and everyone around here knows that now and we knew that then.
I resent having some chump a couple hundred miles from the state line telling me what happened a few thousand yards from my doorstep 3 years ago.[/quote]
Then you should have a freaking clue about what actually happened there. Clarett played in nearly every game that year, had over 1200 yards, and was the star, period. If you don't think his stats, which were awesome BTW, prove it, then you don't know much about football.
Plus:
OSU is a dirty program, and everyone knows it.
There are many, many other things that went on with Clarett. He wasn't lying about all that stuff he said about OSU. Other players were involved, too.
There is a reason that the NCAA is after OSU right now, and you can rest assured that Clarett wasn't the only one that was involved.
MUCK FICHIGAN
First of all, people think he's the only reason Ohio State won the title game in 2002. Have you all forgotten about our bloody defense? Ohio State, year in and year out, has one of the best defensive units in the game. Our linebackers this year are easily the best in the business.
Clarett was an idiot. When he was suspended, he decided to fight the NFL on entering the draft, he loses, he doesn't keep a decent workout regiment, when he actually is drafted, he pulls his groin muscle in training camp and gets dropped. I wouldn't be surprised if he makes a comeback though. The talent is there, it's just the dedication. And with him passing up guaranteed money, maybe this will be a wakeup call.
That being said, let's look at some real OSU players this year: Michael Jenkins, Falcons WR and Mike Nugent, Jets Kicker.
First of all, people think he's the only reason Ohio State won the title game in 2002. Have you all forgotten about our bloody defense? Ohio State, year in and year out, has one of the best defensive units in the game. Our linebackers this year are easily the best in the business.
Clarett was an idiot. When he was suspended, he decided to fight the NFL on entering the draft, he loses, he doesn't keep a decent workout regiment, when he actually is drafted, he pulls his groin muscle in training camp and gets dropped. I wouldn't be surprised if he makes a comeback though. The talent is there, it's just the dedication. And with him passing up guaranteed money, maybe this will be a wakeup call.
That being said, let's look at some real OSU players this year: Michael Jenkins, Falcons WR and Mike Nugent, Jets Kicker.
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